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@Lyubov I think anybody who has had a remotely long relationship end, can relate to you. I come out of a one year relationship, but also used to heavily love a girl who didn't feel the same about me a couple years back. In both cases it was difficult to let go. But the first time did make me stronger in doing it the second time. Lets call this one Mary. Mary and I played and called day and night. I was obsessed with her. I could always talk so authentically and intuitively to her and she really understood me. But she didn't love me the same way. For her it was almost always just friendly. The times she did have romantic interest in me, I was too clueless to notice. I ended all contact with her in the beginning of 2023. No more calls and gaming. It's been a year and 10 months. I still think about her regularly, but I no longer miss her. She congratulated me on my birthday and asked if we could call again some time. Part of me wanted to do this of course, but I rejected this offer. I was tired of being stuck to her. Together with the council of my therapist, I rejected her offer. She said she respected my decision and wished me all the best. I was only able to do this because of the long period of no contact, focus on other parts of my life and most importantly: finding a new girl. Lets call this one Angela. Angela and I broke up around the end of June. Well... broken up... she ghosted me after travelling to her home country to visit her family. Shame how it went. I still see her from time to time, because we live in the same city. This was a real relationship and the break up really destroyed me. I went to see a therapist and sought council both from old friends as well as new people I met. Here are all the pieces of advice I heard and put to use: 1. (Old HS friend) You're free. Free to pursue any girl you want now. Go after it. Enjoy it. You're only this young one once in your life. Fuck it away. That's how I did it. Still took me a year to get over my ex, but I just tried to enjoy my life. It was shitty yes, but you deserve better. You deserve a good life. 2. (This old HS friend was the ex of the previous one, lol): I recommend just finding a girl to distract yourself with. Best way of getting over someone is just finding somebody new. That's what I heard a lot of people do and honestly what helped me too. Yeah it sucks, especially the fact that she will never be yours again. But such is life, we can't change the past. Still took me a year, but it's whatever. 3. (My bestfriend): You made a big mistake, but she wasn't necessarily flawless either. You're a young dude man. You're bound to make mistakes like these. Imagine this happened when you were married to her. You're free now, go off. Fuck all the hot girls you can find man. Enjoy life bro. Life is too short to waste on somebody who is no longer with you. 4, (Old co-worker): Break ups are always tough. Always. I still see my ex of a couple years regularly in my gym. But I'm just so used to it now. I never even deleted old pictures. Just because I feel like I don't need to now. I just kept distracting myself with others part of life. Still took me a good year. 5. Last but not least, my therapist: What you are experiencing is loss. Loss and regret. Although it may sound strange, it is very similar to losing a pet or a loved one to death. What you have to do is face reality. Feel the emotions whenever they come up, but also don't dwell on them. You have to find a balance. She is gone, accept that. Yes you will still mourn her. Waking up crying about her or not being able to function during the day because you're griefing. That's all okay. It's important to keep taking care of yourself. Keep training, eating healthy, studying, working, practicing your hobbies etc. And whenever thoughts about her, the break up, the fights or whatever come up, just remember to tell yourself this: I'm thinking about air right now. Nothing. Pure air. She's gone, why am I wasting time on this? All this to say man: find hobbies and a new girl. Plan the fuck out of your life man. I took two jobs the month after the break up AND got a new girlfriend. I decided I needed new hobbies, so I started dancing lessons and am learning languages now. It's rough as hell. Especially every time I still see her. But fuck it man. Life is way too short to spend this much energy on a person who is gone. There are two valuable spiritual lessons that this break up taught me: 1. Everything in life is impermanent: This should give you peace. For every bad time is only temporary here. 2. There is nothing new under the sun: I am no religious believer, but I do believe religious texts hold a lot of powerful messages. There was a time during my griefing process where I almost converted to Christianity. I was so emotionally touched by Jesus his teachings and his flawlessness, divinity and most importantly forgiving nature. I didn't end up converting, but did vow to incorporate his strengths. I decided I wanted to be forgiving, compassionate, open-minded and resilient. For there truly is nothing new under the sun. You have loved this much before, so it only makes sense that you can do it again. I wish you the best man. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.
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This thread is getting incredibly crowded. My question is answered. I know what I must do. @NoSelfSelf @Carl-Richard or any other mod, could you please be so kind as to lock this thread for me.
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In the Huberman Lab podcast with Martha Beck, Beck discussed something profound which I think opened my mind for something new. She talked about the "Perfect Relationship Visualization", where you try to sit still for a couple of minutes and imagine what a perfect relationship for YOU would look like. You're supposed to let the mind wander and not judge what comes up. For me what came up is me having multiple girlfriends. And they all knew of it. Polygamy basically. I imagined speficially a girl with black hair and white skin and a girl with more brunette features, so tinted skin and brown hair. As I was listening to the podcast and doing the exercise (Beck was guiding it) I felt strange and weirded out a bit. But it was only after the exercise that I realized it wasn't that weird. Beck herself is in a relationship with I believe one woman and one man. Or was it two women? Either way, this is how she discovered she had a "weird" perfect relationship. So now I want it too but obviously that is easier said than done. I currently have one girlfriend, but am planning to tell her about this urge of mine. In the visualization, all parties involved were happy and accepting of one another, so I cannot move forwards with her if she doesn't want it. With that said, even if she agrees, how does one find a girl who's willing to enter a relationship like that? What amount of game do I need to pull this off? Attracting individual girls is not difficult for me, I have even had girls ask for my number or ask me out, but requesting something like this is rather atypical. Any advice?
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@RendHeaven By far the most useful post that came from this whole thread. Thank you so much. for now I know what I must do.
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@Princess Arabia I knew it! There's also men who go willingly into this type of stuff as well! Plenty of examples online where there's one girl and multiple guys in a relationship.
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@Leo Gura I feel like if you try to establish it from day one, she will just get up and leave. Whereas if you try to tell a girl you've been seeing for a while, she's more inclined to hear you out. Would definitely help if the girl is bisexual herself. The only reason this idea came up to my my mind is because my current gf mentioned how she'd be willing to have a threesome with another girl if it made me happier.
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@ricachica I believe it was after, usually Huberman provides timestamps in the description so you can check those out. @Godhead I don't think you quite understand what I am saying here. In my "perfect relationship" there is no "one" girl that can fulfil me, there's two. Regardless of how beautiful and funny and whatever a girl is, her alone could never fulfil me. I feel like for me, like for Beck in the podcast and countless of famous people, I need to be romantically involved with multiple people. Obviously I haven't tested this so I'm speaking in speculation, but that's my perspective on it basically. @Hojo Thanks for the heads up, I am very aware of this. I just feel like the one thing I had missing from past relationships and even my current one is another girl. Maybe I am dead wrong and no amount of partners in a relationship can fulfil me, but I am willing to bet my current relationship to find out because otherwise I'll end up like another guy who posted here. Who got married only to realise he also has this preference.
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@Jannes To each their own man, I personally wouldn't want to be on earth any longer if this happened to me. I wouldn't want to learn to deal with it either. Then again, I can see the appeal for some people.
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Okay, excuse my very zoomer view on this, but Destiny and Sneako come to mind. Destiny was (and still is I believe?) an advocate for this. The way he explained it, both monogamous and polyamorous relationships break up often. One is not necessary better than the other, just a matter of preference. He preferred to keep his options sexually open and so did his partner. For them it worked out, until they got divoced in 2023. But Sneako... man where do I start. So this guy basically went to an orgy where couples go to hook up with other couples. So Sneako went with his girl and basically every man there was all over her. Eventually she was fucking one dude while Sneako had sex with the girl of said dude. I will link the clip here where he explains it, but my god that gave me a terrible feel in my stomach. Regardless of how much people hate him, I truly wouldn't wish that on him or anyone. To see with your own eyes your girl getting plowed and share that with the world too? One last thing that comes to mind is pornstars. Specifically Johnny Sins. I'm guessing most of the people know him, whether by name or by his career But as a pornstar dating another pornstar, hooking up with other people is like a job. It gets them their bread. They still love each other, despite having plenty of sex with other people. Honestly this seems like the only positive example I can think of this. Where sex is so regular it doesn't concern both of you. Having multiple sex partners is like having a lot of friends. They're great and they love them, but they would always return to each other in the end. I can respect that.
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@Schizophonia I suppose calling me slightly manic is a form of advice. I'm guessing you're saying with it that I should seek help? Fair enough I suppose.
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One final anecdote I will give is something I heard on the tram once. As I was sitting there on my way to uni, I heard a guy and a girl talk about how the guy had found himself in a relationship with 2 girls. He first had a bi girlfriend who liked the idea of a threesome with another girl. So they did said threesome. All three parties liked it so much that they proceeded to do it several times. At some point they all came to an agreement that it was more than just sex and decided to stay together. Now how true this is and how long something like this would last I'll leave up to you guys to decide. But it just so happens that my current girlfriend is open for a threesome as well. @Schizophonia Sure I'll take the psychoanalysis from a random forum member lol
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@Alex4 The point of the exercise is to follow with what your heart wants, and my heart wants this. I think we all know by now that humans are not rational beings. Me personally I don't sit around and weigh pros and cons when thinking about my perfect relationship. I'm just surrounded by two women who I love, love me and each other. It's not about what's practical and what costs less effort. Cause if that's the only concern, you could make a good case that being single is much less stress inducing than having a wife and potential children.
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@Tenebroso I have read and heard a lot about this. There's plenty of men out there, both wealthy and not, which live in insane amounts of sexual abundance. Not even necessarily through being a cult leader or clubbing. Bob Marley comes to mind. It was well-known within his whole family that he consistently cheated on his wife with multiple other women. The guy had 8 other children with 8 other women besides his wife. Now granted, she did go behind his back as well, which could be explained as revenge. Hence why I don't want to fall into the same trap as him. Unlike him I could never father children of my wife which she got from sleeping with other men. Less promiscious example would be Einstein. The guy married his cousin after continious flirtations with her while being married. During both his marriages he had continious affairs with other women. His now new wife's daughter used to have a boyfriend who was known to sleep with daughter-mother couples. Meaning he would find a girl, sleep with her, then proceed to sleep with the girl's mom as well. I have no clue what amount of game one would need to pull something like that off.
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@Godhead @Keryo Koffa I thought I was clear that during the visualization it was just me and two other girls. I don't think I ever once mentioned it being open on anyone's side. @Sugarcoat Lol no I don't really have the time to daydream when I'm busy with other endeavours in my life. I used to be a more visual person when I didn't have a lot going on for myself. Like having a gf, a job, going to school, working out etc. @Adrian colby See this is what I am trying to avoid with my life. I want to explore being in a relationship with multiple girls, because once I marry with someone (or multiple someones) I want that to be final. No regrets.
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@Leo Gura If it has been done before, it can be done again
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@Jannes There you raise a proper concern. I can imagine it being much more difficult to manage the needs of two people rather than just one. With that said, the only way I can learn how to do that is when I have experience in being in a relationship with two people. I guess a good amount of monogamous relationships can help with preparation, but like everything else the best way to learn something is through direct experience imo.
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@LSD-Rumi You're right. I was easily seduced and can understand something similarily impulsive happening to her at the time. I tried to work on it, but unfortunately she found ghosting me to be better. Sometimes shit hits the fan and there's not much you can do about it. @LSD-Rumi I must say I had been thinking of this too. My ex even offered to continue in an open-relationship, but only open on my end. Still, I feel like it would just be wrong in some primal way. Like it's just not SUPPOSED to be that way. I would feel bad everytime I made use of the agreement, same way I felt terrible after I cheated on her. I don't think I could do it.
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I cheated on my girlfriend while on holiday and deeply regret. I called her immediately after and confessed, to which she obviously cried and was very angry. Next couple of days she kept texting me to come back earlier cause she felt lonely and I rescheduled my ticket to come. But then she just blocked me. Everywhere. Since she forgot to log out of her e-mail on my iPad, I could see that she installed Tinder. Before she blocked me on WhatsApp, she shared a story in the middle of the night in some random place talking about an Uber. I even saw she ordered food to this random place in the middle of the night. Ever since I have been completely broken. When I came back and asked her like 3 times about it, she finally confessed to having cheated on me. It took her 2 extra days to confess it was out of revenge. She cheated on me with a guy she spoke for one day on Tinder. He was 10 years older than her. They did molly together and after the trip fucked, at like 4 AM. She said he helped her talk about everything that happened. But I'm not stupid. I know a shoulder to cry on, becomes a dick to ride on. And that was his full intention. She claims she regrets doing it, but it helped her accept what happened and changed her life. She goes out a lot more now, tries to make new friends, loves techno music all of a sudden, wants to go raving (while on drugs) and is even willing to give our relationship a try again. The problem for me is that I feel too much. I love her too much. And I feel like I lost her. Thinking about her cheating on me makes me angry. Absolutely sick to my stomach. The fact I had to drag it out of her makes me despise her. I regret what I did, but I immediately confessed. I offered her to just break up, but instead she wanted "space" and proceeded to cheat on me in return. I fucking hate her. I talked to many friends I know and they all agreed that whatever I did was wrong, but she stooped down to my level. She made whatever was fixable, infinitely worse. She could have just moved on, broken up and THEN do what she wanted to do with him. But I feel like she likes to keep me around. When I told my mom what she did, she was devastated and very pissed at her. We currently all live in my mom's house. What I find funny is that, from all this the only thing that bothers my ex (we're still trying to work on our relationship, so maybe girlfriend?) is that I told my mom what she did. That I told my mom she did drugs and cheated on me in revenge. Not how I feel, not how fucked up it was, not how she could have avoided this if she told me straightaway "I don't want to see you again" and then proceed to live her life. But whatever. Ever since I have been in constant fight-or-flight. My heart is in my throat 24/7. I keep thinking of harming and offing myself. My loneliness has increased significantly. She was my closest friend, only friend really, for so long. If she leaves, and she leaves on the 1st of July to her new apartment, I don't think I will have many days left. I sought help and am seeing a doctor today, but I'll be a honest a part of me has already given up. As I said, currently we're still trying to make it work. But there's no intimacy besides brief kisses, cause it's too much for her. Despite her saying she loves me and wants this to work, she doesn't feel like my girl anymore. I loved her so much and deeply regret what I did, but after what she did the innocent image I had of her shattered. I could never call her family my family, because they all agreed that whatever she did was justified. It wasn't right they claim, but in the moment it was justified. I have never felt this many emotions at the same time. The only thing that brought me a little bit of peace is Mooji. His guided meditations regarding Pure Awareness helped me a little bit, but I'm struggling to concentrate when I'm feeling and thinking all these things. I really wish and am trying to distinguish my identity from these thoughts and feelings. I want to reach enlightenment so this no longer bothers me. But everytime I meditate it comes up every 5 seconds and I can't stay present after the x amount of times it comes up. I'm trying to go out more, finishing the LP course and meditating whenever it comes up, but my life feels like a trainwreck. I have no LP, am switching majors in uni for the second time, found an average waiter job at a sushi restaurant and just train everyday. Now the girl of my life is gone, I feel like there's no point. I feel like I have nothing to live for. Nothing to look out for. I feel like I found love too early. Sex I can get anywhere, but the pure innocent love we had will always be ingrained in me. I will always think of this I feel like and it's torture. Pure torture. I look at porn and can only think of that guy fucking my girl in the way they do in those videos. I go outside and everywhere I went with her in the past reminds me of her. She's staying IN MY CITY. My damn city is now cursed. Even if we break up, I'll probably still run into her. I don't want to see her from a distance having another man. I wouldn't want to see her at all. Any advice is welcome. I'm having major urges to cut myself and jump off a bridge. I'm thinking of doing one last psychedelic before I decide to continue with those plans, either DMT or 2CB. Just to finally understand what you guys mean with God and Love etc. But anyway, tnx in advance for responding.
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@Javfly33 I have been realizing this more and more with the help of therapy, Leo's videos and just introspection. I feel like a dodged a bullet indeed. Just imagine this happened during a steady 10 year marriage with three kids. I think I can grow a ton from this whole experience. @LordFall Thank you so much for the encouraging words. I believe you're right. My identity regarding her and being with her died. I experienced this in very much real-time, consciously, during times of mental breakdown. At the end, the ego is a defence mechanism. And it failed to protect me. I have decided to not take any more drugs for the foreseeable future. I tried edibles with my best friend and proceeded to cry my eyes out. Also, I don't think I could ever do MDMA, since it would always remind me of how she did it with that dude.
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@Princess Arabia Your input is very welcome at least to me. I posted on here to hear differing perspectives, so not only what other men had to say. @Paradoxed I must tell you that you're grossly overgeneralizing the situation. I never claimed to have achieved True Love or God or whatever. I never claimed I had it all figured out nor that what I did was right. Understanding and accepting why she did what she did I can do now thank goodness. She was insecure, afraid, alone and needed a shoulder to cry on. Such is life, not much I can do about it. But in my eyes it will never be right, the same way me cheating on her could never be right. "Besmirching her reputation" she truly did this to herself. No one forced her to do what she did. You don't see me crying about her telling other people I cheated. She told me how she had been meeting people at bars and I should be cautious of them, since she told them what I did to her. That she told her friends and family (whom I all met btw). I have never cared less about something in my life to be quite frank. If you let your life be controlled by the opinions of others you'll live a miserable life. People I have never met or never will meet again anyway I truly don't care about. If the roles were reversed, and I lived in her house and she told her parents what I did, my only regret would have been that I couldn't tell them myself.
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@tlowedajuicemayne You're right about all this. At the end, it was a selfish act and I acted selfishly afterwards. What I learnt to realise is that at the end, this caused suffering for us both. Nobody gained from this. Even if she cheated and hurt me, just knowing I did it first makes me feel content with the probably equal or even more suffering she is enduring. I do want to point out that I never acted like it wasn't a big deal. Unlike her NOT confessing or apologizing from the get go, the second I got home I apologized and asked for forgiveness. I'm not stupid man, I know what I did was wrong. I told her I would seek therapy (I did) and that ONLY if she wants to continue, I would put all my effort into rebuilding trust. She proceeded to tell me several times in the following weeks that she already forgave me for what I did. Hence why I never hammered on it to her. I got the memo, they're thoughts and feelings she'd rather not think about. @tlowedajuicemayne This is quite literally what happened though lmao. She talked about how they just laid in bed and talked for hours while on MDMA. How the drug and him helped her put things in perspective and make her feel much better. The guy is 28, lives alone, swipes Tinder for easy sex and gave her and me chlamydia. I think we can all see the game he was playing and has probably been playing for a while. I never claimed I subscribed to that ideology nor that I think women are supposed to take it while men can cheat around. Don't put words in my mouth. I'm not "red-pilled", in my eyes cheating is just wrong regardless. @tlowedajuicemayne Brother, obviously my mom knew. My mom knew everything. She was pissed at me first and told me to beg for forgiveness once I got back. My mom didn't know about her cheating until I landed first, drummed it out of my ex and told my mom via videocall. Besides, what's wrong with telling somebody they did something as horrible as that anyway? I thought this was about responsibility, now we're supposed to protect her from reality? I got nothing to hide, I confessed from the get go. My ex reacted the same way as you so I'll tell her what I told you: if you're ashamed of it, you shouldn't have done it. Own what you did. Grow some balls and face reality. This is something you did. OWN it. Clearly she was ashamed, hence the reluctance to tell me. Sounds like a her-problem. I'm not going to sit there with all these thoughts and emotions, and then when somebody close to me asks what's wrong just say "oh nothing" or "sorry can't tell". You're right in the second part. I haven't been doing spiritual work in a bit, mostly because the relationship consumed so much of my time. We spent all day everyday together and that wasn't healthy. Now that she's gone, I'm slowly incorporating old habits back into my life. As a matter of fact, I feel like recently self-inquiry has been going really well. I guess this killed a part of my ego that needed to die. I'm still young and am bound to make mistakes, but I feel like right now I am on a healing path. @tlowedajuicemayne I am not trying to insult or flame you, but clearly the lack of knowledge about the situation makes you say things that are false. Clearly she felt some pain from the few times I did see her let out tears. The way she explained it, her brain just shuts down during times of trauma. She becomes cold, non-reactive and distant. This is why any efforts I made in rebuilding trust didn't work. Despite all my rage and suicidal thoughts, believe it or not I tried multiple times to hang out with her, go on dates, idk live life again with her. But she was very reluctant, found new friends she'd rather spend time with and would only occassionally let out her true feelings when the relationship threatened to end. For example this one time after yet another failed day of spending time with her, we were leaving a festival when she told me she no longer respects me as a man and therefore doesn't think the relationship could continue. Surprisingly, it was one of the best things I had heard. The few weeks before were painstakingly difficult because she was just so cold and boring. So now that I was released, I told her simply that I respected her decision, think she's right that this won't work and that we should move on. Only then did she proceed to cry, beg me to not leave her and hug me for the first time in a while. For a glimpse she let out her true thoughts and feelings and I felt like things could work again. This same thing happened the night before she left to Poland. Relationship threatened to end, she feels afraid, cries, we reconcile and all looks good again. Now I think back to it, honestly her just unfollowing me is a fitting end to a dumb relationship like that. @tlowedajuicemayne You're right. I stabbed and got stabbed back. The reason I felt like mentioning that is because, in my opinion, it makes a girl a slut. I wouldn't want to be with a girl who hooks up with her first swipe on Tinder. I'm currently seeing a girl who was a virgin before she met me, and I must say I like it better. This is all subjective obviously, just my personal opinion. Even a good friend of mine who is a girl told me how getting dick that fast on Tinder is not that easy. "Like just in a couple days you say? I think she had been talking to him behind your back for longer". I will never know the truth about this but it doesn't matter. I mentioned it as a way of downplaying my own actions and belittling her. Not the most responsible thing, I know, but that's why I mentioned it. Only now I realise, it doesn't matter at all. It happened, so is life, move on. The whole "living life according to principles" is what my therapist told me as well and I am really trying that now. Still finding a lot of difficulty with it, since I don't always understand it let alone derive the pleasure from it that it's supposed to give you. But I will keep trying that. Thanks for your post. I appreciate you being tough on me.
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Alright it's been a while and some people decided to revive this thread so I'll try to respond to them. First I'll provide some context before I respond: Before she moved out she went to her home country of Poland. Actually the last few days before she left, things seemed to go well. We got a bit more intimate and we wanted to videocall while she was gone. Couple days pass. I get home late from work and ask her if she still wants to call. No response. Surely, this girl is just tired from her travelling and is just sleeping right? Next morning, I check WhatsApp and no response. I check my socials and see she has unfollowed me everywhere. I guess that's the end of this relationship. I literally saw a therapist a day after this so I worked through some stuff already. It turns out that she gave me chlamydia as well. From her clearly unprotected sex with the dude she claimed she only had protected sex with. Such a nice person. And to top it all, I saw her a couple of times in my gym, but she made no effort to talk so I didn't bother either. Safe to say therapy helped me a lot with both calming down, recognizing my own emotions and learning how to go further in life. Together with videos from HealthyGamerGG I tried to use Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) to soften on the anger and depression. I kept telling myself that I'm but a person who has setbacks, not one who gives up. That's this is just the way life goes sometimes. The only permanence is impermanence as Leo said in one of his videos. Instead of latching on, I decided I want to let go. This hate has given me no good. I'm still young, bound to make tons of mistakes, it's just part of life. Where one door closes, another opens. In the end, we only lose what we cling to.
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Hello everyone. I come to you regarding the question of whether or not you would recommend sleeping around. I just turned 20 years old and am now single. I'm currently seeing a girl, but as we men tend to do I get urges. She's a virgin herself and, like most women, wants a stable relationship. I don't want to deceive this girl, especially given the fact that if I were to use her for her body I would quite literally ruin sex for her. Yet, I have to be honest and say I have urges to sleep around. People always tell me to have fun while I'm still young. Especially recently I've noticed how pick up and cold approaching has become so much easier for me. Hell, girls started approaching me. They flirt with and tease me, without my initiative. Something I could only dream of back when I was a teenager. I don't respond to these attempts because of the girl I'm seeing, but she is leaving soon for a month and honestly I just want to fuck. With that primal urge of mine expressed, obviously I know the health dangers that come with that. Besides that though, I know the stigma around it and how damaging it can be to one's self-image, self-esteem and dignity if they just give their body away mindlessly. There's a reason Leo put it in his Top 250 Traps video after all. It also just intuitively doesn't sound right to me. I was raised religious (Islam) but I have given up those beliefs. Yet, I feel like religion nailed that part pretty well. Maybe don't save yourself all the way till marriage, but sleeping around shouldn't be a habit. So I ask you: what are your thoughts on sleeping around? Would you say it's best to enjoy life that way while you can? Or do you like settling for committed relationships more? Why so? And how about one night stands? I have had only one so far and it was pretty mediocre. I mean I enjoyed it, but in my mind I hyped it up so much that it could never meet those expectations. It was my first time picking a girl up from a club and bringing her back to my hotel, so I was already way too excited. Once it came down to it however, I found it okay. Not something I would consider actively pursuing now, given that I have had better sex with exes of mine.
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@Paradoxed Not really at all. We’ve been seeing each other for a couple of weeks now. Good news though, she’s no longer a virgin She’s very cute and innocent. Honestly I’m surprised somebody of my age has done literally nothing yet so far. I like her, but love will take time to develop. I feel like it’d be a waste to discard her just for a lot of cheap sex. Yet at the same time, the attention I’ve been getting from other women does have an effect on me.