Andrea Maffioletti
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Andrea Maffioletti posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Hi, This question comes from the last video of Leo "Guided Exercises For Understanding Infinite Consciousness", where Leo says that all it exists is Consciousness and that the division some teachers do like Waking state, Sleeping state, Deep sleep and Turya does not make sense. Some others ancient teachers or modern ones (like Bentinho Massaro) talks about 5 stages: the Gross Body, Subtle Body, Causal Body, Great Causal Body and the Absolute. They say that God/Consciousness, that in this classification is the Great Causal Body, is actually not the final stage of awakening. They say that God/Consciousness is a feature, a quality, a state of something prior to it, that is, the Absolute. The Absolute in its pure state has not made itself conscious yet to experience its own creation and the quality of being conscious comes later, together with other feature of the Absolute like Love and Intelligence. I would like to ask you Leo whether you could actually discard the state of the Absolute where there is no Consciousness. I am aware that everything in existence must be Consciousness and nothing else in existence can be other that That. But could not indeed God/Consciousness be seen as a quality of something more prior that God/Consciousness itself? To use Peter Ralston words: "Is it not God/Consciousness just another distinction and so a relative "thing"? Thank you, Andrea -
Andrea Maffioletti posted a topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would like to ask you this question I cannot wrap my mind around it. Physicality is an illusion given by our sense perceptions. The only real element in our daily experiences are perceptions that arise within Consciousness. Since the body, as a physical entity does not really exist, how does Consciousness manifest itself under the form of perceptions? Or how perceptions ( 5 senses and thoughts) arise from Consciousness? Thanks in advance for anyone answering this question. Best, Andrea -
Andrea Maffioletti replied to Andrea Maffioletti's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
First of all I would like to thank you guys for your time and the clarity of your answer. @Victor Mgazi Thank you for your answer. I came to the realization that origin of my question and therefore the origin of perceptions is the mind, a thought. Not a general thought but a really particular thought: the one that holds the belief of being someone, of being a separate entity perceiving and existing in a external world. This thought is the one the create the illusion of me existing. This thought carries the believe that I am a human being, I was born, I did this and that, I have a family and so on. I realized these are simply concepts, present only in my mind and nowhere else. It represents my personal conditioning. My existence and personal life is based on a thought that beliefs that it is someone, doing and participating into the world. But it is simply a thought, no one is behind the eyes. I realized that Mind is the tool that Consciousness uses to interact with itself and to sustain itself, giving the illusion that different objects are interacting; it is how separateness is created from oneness. It is incorrect to claim that there is no body but only perceptions. In reality, there is no body, no perceptions, only Consciousness. There is no sound, I am the sound; there is no tree, I am the tree. And Consciousness looks like exactly how the world looks like. The substance by which everything is made is Consciousness. It is all mind stuff. Mind-blowing. Genius. Please feel free to leave other comments that might help me to go even deeper. Thank you @Leo Gura for the huge amount of work and insights you are sharing every week. Andrea -
Andrea Maffioletti replied to Andrea Maffioletti's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I realised that everything I know of the world are not objects, that there is not an external world made out of matter. The only real experience present are perceptions. For instance, there is no a tree out thete but simply the seeing of the tree. In other words, objectivity is an illusion and all exist is subjective experiences. If these subjective experiences are shared, they become objective. Then I realised that these subjective experiences or perceptions are only possible to exist in presence of something/someone that knows them, that is Consciousness. So, ontologically Consciounsess is the source in which perceptions take place. My question was how or through which process perceptions arise within Consciousness, since it cannot be through a body because the body is an illusory object. Hope it is more clear. Best, Andrea