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I have noticed that spiritual teachers who are not enlightened (i dont care about the words you know what i mean, yes everyone is enlightened you just have to realize it ok brother) seem to push others to strive for enlightenment through practices such as meditation, awareness, self-inquiry, etc. And the spiritual teachers who are enlightened seem to push others to just feel good and live life. Why do you think this is? Is enlightenment even a choice? Do we just live life and have no say in whether we realize our enlightenment or not? and in this case is the next step to just live life feeling good, my brothers?

The near death experience idea is making sense. When you do 5 meo dmt do you feel a near death feeling? Im gonna do the hyperventilating breathing technique and get juiced, surfs up

why have you not gone to one of these serious zen masters to become enlightened?

woah never thought about baptism that way hahahah

how would one push someone to enlightenment? what would they push you to do?

I am on my computer everyday from when I wake up to when I go to sleep. I consume content and take breaks to make art. For one month I used to meditate and pray from when I woke up until I fell asleep, but near the end of the month I felt there was no point. If there is no purpose in doing anything except feeling good (if you disagree, ask yourself why you feel otherwise and whether everything you do is ultimately for the goal of feeling good), then why meditate to feel good instead of consuming content all day? I feel the same satisfaction. I feel the only reason I feel scared of consuming content is because I have the idea that it will not provide the same amount of happiness that meditation and prayer will. When comparing meditation vs computer consuming I do not feel a difference in happiness. In meditation I feel uneasy because I feel that I need to be doing something and in computer consuming I feel uneasy because I feel I am being too hedonistic.

hmm youre right. thanks for talking today

@Serotoninluv I dont believe anything outside of me can truly make me feel bad. If it does, it of my doing and not of the thing that I learned. How can something outside of you "not make you feel good. ??"

@Meditationdude If you could explain to me as well, I am open to listen

@Meditationdude I dont see how I was being arrogant. Just asking a question

@Serotoninluv Sure brother. Im down for anything

@Serotoninluv Explain to me how it goes deeper than wanting to feel good.

@Serotoninluv If you equate feeling good with pleasure then sure. What is your goal? Everyones goal is to feel good.

I was doing the meditation where you do nothing and think nothing. I would do this for 4 hours a day without distraction and outside of this I would be doing all my actions with awareness and mindfulness.

just do what you want. dont force yourself to some sort of idea of an aesthetic. I see myself in you, but I am slowly releasing myself from being a slave to manufactured aesthetic. I am 'lazy' but I dont call it that. I say im smart because I dont do stuff I dont feel like doing. this strategy has brought me the most success in my life.