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Just trying to be personable man, no need to get out there. I was being sincere, do good for humanity with what you've learned, not combative.

Non for permanent enlightenment, but if you want to peek behind the veil with little effort, psychedelics. Although you need to have a intention, perhaps wanting to understanding, void, or fullness, or unconditional love.

Never heard of it. How you doing man?

why not?

Right on man. Keep on preaching your wisdom. You seem to have found something powerful and useful, I'm just sharing what I've learned as well. We don't have to meet eye to eye. What do you do in your day to day?

Let me ask you something. I know you don't seem to like treading into the realm of "infinity/god/purpose", but say its true that everything is God/Oneness/Beingness and as such, a child having a very normal child like life for ten years is God, you think that that avenue of god/child/life experience is bound to the boundaries of the "Simply stating what Is" as you put it. This childs/god life is bound to Compassion is when observation without evaluating/examining/analyzing-effort is no more. Acceptance/condemning fall within the field of time(measure). The reality is analysis, evaluating, is resistance and therefore push compassion off in time. But compassion is without time(the past). Kid/God is just being/Being a kid. Kids analyze, evaluate and make decisions, and thats just that, life. Said kid can be taught to put themselves in other peoples shoes, which can lead to compassion, said kid can go through challenges of someone they use to judge, that can lead to compassion, said kid can be shown that the world doesn't revolve around them which can lead to compassion, being shown to be less judging by showing you do the same thing, can lead to more compassion. All these can lead to Unconditional Love (which I think is what your pointing to, even though i was originally talking about compassion) eventually. These are all connected, and lead to the other, or perhaps undivided/continous (and sometimes can be leapfrogged to the other, since god works in mysterious ways). I know you feel like your just stating What Is, and its just the facts, and anyone can see it for themselves, but can you see that there's more to it than just that, its that and its that+more.

Your sharing some very deep and profound insights/things/reality, however I'm not sure if you are aware that when you share "The reality is analysis, evaluating, is resistance and therefore push compassion off in time. But compassion is without time(the past). " Is itself a perspective that has use and value, but again is limited and confined, because as I see it, one will simply not allow for anything outside of that if that is what you limit reality to. For example your statement that "The reality is analysis, evaluating = resistance is also paradoxically also false, since those things happen in the flow that is living/waking up/human life which lead to the first thing you were pointing to "Compassion is when observation without evaluating/examining/analyzing-effort is no more". They are connected, not separate. Another example, perhaps not helpful and maybe confusing lol The paragraph, kids are great and learn wonderful things that inspire them to go out and make a difference in the world. They encounter difficulties and hardships such as bullies and asshole bosses and bureaucracy, that dishearten them and maybe run them into the ground of frustration. Now, I'm not gonna put words in your mouth, but very often including myself, people who have spiritual awakenings and understand greater depth of reality (as they believe), will translate the above paragraph into a , there is no kid, who learned anything, they were always just a movement of Being in time, and the difficulties they encountered were just in their mind and were due to resistance, and there were no asshole bosses or buerocrates, it was in the seeres eyes, and their disheartening was self caused and is illusion, and yada yada yada. And while yes there is a half truth there, its also just as true and perhaps down to earth and pretty agreed or recognized that what I originally wrote is true, has value and from my experience in this awakening thing, is also true from that angle, as we are the One and only One's who went through the above as it felt and was seen that way, AND we also learned that it wasn't and was both in and out of our hands, in/as this flowing always present thing called Now/Infinity/God. Or at least thats my take....

Sounds like your talking about unconditional love. And all manners of life trajectories and intentions/non intentions can bring one in touch with it, I'd be careful with limiting it to only reachable in one particular fashion/path/religion/non-thinking. It/god is bigger than that. Agreed, but thats a topic for another day

Yes and theres more to it than that as well, as always. I'm pretty sure its impossible to share a full picture of anything. Before the perspective of what your sharing for most (although it can happen at any time) analyzing, evaluating and examining can lead to compassion as well, its important to understand this as well I believe.

Only so much can be effectively said to someone over the internet in a paragraph. Ya lifes more complex than this, but writing a million page essay to get all angles isn't always helpful. bejapuskas seemed to resonate and get something usefull out of the response and thats hopefully growth. But a lot of what you said is also useful for the right person at that particular moment shared, possibly. More specifically to your comment on suffering, I agree with much of what you said, and my use of embracing was more about to describe not avoiding, relate to it in a way that is healthy instead of its a problem or to be a victim to it. A potential trap within what you shared though is an idea that you can step out of suffering, sure minimize, but step out completely (maybe maybe maybe, but I dont know if its a healthy goal), but this can lead to not being satisfied if you still have shreds/slivers/some suffering still that you can't figure out/shake/transcend. To accept suffering is oddly to suffer less, but I'm sure you've seen this. Cheers, and happy holidays.

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Ya pretty much. Hopefully it leads to more compassion and understanding of other and self.

well said, and thanks for the reminder. To many people get caught up in something in particular.

Who said it didn't? This is just as "deep", as "deeper" and the deepest is just as important as the mundane.

I would say stop worrying about stages and where your at. They are not there to be transcended as though its a temporary negative holding place to get past into the next one. Each stage is relevant and a avenue for life. Embrace the life, the you and the heart/desires you are with right now. Be kind, honest and thoughtful as your able. Don't over think your life. What do you want now? How can you accomplish that? Go do it. Don't do it because someone told you, you have to evolve into stage green/yellow or become enlightened because thats what lifes about, and if you don't you will be unhappy and doing your life wrong. Again life isn't about moving up a spiral, its about living now, embracing you, the suffering and joy thats apart of it.

Really good post and I feel its pretty spot on in a lot of respects. However something I think is important to also understand is the qualities your asking everyone to uphold are hopefully the qualities people are doing the work to achieve or fall into through their spiritual pursuits. Most people in the world didn't come into it with such qualities nor were raised, went to school with or go to work with cultures who uphold such qualities. Just because Leo is teaching stuff on Non-duality doesnt meant everyone whos watched all the content (a lot haven't) are going be able to be the above type of people. So have patience, understanding and make posts like this to hopefully make people aware.

Are you feeling a pull from within to let go of certain things and are wondering if you want to trust this spiritual/enlightenment processes? Or are you thinking of exploring this area for a particular reason but not sure of it due to what you said? If so, why are you curious about this area of life? What are you hoping to find or change in your current one? It's important to get clear on this, since the spiritual path is not for everyone and this is not a negative, its just the course of life for "You". A lot of people hear about this enlightenment stuff and due to the teacher or whats said it can come across or is directly said to be the most important thing and if you dont your life will be meaningless, but this is not the case (bible preachers use to do this). Some souls/forms of creation are here to have a family and learn that leason, others are to be artists and create learning those lessons. Look inside and find what you want the most, but run away from things that may scare you.

I went through this stuff and still do to an extent for the last 20 years and I attribute it to all of the above. It seems the changing/evolving of perception/energy/wisdom is a never ending thing for me, which has taken a long time for me to accept since its been a real cause of pain and bliss, but somehow the mind holds onto pain more for me, atleast subconsciously it seems.

Theres a good chance they will probably teach the next generation on the monistary, but you never know with this stuff. The world will continue to spin, life will continue to evolve and the inifinite universes will continue to Be. Said monk may serve a greater purpose at that point or they may just relax into life and live and die like anyone else.

What do you mean you are enlightened? Can you elaborate? It could be a spiritual shift of some sort that is making it hard for you to adjust. A lot more info would help.

Century of the Self is a 3 part 6 hour documentary that is mind opening (If you live in America), you can find it online for free.

You sound like your on a genuine path to awakening so far. And by the sounds of it, your doing fine so far. I'd keep trusting your intuition and discovering the life lessons that are taking you along your intention. In terms of your wondering if your maybe fooling yourself and your just still in more mind believing its now free mind? Well unfortunately no one can tell you this for certain, this is between you and You. There isn't a exam that gives you certificate of authenticity for this one. But your words have honesty, humbleness and feel authentic from what I can gather. Honestly though, why do you need to know either way? Will it make you feel better knowing you accomplished what you set out for? Or are the results you've found still not good enough? Or if it were true what you've found would you want to then tell others? Do you want to know if your ready to help others with what you learned? Honestly feel and look into these questions, they may open up some things.....

@Blissout @Preetom Your both right! Your both quoting different awakened masters accepted by human beings as Enlightened. Each one of you believe different things and both are right in the whole of everything. Unless you believe there is a set in stone definition of Enlightenment defined by the original source, layed out in some bible buried under the sea, its probably just speculation and accepted definitions within yourself. One would even say understanding this, is Enlightenment, but this is a word better discarded outside of trying to use labels to roughly communicate.

I've been meditating for 20 years at this point. If your just starting and what you've described is your experience, then please do yourself a favor and ease into it. Sounds like its bringing up a lot real fast. Put some music on that relaxes you, meditate for only a couple times a week, and dont do more than 20 mins for a while. Then when you feel more at ease, like your getting some benefit, then try 30-40 mins and see how that goes. To much to fast is perhaps worse than never meditating at all. You can also try the meditation I learned and still do, I made a video on it not to long ago. Again, put on some music that relaxes you, it will help with getting used to meditation. I know in my video I don't speak about music, but for you after you've done it with the video, try it with music next time. And then just come back to the video or leave any questions when you want to remember how its done.

Sounds like your on a honest inquiry into yourself. What was your initial desire to do all this, even though now you seem to be touching into some wisdom of "hard to define destinations", "Mysterious, non-state/place/something", "No stopping points", which makes the path harder to talk about (this is a good thing most likely). Also in terms of looking "deeper", what compels this, what is hoping to be found or understood? These will help me better understand you and what may help you with where your at.... My sense is your onto something and are maybe about to have your mind blown, but I don't want to jump to conclusion.