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First of all sorry for the suffering, it sounds like a shit show and must be visceral. I know Ive been down that road of the mind going wild and reality really seeming that way. That said and since your open to new perspectives, the only thing that stood out in your writing is you talked about yourself in 3rd person and labeled yourself as the ego. Why not trying to just let in and say I felt this way, I believed this, and perhaps in the future "I" can remind myself next time something of this nature happens, that "I" can remind myself and safely assume, "I'm" just freaking out. Id be curious how this feels and you react to this. It may be a radical shift, it may bring up some fundamental ideas that are in conflict with eachother. It may bring up judgements and assumptions and internal turmoil, that "you" can feel see and understand and perhaps organically relax and accept, creating greater self-Self-Love and understanding and no-inner/outer fighting/fear.

What is confusing in this that you didn't get? Sounds like you understood some.

@EmptyVase but what does putting it on a scale or making a claim about one or the other have to do with if those things exist or not. Do you think the scale and ideas of these activities makes the other go away or less desired? Or do both so to say exist and scales or thoughts about them make no difference. Maybe they will ‘be’ there wether or not we feel they are higher better lower or encouraged towards one Hope that makes sense. Food for thought. P.S. don’t get me wrong I advocate for kindness and environmentalism is part of that, but higher or lower, objectively better/worse is what I’m pointing to. From the point of each embodied organism or conscious entity better or worse is relative to them and may not be great for you or I but for them.

Absolutely love this meditation Bentinho just released. Deeping ones own connection with the infinite is a never ending possibility and this meditation is perfect to approach something that you may do already or feel like you've outgrown, new again.

Fondue?

By letting go of the ideas and hate or unfounded opinions on it. Then in that remainder something can newly emerge. Think of all those as a type of soil that’s been in the ground all these years. When you remove those ingredients the soil will grow something new.

@EmptyVase does perspective need to be on a scale? What if it’s not. Does it really matter?

Awesome thanks for sharing. One of those guys has done a lot of interviews with non dual teachers who has a interesting youtube channel

@whatthefucksgoinon from my experience and everything I’ve read the answer would appear to be more likely. There may be times of more thoughts but one thing that can be realized is thoughts aren’t heavy or disturbing in and of themselves. So for some awakenings thought doesn’t have to change for freedom and peace to be achieved, since thought has no intrinsically negative attributes.

I'm just an American from the West coast, living in on the East Coast for the last 18 years.

He has a slightly different hierarchy when talking about consciousness, he actually puts god one level after Infinite consciousness. Not sure I follow or agree, but its how he breaks down "This" into different ways of articulation.

@Sahil Pandit Pretty cool thanks for sharing. Got a special place in my heart for games, esports and the scene. I use to work for LucasArts, was a top 15-20 player in quake 2, placed in top 16 of the first 2 professional gaming league tournaments for quake 2. Good luck with your dreams, more then ever you can make a life playing games, lol, still blows my mind we've come to this possibility in the world (and not in a negative way).

Let me know what you think. I know a lot of you guys at this point based upon being exposed to a lot of questions challenges and confusions I see commonly posted on this forum, and while there are some of you who have a good thing going in terms of understanding metaphysical pointers and how they are useful for creating positive change in your life, there's a lot of you who need something more down to earth and more relatable and obvious to stabilize and grow from. While it doesn't give you a how to, like a manual on how to lift weights effectively, the knowledge and letting in of a new perspective has its own transformative benefits, so long as your open and keep reminding yourself of it perspective, and especially when you catch yourself falling into old habits of thinking and feeling about yourself or how the world "statically" is (like its a negative place, or life is a negative place or happening). Let me know what you think or if you have any questions...

Thanks for sharing, thats very sweet.

Thanks man. Ya my cat is amazing our bond and love has increased each year for 6 years now. Same with his sister. I catch them going into sahmadhi states like myself when just chilling in the living room. I think they’ve felt some of the things I’ve accessed in meditation and fall into it themselves now.

This was actually the point I was kinda making. Imagine even letting go of relative and non dual notions. It’s a very different experience then strict argumentative distinctions of either or both together. Metaphorically you could say it’s almost like going from solipsism to a non dual shift. The further and deeper you go on this path the more subtle you could say it becomes.

@soos_mite_ah maybe you need less forms of help and more forms of just getting out and having fun ?

@Nahm what gave you the idea I was writing off something. Then maybe I could answer. Obviously if your pointing to “something” called experience then it would be silly for me to absolutely say it’s not there/happening since obviously “something” is happening, just not sure I’d limit it to symbols and meanings given to “experience”. Nor would I limit it to nondual, absolute or relative. Nor even limit It to inclusion of all those and Everything.

@Someone here whats a relative perspective? Really where do you find a non dual and a relative perspective? Did you capture the two in a jar? Are they different?

Good that was the intent. Did it lead to anything new, because it’s a very serious question, one I think your looking for ultimately.

@arlin afraid of getting lost in ‘what’? you lost? You found? Do you know enough to even be worried what could go wrong or right? sounds like you have a saying in a bible your afraid to break, rather then knowing if it’s even true to begin with. Youve been indoctrinated in a nondual ritual in which you believe the rules of the game are not to get stuck in illusion, to not be in separation, not to be in a dream, without even knowing what that means or if it has any connection to actuality. No different than if I told you the number one rule is to avoid space otherwise you will be living life wrong, and you going around thinking this and that about space and how to get away from it or not get stuck in it and feeling anxious it since seems to be everywhere, when in reality what I said wasn’t true to begin with.

I don’t think your a devil but I think you perhaps have made some conclusions to early about life that have been done in frustration around enlightenment and what’s possible. I’m giving you a push in that direction. live in the absolute recognition you don’t know rather then having some beliefs of why and what is possible, then it may become apparent what you didn’t notice.

@arlin you’ve gotten a lot of good answers however if you feel like it’s what actually is, then stand by it. Or do you not actually know? Stand by what is most true for you even if it means you have no idea. Which honestly is a great place to be. It may not be easy because your then left with being alone with yourself while others are saying otherwise about the world and it’s affairs, but this is where a wise man becomes.

These are some interesting conclusions but surely not “conclusive”, not coming from a man of your standards and broad reasonable analysis, no? unless of course you assume your conclusions are more valid than those you’ve said aren’t? but that would be very double standard and hypocritical and a man of your standard is not ? what would happen if you actually didn’t know either way, and lived from that blank slate.

What is what from what perspective?