
Consilience
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Whoa never made that connection haha. You asked about courses above. Im currently working through “The 5 Principles” course by The Natural Lifestyles which is all about approaching and seducing women, it’s EXTREMELY profound stuff. Unfortunately, I haven't started actually applying it yet because of COVID, but thinking about my past interactions with women over the years, the material lines up with my successes and failures quite nicely. They also have a lot of in field breakdowns on their youtube channel, as well as in the course, which shows they actually aren’t bs’ing. It easily starts getting into stage yellow SD seduction. Not sure if the course is still open but if it is, it’s well worth the investment.
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Consilience replied to Harmony342's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
For some it’s a fad, for others it radically transforms their lives. -
Consilience replied to lostmedstudent's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ive had horrible headaches from mushroom trips. Ive found that over hydrating myself the day before the trip has eliminated the headaches. Also mushroom tea is always more likely to create headaches vs. just eating the fungus straight. Plus with eating the trips last longer which can be a plus. -
@Space I appreciate it, thank you. However right now I'm not doing retention, just obstaining from Porn. I found retention to be too much at this moment in my life.I think I'll go back on it eventually, at least short term bursts like 1-3 weeks or something, but the energy gets to be too much. And if I tried having sex while on retention, I wouldn't last long at all. Day 27 - No Porn/No PMO Day 18 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Didn't log last night. Didn't watch porn, but stayed up too late. I stayed up too late tonight as well.. Today felt off. I've felt mildly depressed, but it's not the biggest of deals. Even when I'm feeling depressed it really doesn't bother me as much as it used to. I think the biggest thing is just feeling really stuck in life because of my loans. I'm genuinely not sure what to do.
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Consilience replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Gesundheit That’s just like, your opinion, man. -
Consilience replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Im not sure why your mind is so stuck in this story that beauty is a delusion. All I can say is the deeper I go into this work, the more beautiful everything becomes. The mind is the filter which blocks out the intrinsic beauty of actuality, of being, of reality. The less the mind interferes with direct experience, the more beautiful life becomes. If you dont see this, that’s fine. But I would remain open minded to the possibility that you are deluding yourself. You could easily say that to what Im saying, and I concede self deception is always possible. However what makes this pov powerful for me is that beauty wasn't something I was trying to get out of this work. It naturally arose without any effort or preconceived ideas that it should or shouldn’t. Yet notice your perspective has aligned itself with this “it shouldn’t arise” camp. It seems you’ve made a decision before exploring the work fully. If for whatever reason you have gone very deeply in this work and still haven’t started to have glimpses into Absolute Beauty, I would say it’s probably because your awakenings are very intellectual and mind oriented. -
Consilience replied to Aaron p's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
*facepalm* Still lost in your story that beauty is an illusion eh? Sorry to hear it -
There’s something much more powerful and direct about analyzing states of consciousness than analyzing zelda but yeah I understand all of this already. It sounds like we use psychedelics very differently. That’s fine.
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Day 25 - No Porn/No PMO Day 18 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Today I felt like I was in a non-dual state nearly the entire day, like I had taken a psychedelic except without all the fireworks. The deeper into consciousness work I go, the more the idea of enlightenment slips away.
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Thank you for the input man. It just feels like when I watch porn I can't find the balance. I've tried doing it once a week and have without fail gone to multiple times a week which then leaves me feeling energetically drained and zombified. This experiment is more about trying to understand what a life would be like without indulging in the one vice that's been apart of my life since I was 12. I'm 24 now, which means half my life has been spent having this one stimulus drilled into my mind. I have no context for what life would be like without it. And while you're 100% correct with what you're saying here, I also know that porn is a powerful stimulus which leaves effects in the mind difficult to articulate other than I feel more "off" when I consume it and more "on" when I don't. Plus this is also an experiment in integrity. If I say I want to quit, what makes it so difficult to follow through with that promise to myself? Again, thank you for sharing.
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Nothing and everything. Im just pointing out that my mind starts losing the ability to think linearly, past and future break down, the subjective meaning entangled with words breaks down, and thus the ability to have what we may otherwise consider coherent thoughts is completely gone on 3.5g of mushrooms. All of this is a tiny fraction of how subjectivity has altered on psychedelics. Thus the idea of doing a job interview tripping on 10g of mushrooms seems impossible. On 10g of mushrooms the idea of jobs, interviews, language, self and other would be completely obliterated. I think of the most effective ways of analyzing perspectives, in this case psychedelic trips, is to become very clear on both the differences and similarities between that state and the sober state. Falling into “it’s all one state, there is no difference if you concentrate on god” may be true from a certain pov, but it’s also a limited and partial perspective if we’re concerned with the highest tier of understanding psychedelics, sobriety, and more generally states of consciousness.
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Not in my experience. Quite literally the way form, specifically form we could label as “mind” is operating in an entirely novel way under doses this high. Yes the mechanism of interpretation has changed, but so too has the subject of interpretation and the tool doing the interpretation. But hey Im open to the possibilities you’re citing, they’re just very far from what I can relate to.
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@electroBeam I dont see how your claim is possible. 3.5g of mushrooms and my mind has literally melted. The ability to even speak english is gone. The truth between sobriety and tripping (God) hasnt changed at all, but form and the way it interacts with itself has completely and utterly altered.
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Consilience replied to Knowledge's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Direct experience is literally all you have. Like... there’s NOTHING else. -
Day 24 - No Porn/No PMO Day 17 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat
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Consilience replied to Angelo D's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Never understood this one. The more I meditate the more beautiful everything becomes... was not my intention when I began the practice. -
Day 23 - No Porn/No PMO Day 16 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Not much I feel like saying tonight.
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Day 22 - No Porn/No PMO Day 15 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat This isn't on my counter at the moment, but I've been really consistent with my hatha yoga practice recently. I've actually more or less stopped my traditional workouts and switched to only yoga, walks, and hiking. In terms of health, this is actually the best I've felt in months. Sometimes i'll still wake up and feel like shit, lethargic and lacking that extra edge that I think most normal healthy adults have after a normal night's rest, but overall I'm having more good days than bad since shifting more of my focus to yoga. What's more interesting though is the effect this practice is having on the mind... I can't quite articulate how this practice is rewiring the mind, other than to say I feel subtle differences in my emotional state, as well as a very faint shift in the background energy of "me." One thing meditation has really given is this incredibly perceptive awareness of the mind. The experience of mind doesn't really fit well into language though. The energy of the mind is more like an oscillating wave that glosses over raw empty perception and breathes meaning into the world. It feels like yoga is changing the current and wave like structures of the mind, but the specifics are still unknown other than I can tell something is shifting internally. As has been a theme since starting this journal, I plan to patiently wait and see what arises. On a side note, I was very proud of myself today. The yoga sessions I've been doing lately from the YT Channel called "Breathe and Flow" are quite challenging compared to what I'm used to, but I've kept up with it. Today in particular I felt a lot of resistance towards doing the practice, but I did it anyways.
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If you are truly self realized, these wild experiences will not touch the self. Psychedelics can be a great litmus test to see just how awake you really are. How can one claim to know the self if aliens and wild experiences are still shaking them to their core?
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Day 21 - No Porn/No PMO Day 14 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Building some momentum. Have to say though, I miss porn haha. I 100% feel better without it and it's not worth the emotional/mental haze that follows a solid porn/pmo session, but I do miss the stimulus. Pure hedonism.
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Day 20 - No Porn/No PMO Day 13 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Keeping the bed timer at 13. Last night I actually stayed up a little later last night.
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Day 19 - No Porn/No PMO Day 13 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat I didn't realize I didn't journal yesterday... Weird. Anyways, I met those two goals yesterday and now I am for today as well.
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Interesting. Meditation has gotten me farther than Kriya yoga or mantra. I think it just depends on the person. @Anon212 If you've been going hard at self inquiry, this would be a perfect time to crack open the mind with psychedelics imo. The increase in Self Inquiry would act as a primer to really dive deeply into a psychedelic trip. Keep up the self inquiry even while tripping and you'll most likely have a breakthrough.
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In my direct experience they are one in the same. True God Consciousness is independent of state. Sober, tripping, drunk, high, caffeinated, doesn't matter. If Shunyamurti is enlightened he knows this. If Shunyamurti is teaching about chasing states, then yes sober God Consciousness is different than tripping God Consciousness.
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Day 17 - No Porn/No PMO Day 11 - Bed by 10pm Sun-Thur/ Bed by 11pm Fri-Sat Today was a good day. I slept through an alarm and was almost late for a meeting so I missed my normal 1 hour morning meditation. However, after work I did a 30 min yoga session which was fucking crazy, and then was able to realize my deepest rooted authentic desire was to get the hour in even though my conscious desire was to go distract myself with high dopamine yielding activities. So I did the meditation. Had a few minor breakthroughs as well. Sometimes It feels like meditation is moving the equivalent of tectonic plates in the mind. The day to day shifts are barely noticeable if at all and then one day WHAM, earthquake, you have a massive breakthrough or emotional release. The Yoga video for those interested: