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I readed book 4 agreements,and i was really impresed ,don Miguel Ruiz is amazing man. He talks about dream(ego),in really interesting way. And,my question is,is it ok to enjoy your life story and not kill the ego? because,it is your creation,you see that is dream,and you can create that dream how you like,he gave us tools how to do it. Zorba the Budhha, is greath video on youtube,combine west and east. Put awerness into your life,and live life how you like. I was fucked up with that idea of enlightenment, constantly thinking about it and lost motivation for every action, but Migel explains really good,and i think that i understood what is all about.

@Harvey If there is no me,why i have passion for something? There are no one to need something...

@FindingPeace I like to remeber nice moments from my life,you can realy enjoy memories,in my opinion,memory is for some reson, to leatn from past experience,...You know that it is dream, and you create in way that you want,if something goes bad,you know that is dream. Ego is there for a reson... What we are,we dont know,cant explain with words,but like Don Miguel said,every of us is artist that create masterpiece of art(that is our life story),and with tools(1.be impecable with words,2.dont take things personaly,3.dont make assumptions,4.do your best) you create your life how you want.It is really nice if you have dreams and works towards them. To live life and just meditate isnt complite life. To live life day to day isnt best idea,you have to earn some money,to have something to survive.if you have job that you really love,and work for your dreams,and in other hand,you realise nature of ego,you can limit suffering,and you will have complete life. And,talking about enlightenment,is so fucking stupid. I was in depression because of that,just do meditation,that cant be exolained with words. But,if i have no ego,what life would it be? Are you enlightened ? If you are not,how can you talk about that? You can have opinions ofcourse,but you know that or you dont. Why than ego is here? You can enjoy story,you can suffer story, but you choose what you want. Only problem with enlightenment is that i lose motivation and focus for stuff. Just not interested anymore,and that makes me sad. Sadhguru said,that,for 99% enlightened people,moment of enlightenment and moment of death are the same. I will meditate,chase my dreams,and do my best,i just cant thinking about that stuff enymore,soo tired thinking about that. It is time for action,not for theory.

4 agreements is fantastic book ,does fifth agreement is about truth? Don Miguel Ruiz is amazing person,i like him really,and i will read this book for sure,but some opinions on this?

Yesterday,i was been at house of my college friend,and, i dont usally smoke weed, but, we start smoking(this is second time that i try weed)...He has also have projector in his room,and he play on projector some music video,and thought appears about meditation and enlightenment...i just start to really focus on that music spot on projector,I started to laugh so much, i was in now ,complete ,become so spontanious, i dont think about myself,absorbed in now... unique experience..and in one moment,i looked in sunblind(i hope google translate do well :D) ,and saw light of the sun which is moving trough small holes ,and that is like i was experienced some image from childhood ,something warm,really nice.Maybe this is not true,or maybe this isnt about enlightenment (third eye whatever) ... but this is so similar to what Leo or other people talk about enlightenment.Can someone gives me perspective on this,is this enlightenment experience? This is really unique experience...Sorry for my shitty knowlidge of english .

Living life and do try everything is waste of life really,didnt master anithing(be greath in something),didnt have amazing felathionship,didnt help others,...not to pursuit in life-no dissipointment,but,for me,that is so wrong, meditation isnt purpose of life and only thing,it is the tool for inner world,and it is also outer world,if you meditate you will be more efective...okey we are in universe,we exist,but lot of stuff to explore,to go to limits,you just sit all your life and do nothing ,why are you living? Enlightenment teachers have seminars,and youtube channels ,earn money , ... they dont just sit and do nothing...

You think that for first time you will be really good,or be satisfyed ,when you do that for much more times you will know what you want from that and what you like. And also,we also have some kind of instict, we know what we want,but maybe we are confused . This forum will not give you answers. You are in charge,in life,you can do what ever you want and feels right for you.

Do you think that trough sexual expression you fell authentic, because,im male, and,when i talking to some girl in that way(that i like),i feel positive energy,and,when is conversation good, i think that that leads me to core of myself,of masculine guy...but i also heard from this forum that sex can be bad,and women are distraction to enlightenment and to cut relationships and live lifestyle minimalism ,but also can reach enlightenment trough sex...lot of stuff. I'm still young,and, i want to shift my focus on this area of life(i dont have much expirience),also on my college ,but this negative words on this stuff slowing me down and im less motivated. I feel good when i do aproach,but,often bulshiting myself to not approach because of bunch excuses,and this negatives are also be my excuse...I hope that relationship with right girl can bring lot of inspiration to perform better my college,and making art,and think that metaphorically said, every warrior need some girl to rest and have inspiration to fight. What do you think about that,and,is it possible to reach something special from yourself by having lot of expirience with women,and finding that one right for you,if is it posibble to find someone special,or is it just hormons running trough our bodies and this is need that every animal have?

Hahah niice Thanks

Okey,nice. But consider this option. Sex also means new life. Animals also do sex,this is energy of creation. This is so true to me. And it is important. Animals dont have social condition and do not feel wierd,or ashamed,or some kind of negative emotion. Why ignore that? If you dont feel needy , greath! This will help. And pe playfull. Be with girls,hurt yourself,fell that, fall in love,feel that. Very big problem from this actualized,we constantly looking for answer. What should i do? Tell me,what should i do? Try by yourself,that is real actualization. My invitation,try by yourself,be with some girls,and you will know. Really, you do not have much time ,because you will not be young for many years. And when you try that and you are not passionate for that,you decided what is most important to you. @psychonaut

What do you think about blueprint? I considering to start applaying that in my life,do you read that stuff?

Im stuck and lost now. Maybe i will stop watching somone else and do what someone tells me . I was really happy about doing jim,nutrition,university,start to be better person,and than Leo started videos about enlightment. I m not against that,but,how you are sure that you will be really happy and everything will be amazing when you become enlightened and how it is posibble. I just lost my productivity,and also is a problem when Leo talks ,every video he talks about that we are wrong,living hell,you are this you are that,neurotic... I just didnt even think about that stuff,and have focus on my thing,now ,lost motovation to do stuff that makes me happy,because they are not important... usless... I like to fight for myself,to be best version of myself but this puling me down. Maybe to stop watching videos ,do my stuff and meditate...? Problem is about to much theory,content,do this ,do that,than that isnt worty...Maybe it is time to do want i want to do with my life... Also,why just to much thinking about enlightenment, chasing that but that is here,in now, i cant even be present because i thinking about that. Do what you love,meditate to charge yourself,isnt that complicated?

Yes,suddenly ,everyone is competent to talking about enlightenment,but no one is enlightened. How can you explane that we are never born,who than writing this message? And also,people are oppsesed of death,but every day we die(fall a sleep) , that is death...mini death... and real death is like that, but we didnt woke up...when you sleep,you dont know that you sleeping ... Living for 5000 years for example is curse,i dont want that,who want that? We gonna die,so what? That is good.

Im really glad to hear that,and you are approach is so helpful. I now that i cant take this anymore, and noticed that im depressed and unmotivated on daily basis... But i was really going well ,year ago... also said ,this enlightenment probably isnt something bad,if is something posible,why people pursuit that if it is bad anyway,this actualization is about feeling greath in your skin... I hope that i will find way from this situation,because,depression isnt way to live life, lack of drive is my main problem...Thank you,for advice,im tired from : "they are no person ,why to be sad" ,why people oppsesing with that anyway?

Thanks for answer. Problem is that,know i know about enlightenment,it is hard to pursuit other stuff becouse of lack motivation,somtimes i just dont want to do something(but it is important) . Sometimes you dont want to do something that you love,for example,training,and you have that extra push,motivates you,but enlightenment is about "who is that who wants to train?" And kills my motivation. Also is talking that goals isnt important,but i disagree,if you want to be healthy,you must to organise yourself,train regulary,and you must have plan and goal to keeps motivation... Or enlightenment is for guys who acomplish lot of things in life,and... what is next? But my logic is that what you are doing is important and give all yourself,one day you dont be able to do that...Maybe i misunderstod enlightenment but "kill the ego" isnt posible,you need person to be in this world . Maybe is that some change in mind ,not actually kill ego...Meditation is really good and i will do that,but, something in wnlightenment is wrong. It is really logical that we are dont exist,and that are toughts,but,is it better to create better yourself. Killing your dreams for me is kind sad... i started actualization because that i know about this life is purposless,and you are here and you are gonna die... im kinda stressed about that and cofused,and some other people of my age are happy and dont even know about this everything...try to meditate for 30 days,and do stuff and we will see

Just try to cut useless shit. Do things what is really matter to you. For me,we arent here to just sit and do nothing, find balance,cut all low quallity stuff and habbits. That is my opinion on that

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Hi guys, i just want from you to offer some perspective,personal experience or some advice,to this topic. The short story is that, i have struggle when i was a kid, social anxiety,and i was maybe to afraid to express emotions.But i was excited when i started high school,and hope that things will change. When started high school,i was alone,and also too scary to express myself,and because of that,i was just really disappointed . And later ,in high school, i aclimated myself,i was accepted,but,just lost my emotions, dont have deeper connection to anyone. I just lost my interest in girls, but I always wanted some relationship. I had just a little expirience with girls,but i just didn't have something deeper. Than i started college,and change my life alot because of actuallized,and other guys of personal development,and be like on steroids,and do more approach, with little success,but i was force myself, because im just lack of atraction and dont know even what i want. And finally fall in love with one girl,and she is friend of mine,but because of little experience, i just do poor and failed. Now,im in second year of college,and kinda deppressed. Im not bad looking guy,actually ,im good looking,at least ok,i have money, but im too picky and i lost my enthusiasm for that,also maybe afraid of relationship,and strange to me to be with somebody. I was alone for most of my life,that is too long,and kinda forgot that area of life,but i was socially active,just in romantic way have had struggle. For my birthday brother buy me a guitar,and i always wanted to play. And, when i played guitar, i realized,holly shit! Life isnt boring like that, and i also have areas of life to need to improve,to also do other stuff that i wanted. And,this summer i just want to beat my limitation belifes,and that loneliness.But, need to feel again enthusiastic about that,and improve my sex drive. Im tired of complaining, and regretting,...regrets are there but fuck regrets ,just tired of that shit. It will be painful, to go for things that i almost give up,but lets play. Like i said, if you have something to offer to place fire into me,to like girls more,share it.

We live like we are inmortal,not aware that one day we will die. Not looking at that thing like something bad,and not oppsesing to do more and more stuff. Just be happy that you are alive,just that. And every one around you is alive,one day we will not get up. Isnt that amazing, life around you,it is amazing. And ,if you are depressed about something, just stop breathing ,for period of time, breath will become most important thing. We want to live, our life purpose is life itself.All we have is that,just a millisecond in time of universe . I maybe feel enlightenment expirience,such love, everything seems beautiful . Just think of it and i said to myself OMG,but also try to feel that.

Amen.

Elliot Hulse is for you. Do the things that you afraid to do,it is not about how you feel at the moment,and what you get,it is about growing courage. Belive me,i sad from my experience,ordnary guy just like you.

Take this also, for example,watch this videos,he is enlightened ,very very inteligent man.

Man,same kind of problem! If you want something,you must decide, but how can you decide when Leo talks one thing today,but other tumorrow and sems like big confusion! And this point means that, now, you must look in yourself,and trust your gut. What YOU want? We constantly asking others to help us,guide us, no one can help you exept yourself. If you dont know,try stuff. My advice,this is for sure for every people: Meditate,train(most important), healthy diet,and build discipline for your work,or school or whathever... to not distract you. And when you are healthy person,you can think wiser. Ultimate life purpose is that you are alive,your life itself,wonderful thing. But you have also stuff that you love. Belive me,you know what you want,follow resistance ,when you feel resistance,try that stuff,do things that you afraid to do(this is powerful).. Try that,find balance betwen becoming and being, and try to enjoy every moment. That Isnt interested when someone said this is the key and you follow that...you will find a way.

Hello everyone, i just thinking about this and that is my main problem. And,i was kinda upset when i was heard about enlightenment, and asking others for help,and i found answer "The question is: what do YOU want",and i just stop for a moment,and felt that i need to look to my life,and my experience. Im young guy,just started to folow this site befor, two years maybe, and i was excited. Life purpose just give me passion to my life,that that kind of job exist,and i started to belive. Also ,other things have huge improvments, in training ,and diet,and i took it really serious .That was my not main but supporting life purpose. And i was felt good like never before. And,just came videos about enlightenment,and kill ego stuff... I just start to be sad... Asked myself : Why just all of this? We are gonna die and that is it,i even dont exist. And i started to be depressed. Im not consistent in gym, grades in college sucks , and, stuff just isnt good. And i think finally that i know what is enlightenment. Enlightenment is when you play tennis, when you walk along river,playing guitar,meditate... when you are in HERE ,with your body and mind. If you are doing things that you like,in that state of "focus", you are enlightened,lose your indentity ,you dont think about something else,when you playing guitar for example. And people in this forum talking that life purpose isnt that important, enlightenment is the only important. But ,you see, you pursuit enlightenment with your life purpose.Best feeling ,when i was doing my thing,and take care of myself, and i was so greathful , to stop and smell the roses ,to just be here, to feel... Amazing. For me is really stupid, to just talk to much about enlightenment, that is pointles, and to listen how only that is important,and you cant go forward ,because,this is the only truth... If i dont learn,expend myself, be healthy , take care of myself ,earn money to survive, what kind of life i will have? You see...enlightenment is when you value every moment, when you are at school ,be at school (not in some other place in your mind),when you want to talk to cute girl in the club,do it now, not tomorow ,with facebook, if you want something do it now,not waiting some other day... If you handle shit,you just cant ignore some thoughts ,because,you know that you mast pursuit that...but,be here,enjoy every moment, why go to cave??? in mountains??? So silly ,why give up on things, enlightenment isnt magic pill, that solves everything ,you still have to fight for your life , not every one live in america, they are some tuff countries ... Enjoy the journey ,dont kill your dreams , build you life at that point that you can meditate when you want ,and how you want. Oppsesing with who you are,and that your ego is bad, or shits like that, is just not nesesery . When i have something important to do,i just dont think about stupid stuff , you are what you are.Be your best version , empty field of awernes is cold name for some human . This moment is everything that we have, but, if you want that moment to be peaceful , must work for that. Time when you spend in pursuing life purpose ,inst spend vainly. That work maybe see some other people,when you die,and be inspired with that . We live once ,we just must do what we can ,but also prisiate the moment. Didnt master anything in life is so sad, why are you born anyway? So what, everything is ilusion,who cares? My invitation, do whatever you want,be best at it,be succsesful( ignoring our ambition is silly ),but.. be aware of present, enjoy it ,smell it, be whit it, feel it,that has no price. And bunch of people when read this will start talk of enlightenment and sad that im not right, that is just illusion ,this and that...Do something that your grandchildren will be proud of. Becoming and being is just like ing and jang ,night and day,cold and warm... isnt complete without eachather. Found what you love, and enjoy every moment of that journey !!

I agree with you what you say,but you just took pieces of my text and now that lost true meaning. I dont try this , i just said that, i think that i finally understand enlightenment,i just said ,dont just try to achive that, looking in the future,always try to search something in tomorow,that is oposite ,enlightenment is part of the big picture,if you have all of your money and you are unhappy in this moment ,it is useless, but you cant be happy if you are hungry ,or have some problems that pulls you down. Yes,it is interesting. But to much thinking of it,is it good,is it bad, is it right for me, it is opposite from what is enlightenment actually.Some people are more enlightenment than people that know about that. Enlightenment is simple present,now, in that state past dont exist and future dont exist,but that is not final destination,that is it what it is. It is always be. I don't encourage people from that,just said that for that ,you dont need hundrets of videos,or to read many books, that is also trap. Everybody knows what it is,but problem is to be aware of it. When you sit and watch sky,dont thinking about problems,that is enlightenment . But if your house burnning you cant be in that state,you must face your problems ( bad example but you know what i mean) .Enlightenment isnt secret pill,and it isnt grand secret ,we all know that,and all of us expirience it. My english is bad, i cant sometimes explain everything that i want to say in right way,struggle is real , i just use words that i know,im limited.