Shadowraix

Being Conscious comes from our ability to self reference in terms of being able to reprogram.

Perhaps even people who are very enlightened have a comfort zone they are afraid to break.

Don't conflate relative and absolute. Illusions are useful in illusions.

Like I said, I am just speculating why gurus won't talk much about it so willy nilly.

I never denied their potential. I use them myself. They are the reason I got on this path. But I don't see a guru going out of their way to recommend such a dangerous method as compared to meditation and self inquiry. You may be one step away from seeing the truth, but you may also be one step away from damaging your mental health and the blame will be shifted to the one who recommended it. It's not smart to recommend it to just anybody.

Whatever drug you are taking, it won't result in permanent ego transcendence and/or nondual consciousness. You need to do a lot more work to do that.

Right. Very few of us are in a state of permanent nondual consciousness. Not even Leo entirely. This is why the illusion of separation can make a great tool to stop the ego from self-identifying and getting inflated. The "I am God!" half-truth can quickly become a game of narcissism. Nonduality to fuel the duality. This is why wisdom is so important. Handle knowledge with care.

I don't think many gurus are fond of the idea of temporary enlightenment to fuel the pursuit of permanent enlightenment. Psychedelics are tricky and unpredictable. Meditation is relatively more stable.

@Conrad The Kyballion is a really wonderfully written book.

Read between the lines. There is a point being made with that statement.

Be careful with that insight. "God is in the earthworm but the earthworm is far from God." - The Kyballion Keep the ego humble.

You. After all its about comparing it to your own relative goals.

Que 300mg of DXM and 500ug of LSD together. I have a massive awakening. I am mind fucked and shaken to my core in the beauty and how amazing it is. I was in a voice call sharing my insights to a friend in the trip. His mom knew Leo (Who is actually on the forums too) and so he knew about actualized. He sent me the video on comprehending the magnitude of reality and I was just mind fucked x1000 again. After sobering up I didn't quite understand what it was I had just experienced. I went back to Leo's videos and begun looking at things like his consciousness and infinite intelligence videos. I looked at all of the advanced metaphysical stuff which helped me understand. It was after that I started my journey seriously and also got to the more practical stuff like moralization.

Sorry. I'm a bit of a lens collector myself.

Perception is everything. If they deem it as harmful to their agenda they won't allow it. A government has the issue as the lawmakers only looking out for themselves. Usually they disguise that by more freedom for sake of their own freedom. Drug use of rich people is far more excused than the poor..

All this information is just a tool to get the body to do what you want it to do.

Talk about zen devilry to the highest extreme.

This article is cool if you want to know how the brain reacts to these experiences: https://gizmodo.com/scientists-unlock-mystery-of-woman-who-sees-herself-out-1538196076 The perspective is very scientific though. Nondualism perspective would be its just another experience in all of this. There would be no 'planes' separating it.

God is suffering. If it unconditionally loves itself it'll express that aspect of it. But also this plays right into the hands of the will of God. It's all been carefully crafted and accounted for.

Unconditional love and grand design are also good ones.

@Dylan Page Here you are serving the exact purpose, serving the will of God. Everything you do is doing that. Infinite unconditional love could not be so without pain and suffering. Unconditional love is a very radical thing. It is not optimal for serving your ego. Which is also intended. There is not a single thing that has not been accounted for. But you sit here and judge the very thing you created...which is again all a part of the plan. It is quite literally perfect. Even your discontent with your higher self. All of this is beyond rationality and logic.

It's only unconscious if you are not conscious of the risk you are taking. The mere act of consuming the substance is also putting yourself in danger. You are always putting yourself in danger. The difference here is the risk of breaking the law to learn from a psychedelic experience is not worth it to you. It is for me.

Beating a dead horse, my friend. Its clear as day that the route you suggest is not the route many are interested in.

Definitely. Creator and creation are one in the same. What is it drawing the lines between God and human

Yeah I plan to work my way up. I think beyond 1000ug there comes a point of diminishing return. We use our sober state as the base for differentiating how intense the experiences are, but when you hit doses that high it starts to feel like over-saturation. I will admit my 1000ug experience was acid of considerable higher quality. So that might be why 1500ug felt the way it did for me but I don't really desire to experiment that high again to find out lol