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Ya who knows....

Its not so direct as your hoping. While I talked about these things in some what of a linear fashion they don't always unfold that way. So let go of "next step", "You" "Are". Drop solving, let it come and go. I read your recent returning post and think its great that you saw so much into "not needing" in its many ways, keep letting those be seen through, love and care and consider in your life. If you really need to get your finances taken care, really get it taken care of, I know you mentioned something like this before.

I dont know why but my sense for you is that you may find it useful to let go of connecting, since honestly "what" is there to connect?

@Jordan94 Thank you for everything you've shared, you obviously have a lot of experience with what your doing, where you've come from and whats changed and how its changed. I even took a few notes to contemplate over in the future. However one trap that I've fell into in the past, read about from past teachers and found in people I've worked with is having "to much" of a understanding of where your at, where your not and how far away you are to that. Is this something you’ve encountered in your path?

I like what you are bringing into the picture about "grounded/ungrounded" its something I'll have to consider in future interactions. But yes "absolutely so's" provide grounding, perhaps because of the nature of the humans mind/bodys development and ease certainty provides it. This is neither a good or bad thing, just what is, grounding is a pleasant experience one needent try to reject in hopes of getting to those higher, flowy expanding, minding blowing times, nor hold onto in fear that they will lose something they've gained, finally gotten to or understood (even if these do and will happen as its "human" to greater and lesser degree's, like in death of a loved one or loss of ones useful capacities in contributing in ways they no longer could due to a brain injury or loss of a arm). From my own experience, it seems as though through so many grounded ungrounded, grounded, ungrounded, that chaos, change, stability chaos change stability became a "grounded" you could say, and the nature of "grounded" is perhaps less suffering, stability, ease in the same prior chaos, change, stability. But there is also infinite subtley in this to, since chaos, change, stability, and ones "absolutely so" are also/are/and more, dependent on mind/yourself/itself and how one/it/you, relates to/see's such/IS (again not negating, but are intertwined/are/and more). Hmm as I write this I see the need for a new language to communicate multiplicity at once......thats what the also/are/and more is indicating.

This is my theory, its important sometimes for a student to understand something as "absolutely so" for a while, since the benefits that come with this, is that a much higher ingraining effect on the psyche can take place. Most if not all psychies to begin with are believing a "absolutely so" that is generally not fully benefiting them, and having them acclimate, change and then live from a new vantage point for a period of time can be very healing in letting them let go of their previous harming tendencies, and mind sets that are more fixed and limiting. Neti Neti is one of these and is also not false nor true, which is yet another developing and enveloping perspective that can come in "development". Which if we want to continue with the theme that I've started, "development", a word that for most minds triggers an idea of time and a taking placeness over a experiential length of some sort, is a Nowness thing that only appears to take place in a experience of time (another awaking perspective). However this "Nowness" and "Time Experience" and "Developments that take place" are both true and not reducing of the other, since again all thats being shared about here is of Source/God and Source/God is all there is, it is those things and doesn't reduce those things to "only god exists" and "those other understandings/perspectives/life experiences" aren't real. (another awakened understanding and something a lot of people on this forum are stuck in).

Seriously what’s both a rabbit and duck and feeling stuck.

Thank you for sharing, these types of things are very subtle for most, thats why when I was working with these types of practices, I would rewatch them a few times, to give it time to settle in.

Awesome to hear stuff like this. Lots of People don’t understand how transformational meetings with god. Deep realizations or making a real change in ones life can have.

A statue? Lol not the intention of the video. Can you elaborate?

Hey, So it may be spiritually related and it may not. I know this may seem heartless, but consider yourself lucky that your worse issue is fatigue. Honestly just look around the world and see your situation on the "The potential life suck that could happen to you" Scale, and let it in, your pretty ok man. Also, Keep going within, really just ask internally when its most quiet within and without, what is the best course of action, trust this for a while, and go with what it revealed. Trust yourself. Doctors don't know whats going on, forums all have their own idea's, its just you and you now. Find strength in this. Accept all the worst possibilities and all the best and continue living at peace with it all, since in the end you can't predict whats around any corner from this point on.

Ya lots of weird things can happen like this but if you have a doctor to just make sure it’s nothing more serious. Better safe then sorry.

Dont just tell me, tell the whole enlightenment community, because its a huge thing to find a method for such. Its something that many teachers don't have the answer to, myself included even though it happened. Just out of curiosity how do you intend to find the most direct methods? Self testing? Interviewing all awakened masters and their students to find out what did and did not work? Really curious, I like your honesty when you say you don't want to delude or send anyone down the wrong path, but what your claiming is out there, is something I don't know if there is "one or two". By the way are you a aspiring student, or do you feel as though you've awakened to a degree that you feel ready to show the way?

Its something you can cultivate by deliberately remembering almost loosing your life and the importance that had on you, and deliberately praying and giving thanks for a few minutes in your meditation in the morning at night to your loved ones and things you appreciate or appreciated that day. Its something that I've done from the suggestion of Tony Robbins (he does it every morning) and it seems to work.

How does one become aware of the intelligence of God-Self from no self?

The important distinction here that only you can be honest and truthful about with yourself is, do you believe your consciousness as an idea, or do you know deeply. Its when you know deeply that you can just allow/surrender let all the ego stories, bodily tendencies, traumas/karma's still present to continue to exist, and allow for a transformation/transcendence to unfold that will take time, but is rooted in the deep realization of your true face. Does any of this resonate? If not, keep with a practice of looking into the stories of what you believe you are, and the stories that continue to keep you in fear or cause suffering to you or others and see them for what they are. Maybe this video will help...

Crazy story, thanks for sharing. Ya death right in front of you really brings out the desire to live and can switch a lot of things on in you you never knew you had, like appreciation, yearning to live, desire to go for some goals you were putting off, closeness to loved ones. Glad your still here, now its time to live life with a greater appreciation of the time

When a everything revelation happens you will have no doubt what it’s pointing to. Hahaha. You can get very intellectual after but the embodied directness of that moment is such that all is oneself experientially. Not a belief. No confusion about it. Remember before your recognition of nothingness. Prior it may of seemed impossible unfathomable, or just a fantasy. Then boom void/nothing/undefinable yet happening. Same thing here boom, everything, historical laughter probably. Your point 2. Is interesting. I’d have to ponder that one some more.

Really that’s fascinating. Do you have any articles links or what not about this. I want to read about it.

Is there anything that seems to be a barrier from more palpable? Or is a surrender/becoming in action that is unfolding just fine?

Is this something that was unclear before? Is it your desire for this to happen? Have you found some progress in such?

Who still wonders if its consciousness now or if its ego in disguise now? To me it sounds like "You" as you ultimately are still have a lot of idea's of what "You" are or are not. "You" is believing itself to be on some spiritual path with certain rules "You" have learned. "You" believe "You" won't find yourself unless some idea of ego "You" believe is not there. "You" believe that if there is some sort of "I" experience as you've learned it to mean or see it in experience means that its not a true non-dual or experience of Self. These beliefs are keeping "You" stuck in a loop in "You". These are all fantasies and rules your still governed by. Let this in for a while, and let me know if this makes any sense or challenges you in some way.

So this is your experience your talking about? Or are you trying to figure out how one knows/sees itself and yet is not ego since the way people phrase knowing themselves creates what looks like a someone knowing themselves (which is what ego is commonly referred as) which sounds like duality still happening since something is knowing itself as something?

@yangmilun your posts seem very poetic And honest. I’d say just be. It’s all ok. Your bordem with work. Your ideas and desires. Your confusions. By the sound of it I’d say your human. So just be so.

‘What’s’ being witness consciousness in this example? or another way of putting it is. What is it that is seeing itself as being witness consciousness? is this question in relation to how you see your inner experience and are wondering what it means?