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My words were meant to be simple to understand but the subtlety and the challenge of what I was pointing to is very tricky. The pointlessness that is overwhelmingly self evident to you in seeing there is no life or death is exactly the false conviction itself, coming from the ego/mind/society screaming ‘what’s the point then’. It doesn’t look like a voice or a ego, but just is your ‘real’ and that is what we are all pointing to. My guess is your use to being able to see the thoughts or feelings in your experience that cause some of your suffering. This one however is believed and thus it seems real and thus has you when it does, making you feel it’s actually truely pointless.

If I understand you correctly, your wondering if the pointlessness fades at some point? From my experience yes, the ego/identy/society structure is founded on an inherentcy of there being meaning and points to things. When this is challenged through introspection and sitting in my moments of awakening and being, this same structure then goes Hmmm so whats the point, its pointless because all my ideas have no meaning or tangability? But this to is just a reaction that feels believable. And this can be a REALLY challenging phase for some people, ESPECIALLY people like you whole have a rich deep connection to meaning making and thinking and high level overviewing. I to am the same way. You really have to get use to NOT KNOWING over and over and over and it may not be fun, at least this was my path in all this. I dont know what your path will look like in this regards, but if you really want to understand, you may have to sit in the fire for some truth to burn through......

I was going to say this but you got it. Its a big trap when you start to see what you've been seeing. The "its pointless because" is itself still being given. When that is dropped.....enjoy.

This is something I've wanted to share and teach for a bit, I've just been unsure of how to communicate the how to. If you do watch this and practice what i'm pointing to and find effectiveness let me know, and if not, let me know what was hard to understand so I can maybe refine or elaborate on more aspects of this to help make it more accessible.

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Isn’t The whole question your asking exists in its own paradigm of assumptions. Something called a delusion and something called a truth, all ideas happening. Essentially A concept in which something called a insight lines up or not with something called a Truth that it matches. Aren’t these just more ideas? This to me is treading into the territory in which you just surrender into the cliche but very true saying ‘god is bigger then an ability to understand’. If done fully the ‘i’ May drop and the seeing into born again every moment may reveal itself. Such future question may seem so trivial at this point.

All things can be a barrier or a opening to realization. So don’t spend to much time being concerned.

Ya kinda lol.

Man I laughed so hard when I saw this in another forum about realization.....

Never heard of anthro befor but sounds like you’ve cultivated a ability to connect with other things on a mental or soul level. I’ve used this ability to tune into Jesus Buddha and a number of enlightened masters. If that’s what your interested in give it a try. You may feel yourself expand into something as a result. Ask me any questions if you have any and maybe I’ll make a video. It’s something I’ve wanted to do and learn about how others do it.

What’s your goal in all this? That may better help in guiding you. What are you waiting to happen with all this stuff.

I believe it was in the spirituality or awakened forum of reddit.

No one found this funny? Man tough audience.

Truth for sure. But when not some sex as well.

Good god. I’m not sure the world needs another bible like this with ideas about experiences then more ideas about those ideas and experiences. While there is some merit in them I just don’t see a scripture like that doing most people any good. Yes yes I know there are no people to begin with lol, but treading into brown bear territory may not be ideal either. Anyways thanks for sharing but one glaring and head scratching thing about this is if it were true it makes god seem to be a rather silly thing with its usage of supposed unlimited creative will. Like let me , god will my own struggle that is supposed to be gotten out of as a goal created by me so that I can return to me again. And learn about myself along the way even though I’m already all knowing and know all things, makes no sense I much prefer the interpretation that god manifests much like a tree grows not knowing of how it will or does grow but none the less experiences suchness along the way and learning from the process about itself. Otherwise god is a idiot in its intentions and planning. It’s also my experience of god and awakening but maybe I’m wrong.

Multiply this by 10,000 https://i.imgur.com/XcJGT1A.gifv

Eeeeeh, ya its just as much intellectual as a feeling or anything. I'm pointing to something beyond questions and the emptiness of them. Im curious though what do you mean by wanting to feel a question? You mean the curiosity before a question or perhaps from which it arises?

@Danioover9000 Ask crystal where it’s experience and motivations arise from. Curious what it would say. Does she think or thinking arise? Does she feel or do feelings arise. Do things just happen or does she feel like she does them.

Ask crystal where it’s experience and motivations arise from. Curious what it would say. Does she think or thinking arise? Does she feel or do feelings arise. Do things just happen or does she feel like she does them.

I don’t know if I’d go as far as to define actuality itself as itself going through a negation technique to become what is. It’s always what it is, human point of view negation journey or not.

@Barna Maybe you'll like my video on this from a few months ago.

There are a few traps here that people fall into as well with these words. There is a assumption already told to be accepted as true already here and that is the "I am" in which the seeker is to accept in their own unique way and is Truth, that see's and is something seeing the "I". Now this approach succeeds in some to let go of old habits beliefs and clinginesses that can cause suffering, but it can also be a new defined Absolute/Object point to seek to attain, to believe to be, argue about, feel failure in regards to not reaching or being, and creating all sorts of new knots. Also at the end it talks of ending duality, which can be another trap that puts a picture in the seekers mind that duality is a problem to begin with, that needs to be gotten out of, thus creating new knots, time based path ideas of how long and how far it will take and how close one is to this. It also creates new idea's terms, definitions of what Duality is, and generally what the new defined problems are with Duality. Thus more knots and believed problems and potential suffering. Duality is not the problem, nor is "I", body or mind. These are in action now. They are not, not supposed to be there, nor supposed to go, nor supposed to remain, or are problems in and of themselves. So what are they you may ask then. Well, saying anymore may be to much.....

The thing about your answer "take all illusions out and you are left with actuality" is who's calling what illusions and defining actuality? Also when all supposed self defined illusions have vanished, whats calling what what, if anything at all. It seems one has defined what is a path and then as a result of meeting ones own requirements of the path, one defines where they have landed. mmmmaybe? Maybe not? I agree with a lot of what your saying, except with the notion that God knowing itself is the end of enifibility since what IS a God knowing itself, I feel there is a ungraspability of God itself that is part of it all and even this is saying way to much about a mystery that can't really be pointed or defined and thus talked/typed about and yet an opposite is as well along with everything in between or not, and language begins to break down, pointing begins to break down, understanding begins to break down, and the topic is gone......and yet remaining remains....

And here I thought I could be confusing. Ya, I prefer the answer, God, but thanks for sharing.

Hahahaha, I love that answer.