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Thats an interesting take on Davids motivations, I could see that. I know when I listened to him, I felt something similar, he just seemed to hate that other part of himself so much that he would never let it get the better of him. But I could see it being both fear and hate intertwined in some sorta unique way to him.

I think you should read his post again, there is a lot more meat in that then I think you got out of it. Now don't get me wrong, if I want to build a house I'm going to go to a builder, plumbing a plumber, electrical work an electrician, that said, I think you need to consider some things when you ask about objectivity and "science". You think thats air your breathing Neo, think again. Lets go down a rabbit hole..... Is there a consensus of what objective or science even is? Now if you can even get close to answering this, it may start to occur at some point that there is no consensus even among humans what any given words mean, but lets say you can nail down objective, and science. Do these line up "objectively" to anything "objective" lol, perhaps the consensus and the agreed upon what your talking about isn't even real, but you've come up with all these sciences and measurements proving something that doesn't even prove what you think it does. It may, feel and seem like it makes sense to all those involved, but does it even equate to Reality. Now lets say you do determine objective things by the was your using the word. Now what, there is data, but what does it mean? Sky blue. Apples drop. Fire burns. Birds fly. What is this data without making anything out of it, or about it? Or another way to say it is, without being consciousness of data and meaning made out of it, what exactly is it? Do you see the subtly here and how it ties to a question about "objectivity"? What if consciousness of such data and the meaning that is drawn from it isn't consistent or even personally controlled? And if so, what would objectivity or even data even mean, especially if its just a universal mind unfolding and being? I want a little of everywhere, feel free to ask me more specifically what I mean if your not following.

Perhaps contemplate "what is language without awareness/experience/beingness". It may reveal some of your inner dualistic notions of what "You" are and thus what anything is. Could there be "language" without the latter?

For what ever reason I feel like sharing this story, perhaps you all will find it fascinating. Of course it will be met with a lot of "its probably your mind playing tricks on you", which I totally understand, but it is what it is. So anyways, if you've seen the movie Yesterday, its about a man who has an accident and wakes up, but at some point during the movie learns that the Beatles don't actually exist in the world he woke up to, even though everything else is the same. I remember when I saw this movie I was like wow, cool, perhaps thats possible, but didn't think much of it after that. Well, during the pandemic, I was walking with my wife and I was like, oh we should watch Tank Girl, since we had been talking about Gwen Stefani, and wanted to show her something Gwen acted in when she was younger. Problem was, GWEN STEFANI IS NOT IN THE MOVIE when I went back to watch it. Now probably a lot of you haven't seen the movie before, and those of you who have, are like, ya, she's not in the movie, but my whole life its been one of those random memories that I've kept track of and thought of off on and on enough, since it really stood out to me when she did it. I remember when the movie was about to come out, and people where talking about it on the radio about how odd it was that the girl from No Doubt, was chosen to Tank Girl. I remember reading about it in the paper, I remember seeing it with my friends in High School and talking about it. I remember over hearing about it at other places during the course of my life. But again, she's not in Tank Girl apparently. Now whats interesting is there is a phenomenon called the Mandala Effect, which talks about things like this event with other things in the world and how people, large groups of people remember it differently. Apparently theres other things that groups of people remember differently. To me this really points to the possibility that part of the universe and perhaps the human experience is somehow being transported into alternate realities, without any hitch in the system where everything is the same and you don't even know it happened. Like my experience, everything in this world is exactly the same, except that moment, which I know I didn't dream up or imagine, since I have way to many reference points of it happening. Perhaps there's other explanations, but to me I find this really fascinating and makes the world all the more interesting. Hope you enjoyed the story.

What the hell is the bottom right thing... Oh its the hand of god going to catch the guy/god God is flicking off the mountain?

Nothing makes someone a "God". God is already and has always been whats taking place. There isn't anything but "God", so there for everyone, everything and everywhere you could say is "God".

I can definitely relate to this phenomenon, at times its so hard feeling, and at others its so strange. In the end I find it is what it is, and to just let it run its psychological and emotional course. Perhaps in time you will get less concerned with it when its happening, perhaps it will become a background sorta thing, like the wind. Your always free to put your attention somewhere else and not worry that this process is going on, its not a sign of a problem, being on the wrong path or doing something wrong that caused this (these are ones that I notice catch the attention and create a great deal of confusion and going in circles). You sound like a good person on the right track, perhaps some of my words have been helpful.

It really depends if you see division and contrast to begin with. If there isn't one, then there's nothing to do, but if there is, I find that being warm hearted towards what ever that is can lighten the moment or create ease with the division and contrast. It helps to realize through deep spiritual moments that there isn't any real division to begin with. But even without those, softening the edges, say in your judgements, emotional reactions, and perhaps rigid feelings/beliefs can create in the moment ease. Perhaps even doing so more often will create a natural softening, or habit of softening that will create more pleasantcy more often.

Doors still open, always open for a conversation.

Were you diagnosed with some sort of addiction or is this self diagnosed? Whats the problem with having some icecream and cake a couple times a week?

@ardacigin Its interesting you mention VR on this forum. I recently got a occulus 2 and have found it pretty profound. I don't know if you believe in different spritual bodies such as light and what not, but I found that VR has allowed an access to a Self sense I don't think I could of connected with as deeply without VR. I've found being in VR outer space and meditating with eye's open to be uniquely liberating.

You had a momentary glimpse into a real truth.

Yes thank you.

I was watching Leo's video on Does Free Will Exist? - What Is Will?, and he refered to a video on Authority, but I don't know what video this is or any title that had Authority in it (I did see Authoritarianism, but didn' think that was what he meant). SOLVED

Wait who is this imposter. The real veganawake would of said there is no you and there for no one to have a subconsciousness to feel guilty about.

I wouldn’t be to concerned. You just may lack deep in your body stimulation or connection to your own emotions. These activities your doing sound like they could be proving that on some level. there’s a certain forgone and new excitement to violence and stuff you only hear about. Plucking hairs or small pains can be euphoric. Aggressive control can feel deeply connecting to your inner animal drives. I’d encourage you not to treat others or animals that way anymore which it sounds like you naturally are doing since it was in the past.

What about solipsism?

Forget the title of this video. This was probably one of the top five understandings that helped me on my spiritual journey. I'm willing to bet that this video is more relevant than almost any video out on the internet in regard to what the majority of people on this forum suffer from. Put simply, you think your the center the of the universe (in a non-freeing way) and as a result you give so much importance to this character, and you think everyone else does to. I've wanted to and probably still will make a video on this same subject, but they nail it so well for the age group here I thought I'd share it now.

No big deal, it just doesn't look good to have pirated video links on the forum.

@softlyblossoming Dont link pirated movies to the forum.

Would you rather leave or add something positive to the world and maybe help the issues that cause you pain?

I wouldn't go down the road of "even if I woke up tomorrow and everything went perfectly for the rest of my life. It feels like nothing could ever make up for the pain I’ve been through". Is this the way and how you want your story to go? If you still see it as in your head, then let it be just in your head, no need to believe it into being true, leave it as a thought/feeling. Does that make sense? Otherwise your literally letting yourself go down the road of nothing can change this, and even if it were to go away and feel better I'd still let myself feel worse and bring up how bad it was in the past, "now", because the past was so bad. Does that make sense?

Sometimes the most obvious least spiritual way is how to deal with it. Just ask whats making you nervous, and if its a practical thing, then just do it, sometimes procrastination, resisting what you feel like is the important thing, or the safe thing is just going to cause anxiety. So in those cases, just try and get shit done. If its less obvious and hard to figure out, then maybe have them look into stocism or something similar that just doesn't sensationalize uncomfortable experience. Lifes uncomfortable, and its not the end of the world. When really getting this, sometimes anxiety or dull discomforts or little things that bother you, fade more into the background or not at all. Not all discomfort is a indication that theres something in the background thats worse or a circumstance that needs therapy or solving for it to go away. Sometimes you bleed, sometimes you anxiety, sometimes you stress, of no intention, and the reason has no reason.

whats wrong with enjoying yourself while your here? Why call it hedonism or see it through someone else's negatively biased lenses?