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Maybe Leo's view is not for you and this is perfectly fine and important to recognize. There are lots of other sources of nonduality and spiritual teachings out there. See if any of them connect with your heart and go about them slowly to see how your mind/body/ego react. I've had to take large chunks of time off from "spiritual" stuff and just live life (sometimes years off). Interestingly enough though, if your desire is still truely to know truth and what this all is, you'll learn lessons even when you drop the meditation stuff, reading stuff and just do "normal" things (again so long as you truely desire truth).

In my experience you cant really get rid of fear, but you can overcome it. Start with asking yourself what you want to do genuinely. Then from there go out and do those things and if fear comes up, recognize the fear by inwardly saying, this is fear, its natural and normal and even CEOs and the best actors, sports players, soldiers all have fear arise. It's not going to kill me, and I'm going to do what I want and not let this fear be the reason I dont go forward. It will get easier and easier the more you do this. The first times doing this will be challenging, but stick with it.

Congrats man. Have fun!

Good realizations man, now you can make some steps forward. Lots of kind people out there.

Neither one is ‘you’ everything exisists within the one. But this one is not singular or multiple.

If you want to vid chat and see where it goes or are open to learning, I'm available, just send me a message.

So you offer a path of knowledge of which there are many that will take a person to a place of understanding what?

Your welcome. And like I said if your up for talking just to see where it go’s im available. Either way you sound like your approaching this thing openly and honestly.

Read my post again I edited at the end. What can you prove I’m not sure what you’ve learned or know.

What are you offering? Immortality? Knowledge? Honestly you come across as a bit arrogant, boastful and a Know it all in some of the posts I’ve seen you in. Youve made mention of that here so I must not be the only one to have said this. What it ever it is you do know your audience. If your trying to be helpful and heal people or work with the spiritual community then you will be judged most likely along those values. And if you do have value to offer to these people maybe it’s inportant to change that about yourself so what you have can be heard.

Hey KMB4222, Sounds to me like your in a authentic place of "spiritual" development. Its a wonderful place, sound exactly where I was for a year in my process (if one is to give this a word). A deep sense of not knowing, yet knowing you dont know and no need to know and a peace that comes with this. Although in time you may even find you dont know if you are a "this" experiencing "this" and honestly its not even important if you do or not. Let me know if you resonate with this video. Also much like yourself, I'm open to helping others with where ever there at with my free time. If you are up for a chat/video or what not, send me a message.

This may make you pause but let it in for a moment. If it’s true that nothing means anything but what our ego gives it. Then isn’t that itself a ego statement. A view which is nihilistic perhaps. Can you drop even that view.

I was going to make a video about this subject, and still will. But I think one thing that is important in letting new stuff in is the willingness to temporarily trust and let in what another is saying as real, instead of putting it into a box in which you analyze how ever it is you analyze and then if it matches your then believed world, you let it in, if not, you discard it. This is almost like trusting with the willingness before proof is given, to see and feel what may be there, see from that view and learn. Now of course if the person is telling you to kill, rape, harm, what not, I'd advice to not just let that in and act, but if its along the lines of something like; The world is fundamentally good and is connected in mysterious and magical ways, and we can feel and see those ways if we just become a little more quiet, see synchronicity and follow are hearts. Then here I'd say let it in (even if it is wrong in some ways) and just let that temporary mask/perspective lens on for a period and see what shifts over time. I think a lot of people need lots and lots of proof in how ever they accept proof, to let anything new in, which on some level makes sense, with survival and a body thing going on here, but perhaps its not something that has to be lived by so strictly all the time.

If you are up for a mind fuck and looking to grow, ask yourself a few questions. What makes the person you think is less conscious, actually so? And is it actually so? What makes you think your more conscious then this person? IS this so? Is it ACTUALLY true to its clinging to what one thinks is what causes suffering? Or is it partially true? Or is it true at all (do you know for a fact that suffering is even in your hands to change or not).

It sounds like your tapping into something and authentic to your journey into yourself. I know its temping to want to identify and label it and see if its connected to what others call "their nothing/god/self" but I'd resist the temptation right now. In the end it doesn't matter if what you connect with as Nothing matches others, no one can tell you what that really is except for yourself. This is kinda tied to you ultimately being alone AND (perhaps later you will see) everything. In regards to your last question "Oh and, just one other thing - If I am Nothing, then who is it that feels the depression? the very PAIN of the depression? That thought has me sincerely confused. I have always thought we are incarnations, a part of source. So naturally, source is feeling a part of the pain (our souls)...but If I am nothing, I don't know how to look at things at all right now.." Don't get attached to the word and belief you are Nothing in a literal sense. Here, I think your mind/part of you is literally trying to believing itself to be it's idea of a nothing, as in a absence of something. This is a mind trap. There is no such thing as a literal nothing. Infinity/God/Self is a "something". Literal nothings do not exist, if they did, it would mean there is the absence of infinity/source/god, and this is never the case. So ultimately who is it that feels depression? You do. The very pain? You do. Does this mean you have to solve why its there, or make it go away....no. Does this depression mean something about you? No. The pain? No. Does this depression perhaps have a logical/linear reason why it arises, like because you have a belief about life or yourself or a pain from a past life, very possibly yes. Does doing some degree of inquiry and honest looking into have the potential to help it shift, change or disappear....possibly yes, but even if you do come to its reason/bottom, it still may arise in the body/mind (which is totally ok and means nothing about you, and doesn't make life a problem, minus the fact it may be some degree of unpleasant, but even this can be understood and accepted).

Its a process of "deepening" that one could say is both in and out of our hands, hard to pin down, its a goal/desire that is pure and true to your incarnation and in line with "waking up". I get the sense that you have a belief now that there is no you that could get this, but there is only YOU that gets this. You see, Not all god/self/life incarnations (if you want to call it that) are about the going from living a normal everyday human perspective life to one t hat is shedding that or waking up to what we all are underneath the appearances. Its always and has been the case that your IT. Again I sense You still have an idea that what ever you think you are is not it and you have to shed that (ego maybe you call yourself). But your IT, theres not anything thats not you. Also, Other accident prone habits that increase this happening is meditation, looking at the nature of your own and others death and the practice of gratitude and appreciation.

A number of teachers I've come across say that "spiritual practices" make you accidental enlightenment prone. Some of the most powerful things I'd say that continue to "deepen" are coming back to the understanding in realization that I really don't know (this was cultivated from a practice of self inquiry into beliefs of all sorts).

Ask yourself do I want to discover who I am. And before you say but do I have free choice, just drop that, and feel what happens. If you feel it in you that you do, then proceed, if not, you don't want it now. Simple as that. Let go of all the but this but that, just really really be serious about the question.

A monthly keeping Brown Bears in check reminder.

Magic doesn't always happen, nor was it ultimately the point. But it does sound like it had a intended effect in that it brought you into the meditative state.

Hey guys, so this a experimental video. I'm more trying to convey a connection then a contextual understanding. If your up for it, watch this video in a quiet setting and just listen, don't focus on the words, let the mind bend, think, doubt, ponder, but don't get caught up in it, just keep coming back to the sound. Let me know if it brings up anything useful or if you have any questions pertaining to the content, I can maybe answer it here.

Good. Can you pause a moment and see that on some level your fundamentally approaching this whole enlightenment idea like a scientist tries to understand rules to then replicate said rules. Then once these rules are repeated, said believed person will then become what it then believes it has through its own story (now enlightened because of doing enlightened things and having some changes in perception). Hmmmm what is this said believed ‘person’before ,during and after this story that is believing itself to be enlightened. If you begin to panic and doubt yourself now, just relax and let it happen the mind is being check mated

Congrats. ?

Beautiful.

As the above poster made mention, you said you think you saw nothingness and then rationalized that this may be your true self. However what is aware of this ‘you’ that saw all this other stuff. That my friend is worth looking into. If you can see what you call yourself inside your head body or awareness your not there yet.