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I write down loads of questions and then answer them with how I would like to be

I used to love music and it considered a large part of my life. However, situations occurred that generated negative connotations with it and I just stopped listening to it. The experience of noticing how much of a hold both the desire and the resistance had on me, was helpful in discovering the separation I was from the stories that played out in my thoughts. Now music only grabs me occasionally and I enjoy the space to be aware and question that isn't dominated by something that holds little value. Maybe my body chemistry has changed too.

I believe we are an extremely adaptable species. It only takes a few days for something to become the norm. Denial, anger, depression, acceptance, then excel. Awakening, questioning, reprogramming, application.

Hi all you fab people out there! Call me Green (living in a blue and orange drenched society), but I am struggling to see how reality is "perfect" when there is so many suggestions that we, as in life on earth, are racing towards extinction. Obviously the universe would have some minor itch if out world heated up, and maybe nature would prefer if we had our day, but it wouldn't be "perfect" for us and our ability to provide intelligence out into the universe. Just a thought....

I think our current realisation that this is possible is a true driver to develop our consciousness. I think mass extinction will just fuck it up and we will fade away. Sorry.

@winterknight's take: which is a good answer

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Hi @winterknight, whats your take on our collective unaware and irresponsible race towards extinction?

Hi all! I was strongly recommended Psychosynthesis as a much suitable topic of learning. Before I chow down on a bunch of Roberto Assagioli books, does anyone have any insights they would be willing to share with me? Thanks kindly in advance!

@VioletFlame, that was a beautiful read. You have obviously put in a lot of time into this topic! I do have a big problem with what you are all saying though. We are responsible for our actions and we have a choice. The environment and its inhabitants are subject to humans lack of responsibility. Saying it is all "perfect", even if we leave this existence as a dust bin without a consciousness to learn from it, feels like a cop-out and a wasted potential benefit. Something simple could happen that radically changes the outcome. With such divergent results concluding from so many knife edge crossroads, is one radically different outcome then called a near "perfect" reality? @outlandish have you never heard of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade @Leo Gura (or anyone else!), is, in your eyes, my dissatisfaction of humans unawareness and therefore responsibility, because I am still living through the ego led perception? Thanks you super top and up for a chin wag people!

I just started another thread with a similar question but more severe here... struggling with letting it go as a belief....

Regardless of a tour of sorts... If anyone is in Bristol and fancies a pub discussion, give me a shout.

@Bluebird I wasn't saying working for a big company was more important than a small one, I was saying it was a likely choice one might need to make. I know with my business we need the 30 people just to stay in the game. Nice idea with the side project. Might see if that is a possibility. I think I need to concentrate on when a good exit would be so I can run self-employed again. Whatever comes out of the change would likely be less productive, but that could be ok. Aim for that beautiful life. This would include spending a lot of time contemplating. Ok, so answering my question with the help of all of you… how about this? "Contemplating the side effects of being a coder" should be "Contemplating the side effects of being a full time something". With the answer of: Full time employment is a survival game, of which one should try to minimise if one is needing the time to search for Truth!

Hi all, I putting this out there to gain from your perceptions if you wish to join me. I have been a coder for quite some time. In some way it brings me fulfilment, putting things in order, progressing with the masses, providing value by creating automatable tasks and communication channels. etc... In other ways, Being so focused on purely human created expressions in the form of lexical symbols all day long seems to take me further and further away from actual reality. Away from time to experience the beauty in nature, and relationships, and other non-computer related perspectives. I know I have a choice, in that I can create a balance, but the nature of the working environment is constantly insisting us all to be specialists, to work as hard as we can and be the master of our universe. If I relax or diversify in the working environment, I no longer lead, I am no longer the creator, I am a slave. As a coder, I am less a big systems thinker, I am a tool working on the conveyor belt, as a middle manager I am a facilitator of human resources, as a director I lack hands on experiences. Maybe I just need to be self employed to be it all. Thoughts? ... Thanks in advance!

I looked at my finger and a thought told me it was there, I looked at the coffee table and a thought told me it was there I thought about my finger and another thought about my finger appeared, I thought about the coffee table and another thought about the coffee table appeared. I thought about moving my finger and a chain of actions moved my finger, I thought about moving the coffee table and a chain of action moved the coffee table Something pinched my finger and a feeling let me know something, Something scratched the coffee table and a feeling let me know something Someone ate the table when I wasn't looking and ummm that was the end of that. Someone ate my finger when I wasn't looking and ummmm it hurt a lot, I stuck another finger up his/her arsehole in revenge, and my brain had made a note to make sure people don't eat your fingers when you are not looking.... but deep down, behind the disappointment... the thing that perceived all of that in a zero dimension way was totally unaffected and was still perceiving. Someone ate me... and well it lots of feeling produced lots of thoughts during the eat and then, well, I'm not sure.... maybe my perception stopped, maybe the I stopped. maybe I was everything anyway, maybe I wasn't anything in the first place. ... frozen

Thanks all, you have been amazing!!!!! I feel very luck to have been offered such fab advise! To summarise if I may: - Be clear on what makes for a beautiful life. - Make sure the things you actually do are things you enjoy, not what society has led you to believe, if not then make some space to find it. - Make a choice because, unless you are lucky, you can't impact a lot of people without being in a big company and you can't be in a big company without being a specialist. Returning to the original question "Contemplating the side effects of being a coder", Due to what I said at the beginning of this thread, I still feel that the software development environment encourages a disconnect from the search for Truth.

... but is it? Reality is much much more complex. Coding is mostly harnessing human created tools to do human desired things. Maybe its a distraction of sorts.

haha, like it. This is an impossible question for me at the moment. A wish is a thought, Then, another thought happens, another wish. I smashed together my values, then realised that I could quite easily wake up the next morning with different ones. After reducing myself to simply an appearance in the moment, I could only answer that question with relevance to right now knowing that it is going to change again soon. The reason it is difficult question to answer right now is because I am walking the line between wanting to outwardly promote vs inwardly search. In this confusion I feel somewhat frozen and having to take a role of an observer with no wish other than to perceive and let go. Maybe before I wished we would all become more responsible and forward thinking over our actions on the environment and one another. However, going back to my thoughts on being a coder/developer/programmer, does this role contribute to this desired wish of responsibility? I don't know. But it certainly doesn't feel like it. It feels like I am in the success driven, self serving, competitive hierarchical rat race.... with a glimmer of being useful to society.

Hello you lovely people! Thought I'd put this out there while it baffles me. I am unique and constantly changing I am nothingness When pursuing experiences in the hope that something pulls me, I find myself contemplating these two statements which tends to put the breaks on. Any guidance regarding settling my discernment would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

hey @non_nothing, a coder is a computer programmer. ok, so the code I write/use is a part of actual reality, However, the point I am trying to make is that it is man made made one that is pretty primitive compared to that of nature and perception. The fact I spend soooo much time focused on this little thing which is quite far off complex systems (even though it may seem like a complex system to an outsider), I think , is quite a deception. I have no idea what my wish in life is. Maybe that is the root of the my discernment. @Caterpillar, nice words and I feel like I am heading in that direction. Just trying to avoid being a generalist too.

Yes, The confusion comes from following the 'we are all unique perception' vs following the 'we are all nothingness'.

@Nahm, the way I feel like nothing is simply through disconnection of how I perceive my thoughts/feelings other than a social construct existance playing out a mostly meaningless role. However, you are right, this is just a thought rather than an experience, but it is my best thought yet in withholding a bigger view rather than wallowing in the mud all day. @Mu_, you are right too, why not! @ajasatya, thanks for the uplifting vid! I have concluded for now that I am going to continue playing out this uniqueness because it is what I have even if I don't trust it right now. If I am a part of a much bigger vibration, then let it play. Thanks everyone and much love!

Hi @Mu_, I was showing all my high level conclusions of how to exist (or at least get over my current challenges), he said that I was thinking too rationally and that my best Idea was to experience more and let something pull me. This way I wouldn't need to think so much. He might be right and I am there is noting to lose testing this out. However.... When putting these new experiences: I am unique and constantly changing, and I am nothingness, of which I believe to be true to a greater extent, They somewhat contradict each other and I find myself confused. Am I the character I am led to believe, through all the social constructs and lessons learnt. This personal identity that may well have a unique ability and purpose. Or am I really nothing that is observing a fairy story, that could be any character with no real meaning or purpose. Hi @Nahm Could you point me at something to learn what you mean be nothingness is nonexistence and why I could be considered as essential. Many thanks! You are super stars!

The way I see it: My inherited physical makeup is unique. My experience and therefore my perception filter is unique.