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I've seen self amusement work really well on message

my strategy is trying to build skills that are high ticket, but will also propel your life purpose. Leo talks about smooth transitions in the LP course, is there a skill that you yourself need in you LP niche that you could develop and sell to other businesses? examples not intended to bias you: - perhaps you need a high speed landing page to get permaculture clients, you could go really deep on building functional websites and sell this service as a freelancer - perhaps people in your niche want to start making high quality digital products but don't have the technical skills to do it themselves. You could learn production and film and then subcontract the funnel to a digital marketer on Upwork.

@Leo Gura Ignore my PM if you see this. I want to understand how you demonise chasing money and sex as it will corrupt the mind, but these are human needs and you have already benefited from them. And also what are the alternatives?

Against community guidelines. Edit: apologies I initially misinterpreted the topic of this thread, thought it was a pro-Blackpill rant.

Finally finished the LP Course. After literal years of procrastination. My purpose is to create incredible music, that inspires people and helps them to heal.

You sound pretty young, so just general inexperience could be a cause of this. The main issue here is calibration, you’re possibly being extremely open in your communication, like you would to a close friend, but it’s causing you to air dirty laundry in the presence of someone you’re trying to attract. This is definitely not the place to do so. “I feel sick” after having sex with someone is probably the worst most offensive time to say something like this, mentioning incel and pickup ideology on a date is literally the worst time to bring up these topics - This is communicating to me you have a history of isolation and lack of friends. You haven’t exposed yourself to a lot of social situations so you have trouble ‘sensing’ in what situation to say one thing, and in what situation to say another. Remember in Leo’s getting laid video he talked about the law of state transference. Think about how you felt in your body, physically and emotionally when on these dates. Were they fun? Or were you tense and nervous? Still trying to be philosophical? But what’s awesome is you are exposing yourself to new situations, and you’re getting feedback on a self help forum - average person doesn’t do this. Keep dating, keep getting rejections, and reframe beliefs. Super important that you are working on limiting beliefs. If you have a belief that you’re low status for example, you could be using that belief to avoid meeting people “they are cool and high status, I’m a loser I shouldn’t meet them”, which would literally be stopping you from solving the problem, because the only way to elevate your status is to meet more people. Do you see what I’m saying? You could have beliefs that cause you to avoid solving your problems. what would someone have to believe to get the results you’ve described in this post?

There's a lot of high level paradigm thinking on this part of the thread. People attempting to integrate dating and socialising with their spiritual cosmology, which is fine and something I also enjoy. But if you're still rolling through Orange like myself, working through social awkwardness a negative self image, breaking out of this should feel very active. Something I have been doing lately: Me and my close friend go for a long night walk and have a conversation, much like the discussions on this forum, where we air our social problems. As soon as my friend says something that sounds like a limiting belief I invite him to deconstruct the belief. We then use Leo's limiting belief exercise that's available in the tail end of the LP Coures (I'm sure there are others equally effective out there, perhaps in an old video) to guide each other to deconstruct the belief, often discovering deeper beliefs e.g. I believed that establishing a sex life would be very difficult, grindy and hard, and discovered that this was because I believed I was not likeable.

Could holding this perspective lead to a Red and or Orange shadow?

Contemplate socialising. I came to the insight that it’s kind of futile for me to keep seeking validation when people have different value sets and therefore will validate different things. Lately I’m noticing a change in myself where if I don’t get validation, I just drop it and keep moving with the conversation e.g. I say a joke no one laughs “oh well that wasn’t funny, moving on” and being able to let that go. In the past I would just keep hammering the joke until someone acknowledged me. If you have the LP course, do the limiting belief exercise in the making it real section. My friend and I who also has the course guide each other through this exercise, you will discover layers of limiting beliefs that you need to work through. Then once you reframe that belief you can do an affirmation for 5 minutes a day, for a period of 7 days to remind your subconscious mind of the reframe. Then repeat the process - thats my strategy at least I believe it’s well informed.

Probably not as simple as “Red or Orange” simple because multiple memes can be active at once within people and collectives. However I see Red meme reflected in the porn industry is the description of Red work environments in the Spiral Dynamics book: - Red meme is incredibly lazy, it is hard to motivate people with this active meme to do anything; often people get into porn because they believe it means they don’t need to do as much labour for more money - Red employees will “put up with a lot as long as their basic needs are met often” (probably a misquote); I think “putting up with a lot” is an understatement when it comes to porn. On the other hand, I saw an interview the other day, a guy was interviewing nomads in Bali. One girl was an OF creator and her favourite part of living in Bali was the “tax benefits” she gets as an Australian. No other meme than Orange imo would give that response. But then there’s explicitly feminist/progressive porn creators out there, once I saw an interview with a pornstar who believed she was an Occultist (possibly purple), there’s that Vice episode on people who do porn that reflects their Mormon upbringing which I guess could be Orange because they are demonising Blue etc. Lots of active memes like any milieu.

@Emerald Pickup done correctly will save a man from becoming an Incel, not turn him into one.

Try find the Kino Escalation Ladder pdf on google.

Locking for low quality.

Don't make excuses. Make a budget and do things that fit into it (e.g. day game will always be free) and/or find a way to increase your income.

Watch tone here please - "Show a level of respect & humility. Demonstrate kindness, friendliness, and compassion towards fellow members." (stated in guidelines)