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It's like alpha male chimps jockeying for position. 😂

Maybe I'm not attune to the social dynamics, but the way I see it, peers can disagree and call each other bullshitters without it being a big deal. It's just like saying "you're full of shit bro", and it not being an attack. But maybe I'm not attune to the dynamics. Also, this topic has gone stale. We're free to be human, lol, relax.

What do you mean by "getting used to Leo"? Please don't let the below derail from answering this question. I'm curious what you mean by "getting used to Leo". It's only natural for people to be drawn here by Leo's wisdom and to then, after years, coming to have enough experience such that one feels confident in making their own assessments. People are entitled to their own opinions and own sensemaking. Why would this make you defensive? Do you believe Leo's wisdom is so high that the likes of Unborn Tao and Carl simply can't touch it and they should just default to intellectual subservience or assume they're missing something, even after years of serious work and experience here? Leo is a human bro. He is fallible. For instance, he doesn't seem to understand the mechanics of his own narcissism. Which is fine - I discover new things about my own ignorant ego seemingly on a quarterly basis. I can tell Leo is cool as shit. Funny as hell. But that doesn't mean he knows everything about everything and that none of us can correct him. In fact, Leo would get a ton more respect if he'd open himself up to that from time to time.

No idea what that means. lol

I'll be honest - the only one I know of these is "too right", lol.

😂

Kavaris was out of line here at the end. It turned into personal attack. Cred is obviously in good faith willing to address any legit criticisms and is sticking to the subject matter.

Do you know of any techniques that would be better than Tetris right after trauma?

😂I was wondering how tf have you never heard of that? Funny how that one didn't make it to the aussies. Surely not. Surely she knows.

It's reminds me of watching a child who would otherwise be fine, start to cry because the adults think it just experienced something that warrants crying, and the adults basically manifest the crying. lol I've told my sister, no no, don't act like he should be crying now, because then he will. And of course, she acts like he should be, then he does.

They say if you play the game Tetris for 7 minutes after you've experienced trauma, your trauma will be significantly reduced. I believe this. It's largely a matter of how the mind is given opportunity to amplify the experience, whether that be through self-rumination, cultural narrative, or whatever.

Experience converts to trauma through the nervous system and narration/thought. If you experienced what would typically be thought of as traumatic as a child but your nervous system didn't experience it as traumatic, then not as much trauma occurs - but you can grow up and use story to convert the experience into trauma, and you can amplify it to such a degree you need a therapist.

Performative uncertainty.

Psychedelics effectively serving as a brainwashing and belief construction tool.

I found some of his ideas valuable and interesting but that was years ago. I remember being quite inspired by him.