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God no please dont do that. My friend when he was in his 20's meditated 24 hrs straight because he believed it would help him attain enlightenment. He did this a few times and he has had bad knee's ever since. This is not a joke, dont meditate more then a few hours a time tops, unless you've worked you way up to it for years. Don't even start with more then a hour tops a day for the most part, some exceptions, but just dont, not worth the turmoils you can kick off.

I see. Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you got what you needed to hear.

In regards to your whole conversation with GeoLura, I think what your advising may not be useful for some, even if it holds truth for say 50% (arbitrary number) of people. If someone is a alcoholic or a drug addict, I'd be very hesitant in sharing your idea's as a solution to their current situation. Maybe I'm wrong but some effort perspective I feel would go a longer way for them in the critical point that they are at.

Don't get lost in idea of "now" moments either. This can be just a seeking of some experiential idea you have of what the moment looks like. keep going back to the recognition you had.....anything thats going on at all times no matter the apparent "now moment" is infinite intelligence unfolding. This may be a hard process, because at some point, you'll start shedding your identity and this transformation process can be a shit show inside, so be prepared, but dont expect it either, for some its easy.

I like something about your question but I'm not exactly sure what your asking. Are you asking how transnational thinking sees certain things? Or the language that would be used? Or both? From my own evolving experience I've landed on new words or metaphors that seem to do perhaps better jobs of getting a point across. For example I just learned the definition of Atonal from a producer friend describing a piece I really didn't like. It then hit me that Atonal is a great way to describe many things in my life experience I couldn't find better words for. Perhaps I'm putting my own spin on this word, but my Atonal life is like events and learning story pieces of god happenings that sculpt and mold new functions and perceptions of being and seeing. They arise without warning sometimes and no context, ending, sometimes but not always, with a understanding of a why. Free will disappears and happening happens, with moments of free will being felt as a real things sculpting a situation into conscious reality (like being aware of a context to a situation like my wife is upset about something and in that moment a choice appears that can take the situation one way or another, knowing full well that one will have immediate reactions or the other will create understanding hopefully and no conflict....basic things). Perhaps its rationality returning in spurts, staying linear for unknown periods, wooshing unexpectedly into transnational experience. As I write this I can see perhaps more into your question and is there a language that is possibly better suited for these types of phases. So far language has been good enough....hmm have the mull that one some more. But Atonal is in general a good way I think to describe life, and perhaps it fits into a transpersonal field of thinking (I'm not sure exactly where rational ends and trans begins in kens slicing of reality). Life is not linear always or often, things plop into existence (a great phrase from Alan Watts), all is one and not everything has a destiny, but some things do, expectations area constantly being shattered, things run smoothly sometimes for years on end, tragedies happen, regression feels like it happens, nothing can make sense..... atonal......... this word feels like a great description for a thing called life. Although you could argue that atonal is only from the standpoint of rational thinking, and that transnational recognizes this as the norm and actual, but I'd one up this (jokingly) and say there is no actual experience that is actual and that all experience is just that, one of the infinity possibilities of god/infinity happening and playing out....

There are many angles where this can be approached from but since "how to be wise" went at it from the angle she did, I'll just piggy back that approach and build on it to help you. Have you ever wondered where your thoughts, idea's and feelings about stuff come from? Or do you assume you did them or have them? Things may arise of their own accord/design more then you assume. What you call you and yours may be apart of something grander at work. It wasn't long ago that the greeks I believe had this idea about being vessels for muses for gods/creativity itself. Some of the big thinkers/artists didn't assume they had ideas of ones own creation, these idea's/gifts/new thoughts were graces of something bigger than them, creating something new through them and into the world.. You may not be what you think you are and how things all fall into place may not be what you think as well, and thats a start to breaking the veil into a new seeing.... I'm pretty sure its safe to say that seeing will remain, but this idea of "you" is the big question here, and probably has more layers then you've currently realized. If you've never watched Alan Watts, look him up on youtube, hes got a big view and a great way of getting to your question. He was once a philosopher at Oxford and a fairly experienced zen monk.

I dont know you well enough to give you self reflection, but if your like most people on this forum, including myself, you probably think you know more then you do, you probably take positions that are partially true and are argued that they are the full truth and I've been called cold hearted as well and it boiled down to seeing humans from a vantage point of me seeing myself as free and the person talking to me about their suffering as though it was just coming from a place of illusion. There for I didn't have much empathy for them (where as now having gained more understanding, I can see both my original vantage point but realized that their suffering is suffering, a suffering of a life).

I see, sounds like that is something you still have to work out with her and yourself.

I see, Is it your experience now that there is no future or past or is it just a belief at this point? Also whats changed since your enlightening moment that makes you feel like you lost it? Wouldn't your experience now be of the infinite intelligence happening as what ever is taking place in the now believed/felt experience of loosing it? How could the actuality of the recognition not be happening?

Your getting a lot of good pointers here. Let me ask you this, what did you realize in those 10 seconds? Did you realize the definition that you gave joseph maynor? IFFFF so, then isn't all that is currently happening now and in all future and past moments that infinity wether your having that direct "enlightening moment". If your experience was not the definition you gave, what was it exactly, I may be able to speak to that....

Can you confront the situation with your dad in a sane way or will it become abusive? If its a dead end path that you've tried to rectify over time with no result, its sometimes the best choice to move out on your own, that alone can change some of the things your depressed about as long as you believe you did the right thing, because if you don't you may live with guilt then. Negative environments can create and feed depression, and I know on a more absolute level you can see your role in it, but there is a environmental role to these things to outside of choice. I understand why you would want to bring your mom with you, she's suffering to under this situation to probably. Can you have a heart to heart with your mom on these matters without your dads knowledge so you can come to a good decision on these matters for the both of you so you can have peace making a choice?

Thats also a very good point, but its also true that you can keep on loving blue and red and they remain destructive in some area's and maybe its best to let blue and red be over there and not in a discussion of a particular nature that is gonna trigger them or that they will unconsciously turn into a aggressive debate. Man that sounds higher then though, but it is so not, haha. All that said, I dont see in red blue actually, but I get the metaphor and perhaps its best up to a point to love and guide and point, but then when the hand that your helping keeps lashing out and cutting you, you may need to remove or ban....

Well said.

I was in your shoes man, and I'd been on this journey 15 years. I can tell you without a doubt there is something to discover. However, just because you feel and see the way you do now doesn't mean your on the wrong path. If you truely want to know who you are and the truth of the world, dont be afraid to drop all searching and do something worldy or non-sensical for a while leaving searching behind FULL STOP. The desire to know will reveal itself in some form in your new quest, just live life as you feel.

Have you inquired honestly into why you do this? Thats a good place to start. If your confused, put some of your answers here, and maybe you can get some perspective.

The animal kingdom was suffering long before humans arrived. The birth and death of life has been going on far longer then the animal kingdom. Isn't it possible that the universe has created all this, not the people? Universe through the people who see their "selfs" as choosers of creating what you call created by humanity? Not saying there isn't some free will out there but just how much? If you feel/see a vision of something that you feel will improve something or can be beneficial in a moment of action towards your fellow man, by all means manifest it, but let in the possibility that its coming from a bigger vision and will than your own.

I dont know what your exact definition of mathamatics is, but isn't it true that functional things can be made without math? Trial and error, perhaps intuition and observation and experimentation can build a hut, a modest bridge, a filtration system. So if things can be built without "math" perhaps aliens can build spaceships without math. One million aliens may of went into the process of this experimentation and perhaps our math could of saved them time and effort and life, but doesn't mean it was needed to build what we use math to build.

Hey Uchira, I think a good place to start is asking yourself honestly why are you sad and dark. Really face these with no judgement of yourself or others. Really there is absolutely nothing wrong with any feeling or belief or, anything you did or someone else did in your past. Your more than any of these things. Don't be afraid of anything. You can open up here and perhaps we can give you some insight that will be helpful. Also stop with the drugs right now and for a while till you get some clarity in your life. Until then they seem like things you beat yourself up over.

I think we can only speculate why reality is the way it is, but I will say it being a void is only very partial is it not, isn't it also amazing, terrifying, mysterious, hilarious, meaningless, graspable, ungraspable, and then mysterious again....

You should read about and look into western doctors accounts and mysteries about people dying according the western definition and yet come back alive somehow (usually in ways that defy western medicine) and then proceed to tell the doctors what they saw and heard that lines up with what was going on, when they were supposedly dead. Not saying this proves anything, but will make you wonder just what is consciousness and how was it still going on in so called death.

Science has proved consciousness is created by the brain? News to me. Can you share the articles that "prove" this?

Is life an illusion? Is Leo right? What does it feel like to believe life is an illusion? Is this idea you have of what it would mean for life to be an illusion correct and in alignment with actual life, or is your idea of what living life as though it were an illusion, just that...an idea? What Leo means by illusion or anyone for that matter may be very different things..... Careful what you let in as your inner belief on life, it will have effects on how you live. How does it feel to let in the possibility that life is actually real and something positive that you can contribute to?

1st person self and 3rd person self are all one self and more then this one self currently realizes. You are the awareness within/of all these. Recognizing this more and more can grow what you call first person self into a self that is embarrassing of all that 3rd person self recognizes in a way that is tangible and felt. Listening to Brittanys advice (through introspection, dedication and understanding) can help with this shift. Meditation, practice of gratitude, and recognizing just how you experience through mind/body can all help in this development. Be open to the teachings of many enlightened people and integrate what you understand into your life. This will change first person POV. Also cuddo's to you for being so young and open to all this. I will point out some dimensions in your thinking that may help you in your development. Yes resistance to "what is" can cause suffering, however what you've defined as "what is" is only partial. It is on the one hand "what is" from your 1st POV and there for it is a "what is", however this "what is" is your current felt and seen belief system which is creating "what is". This is not a inherent "what is", like a fire under your skin causing burning, its one that you create. Its not a "what is" defined by the objective universe, its only defined by you and those who agree with you (other humans). There are other humans who perhaps you have not met in your circle that do not see your "what is" as you do, and probably find you attractive, funny and a cool small guy to hang out with. Your negative idea's of yourself is creating your "what is" (and yes these idea's are very likely inherited by your influences around you like your peers, the t.v. movies you watch and a long history of similar thinking over the last ?? million years). Hope this helps

Great, if you do find something, let me know, I have a follow up question if so.