Shadowraix

An alien is probably doing something for their technological advancements. But it doesn't have to be mathematics. As Leo said you can create a model for the universe in an infinite number of ways. Life is relatively similar on Earth. Makes me wonder just how different an alien species would be.

These kind of topics always get complicated because you'll find yourself switching from the nondual perspective to human perspective and so on in a single sentence. It makes unraveling what someone is saying all the more complex. Yes, the ego is just a tool or concept to draw an artificial circle around specific behaviors. Very primitive ones. The way you perceive things. "Killing the ego" is merely just the reprogramming of your brain. I can see how someone may see/actually view this as rejecting a part of yourself and demonize the ego.

I mean the simple solution to me seems to phase out animal meat with lab meat and fund lab meat development.

Take your finger and point at your third eye from a close distance. Get an interesting sensation. Not saying that means anything but its interesting to do.

If you want a really good in depth break down of how evil and the ego relate Leo's video I linked earlier about the devil does a pretty good job. That also goes well with his two videos on morality. You see, when people hurt us it threatens our ego which is constantly trying to preserve our human form. Which ultimately causes the reaction of demonizing to see ourselves as "better" than them and create this divide or distinction. Now when it comes to society the practical applications can be tricky. You can advocate for the current system if thats what you want, there's no right or wrong way to live. But the idea is to think holistically to tackle the situation from a place of unconditional love, its because when you love/accept everything for it is you and you see yourself as literally it, you are going to think very differently in how to reduce suffering for all and not just the people in your "good" bubble. I've thought about this and on a global scale it becomes tricky because most of society on SD are pretty low. It would think a huge rise in consciousness for everyone to start thinking in this holistic manner. One big thing that ends up resulting in people to have such hatred or views on the world to hurt others often can derive from trauma. Or they are lacking something from the world. The act itself is a byproduct of the root disease. We probably won't see such radical changes in our lifetime on a global scale. I am pretty sure. The original link I got it from was: www.hermetics.org/pdf/kybalion.pdf but it seems to be down at the moment. I think the page variation comes from the font size, I noticed the first one I linked had bigger text than this one. That becomes tricky as well. Ultimately you'll have realizations all your life. Given reality is infinite, an infinite amount of realizations exist. One part of the contemplation is to contemplate so much you don't know anything anymore, you break everything down to its core and see what you have left. The trickiness and possible delusion of the ego is exactly why this takes a long time. I've only truly started applying some of the things I've talked about. Currently shifting oneness into awareness and unconditional love. Leo on his blog has a video on metaphysics vs epistemology where it gets summed down that epistemology will result in the conclusion you can't know anything, unless you see, you have direct consciousness. https://www.actualized.org/insights/metaphysics-vs-epistemology Your form? Nothing! Thats your true form, is nothing. It is a formless substance. If it had form it couldn't manifest in any way possible. You see for infinity to not be faulty it must include everything which also includes you living out your life unaware of who you are. Its all the same substance but people do struggle to not get why they don't have access to total infinite intelligence or consciousness and its simply because you didn't give it to yourself. Its like a narrow stream of consciousness flowing to you from the big infinite pool of consciousness. Very very limited. Imagine in your head a war of a bunch of people fighting to protect their nation all self aware thinking beings convinced of the world they are living in. They are you, and yet they shout and demonize God without realizing their true nature. They may be bound by such an illusion you created unaware but everything you imagined was entirely intentional and you had the full paranormal power over this world. I find this to be a good analogy to compare you to infinite consciousness. You see you are experiencing everything from what its like to be you, me, a pig, whatever. But for these creations to be them means to not be aware of what you truly are from the get go. See you are separating whats going to happen from your effort. The thing is the effort or lack of effort you put in is a PART of the whole thing. If you put effort into making a change and it succeeds, that was intentional, if it fails, that was intentional, if you never put effort in at all, that was intentional. So yes it will play out in a very specific fashion but what you do is a part of how that plays out and because you are interconnected in the story it appears that you have control. The past and future doesn't exist, its all just the present moment.

Its only a monster and sadomasochistic if you see it that way Solving the relativistic dilemma of good/bad moral/immoral was something I sought to figure out for years even before I knew nonduality existed, but it was only prior to finding nonduality did I even get a solution proposed to me. If you actually go back and read the Bible with a nondual context it makes far more sense than it ever did. I'm pretty sure there are books out there that put Christianity into a nondual perspective. Nonduality was also very popular with the ancient Egyptians and greeks. (Where hermetic philosophy derives from) And considering that psychedelic use has been insanely popular throughout human history and they typically point you towards nonduality, you start to see a overall big picture in all of these ancient texts that seemingly everybody missed. You can call it a repackaged form of God but thats such a bland statement because the term "God" isn't as magical and mystical as people make it out to be. In short it can be summed down to your creator. Well remember YOU are this big infinite singularity. And that created you, so it is God. Which also means you are God. But there are so many notions and connotations people hold with the word "God" I tend to use it sparingly. Hermetic philosophy was one of my first introductions to nonduality in which it sort describes the universe as one giant living mind. Like your mind, but infinite and you are contained in it. Everything you are is a derivative of what reality is capable of. Bunch of other stuff like absolute truth and relative truth etc etc If you'd like to take a read: https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/content/books/ebooks/kybalion-a-study-of-the-hermetic-philosophy.pdf

Consciousness being fundamental, energy is consciousness. And yep. Nobody can convince you but yourself. You won't be satisfied unless you do the introspection and work to find the answers yourself.

Thats okay. I am the fire as well.

Precisely. In this instance God = consciousness God is nothing! But also everything. God = Matter = Energy = Consciousness Its all the same thing.

This always seems to be tricky. Its kind of a pain sometimes to work around language barriers. So this probably wouldn't always be an indicator of such thoughts. Its always more convenient to just type like the self exists to make expression simplified in a way everybody knows.

Wanted to chime in on this specific point. I notice a lot of thinking along the lines of "If its going to end then why even bother or be in the relationship?" At least for me I simply just live in the present. Yes a time may come where a person and their SO may split, but that doesn't make the experience spent together and growth from each other irrelevant. Not being able to live and enjoy and grow due to some deadline to me seems like living more in the future than the present.

Yes I had another look over and he was speaking in a very general sense. I was looking solely in the nondual context. My apologies. Either way, think of it this way. You are playing chess with somebody. You can think ahead maybe a few moves. Your opponent can think ahead infinitely. You laugh and shame the opponent for giving up their queen when the opponent knows the giving up of the queen was part of plan and checkmates you. You simply can't see that far ahead. While infinite intelligence could. Suffering exists. If terrorists shouldn't exist, they wouldn't. How reality is is exactly how it should be. Projecting our own ideal versions onto reality only creates more suffering when they don't align. People often use their own morals to deny aspects of reality. Activism to reducing suffering may or may not work. If it does it should of. If it doesn't it shouldn't of. The end result is always to be accepted for reduction of suffering. But if you act from a place of hatred or the like such as when people demonize, it only spells more suffering.

Then you are a demented monster! Thats still you moralizing. Funny that the link talks about avoiding reality when in actuality the general teaching is to surrender to reality. Yes it is acknowledged all is an illusion but it doesn't change how real to us it feels. And this path doesn't mean that you can't follow a path of activism for reducing suffering. But it seems that he is still stuck in your typical form of moralization and doesn't see that moralization in of itself creates more suffering! This guy is strawmanning things so hard.

Its asserting that the entire universe, all of reality is conscious. The function that cells have are a direct creation of infinite intelligence.

Simple. Infinity. It could be no other way. Infinite intelligence may be something you'll stumble upon down the line, which is imbued in infinite consciousness and by extension everything you see. Thats a whole other can of worms to unravel. But to keep it simple infinity is everything and so it couldn't be any other way. Whats happening right now is included as a part of infinity. Infinity is working as intended. Otherwise it wouldn't be infinite. Problems arise when we try to project our ideal version of reality on reality itself.

This seems to come from the nuanced meanings of enlightenment and raising consciousness.

Never argued for pacifism. You won't even get close to reducing suffering if you act on grounds of moralization because that in of itself creates more suffering! You create suffering for the people you demonize. It becomes an endless loop of hatred. Acknowledging evil exists doesn't make you evil per se (Unless you see yourself as evil) but rather thats the whole thing that perpetuates evil itself! Never said that either. But you don't need good or evil or moralization to acknowledge and reduce suffering. The label of evil is a big ego trip to separate yourself from them and to demonize and judge. And nothing is pointless. Everything is exactly as intended. Listen, I could sit here all day and explain this stuff to you, but it won't click until YOU do the contemplation to see if what im saying actually has any truth. But it looks like you haven't started digging yet. People don't want to acknowledge that yes YOU are the devil. I am the devil. We're all devils.

Its because you are seeing that as evil! You create evil by creating a bubble and sticking things in there and calling it evil. You create another and call things in there good. These bubbles will differ among everybody. You see the relativistic problem with this? If nobody is sticking things in the evil bubble, in fact just pop the bubble, then evil simply doesn't exist. Yes this means I am implying nobody is evil and nobody is good. This sort of demonizing is a trap of the ego. The devil must not know he is the devil in order to keep being one.

Your brain derives from consciousness. Matter = Energy = Consciousness See it is an assumption that all you are is the human experience you've identified with.

I would disagree with this. Consciousness and the contents are one in the same. You can create a distinction there if you'd like, but at the end of the day all distinctions must collapse, so this separation must collapse as well.

The only thing separating you from me are the distinctions you create. Without them its all just one infinite singularity. You only demonize it as a monster because you still moralize things through a very limited lens. Evil only exists because you create the concept of evil. Consciousness isn't used in the term of self awareness in this context. It is used to describe the most fundamental substance of everything. Which is nothing! If it was red, how could it be blue? If it was big, how could it be small? Both unknowable and undefinable. But you are it. Your brain and self awareness also is a product of this consciousness.

The entire human experience is just "in your head"

Consciousness is fundamental. Everything IS consciousness. The only thing separating you from anything are the distinctions you draw. Separating consciousness and the contents of consciousness is just a distinction you make that doesn't exist. I am consciousness. I am rocks, the Earth, mars, photons, everything.

And you are precisely ALL of those contents.

Its a single consciousness. You are experiencing what its like to be everything. A rock, me, you, Leo. To be you means to not be me, you see, which is why you don't have access to me. But when distinctions collapse you just have one infinite singularity. And that is you. Your ego is what creates this illusory boundary between you and other You and me talking to each other is one thing talking to itself.