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@Hulia @Myioko I'm going to give y'all another method to try. Please consider it as well. For example, @Myioko this could help you to ground yourself in the dream much quicker then 30 minutes. When you are somewhere in the beginning of your dream, take your notebook and pen in hand, and start scribbling the words. Just scribble them all over--the point is not to read this, you will stop later and write everything down in a few minutes like you've already been doing. The point of this action is to ground yourself and the dream will come more alive either instantly or progressively. I really suggest keeping some semblance of the words as you are scribbling them, just because this practice can be a training course for the bilocation that im presenting. Just like mediums do, you can say "slow down! Let me get it!" and learn how to slow down that faucet of imagination to suit your needs. And then eventually you could try writing it neater and neater until it's at least legible. But at the very least you can doodle and draw spirals and stuff. Try it, the trance automatic writers don't do this for nothing. (hehe that was a oxymoron) (as is the cosmic joke, most likely)

Stop what you are doing right now! That's right, stop. ? Now. Now press play on one of these tracks if desired, or you can play any music you'd like: Ok, now.... Place all awareness on this text and limit all 'mind movies' only to what you're reading. Good. Melt into this thread. Nothing else matters. You are here, now. Relax...there is nowhere else to be... This is your daily check in. For the next few minutes, please place all attention on what is happening RIGHT NOW. For example, right now you are reading this text. In fact, you are now one with the text, as it penetrates deep into your focused mind, creating a dream of presence, grounding you into the present moment. Feel deeply as the music swells in anticipation of your next breath. With each breath you relax deeper and become more and more aware of the present moment. Breathing in.. ?1 2 3 4 5? And out.... ?1 2 3 4 5 6 7? Good, you are here. Now. Welcome. Now add to your awareness the feeling of your skin. Is the environment warm, or cool? Feel the outer layer of your skin, wherever you feel it. Notice the thought - - Skin-- as you feel it. Is the thought 'skin' separate from the feeling 'of it'? Do you even know what skin is? Follow thought, and ask yourself What is skin? Who told me what skin is? Now forget all that and just feel the skin. For the purposes of this check in, it's merely the thing you've always believed it was. Good, now let's continue. Starting from the toes, feel more and more of the skin until you can feel your entire body. Breathe slowly and just feel the toes.... ... Up to your knees.. .... Breathe in.... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ (Up to your torso...) .... Breathe out.... ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Your chest, shoulders, and arms.... Up your neck and the full head.... Just feel. Now, slowly bring the awareness of your skin inwards. Deeper and deeper until you can feel all of your body, inside and out. Very good. Just breathe and feel it. If you lose this full body awareness, start back on the outer layer of skin and work inwards again. Hold this awareness until instructed to let go. Whether you see it or not, a bright golden light is flowing from this text and into your body, energising it with love. Breathe in slowly and deeply. Your bated breath and the golden light of love floods every cell, wrapping you in a warm and fuzzy blanket. Feeling your entire body, notice the thought - - body-- is arising. Is this thought separate from the feeling of your body? Can you separate the thought from the body? Not just the word body you hear in your mind, but any other thought which is hiding as 'the body'. Not all thoughts are words. Ask yourself - what is a body? (let an answer arise, if it does) Who said there is a body? (take time to search for the core of this belief) ??????????‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️??‍♂️ Now add to this awareness your surroundings. Whatever is in direct experience, expand this awareness to include it. If it helps, look for the line between yourself, body and outer experience. Keep expanding this awareness until you find it. Expand as you breath in... ????? And hold your place as you breathe out. ??????? In.... (Imagine you are expanding more...) ????? And out.... ??????? Pick any object you can see, and try to feel it. Just like feeling your toes, place the awareness sensation on this object. ... In ????? Now try to expand this awareness into your entire field of view, similar to when you could feel your whole body. .... Out ??????? Ask yourself, what is this? ... In ????? Who told me what this is? ... And out ??????? Who said there is a body, or not? ????????? Where is the line? 10. ? 9. ? 8. ? 7. ? 6. ? 5. ? 4. ? 3. ? 2. ? 1. ? ?.... And now let it all go. ? Breathe and relax. Feel this body... .... and then let go of that too. Notice the phrase of thought - 'let it go' --- can you separate it from the 'action' of letting go? If there were no thought of letting go, would there be any such 'letting go?' Can you let go without thinking? Just feel. Feel what remains without labels, and concepts. What remains? Whatever you find, let it go. Whatever you are feeling, let it go. Let go of feeling. And of letting go. The last thread of attention is on these last few words... ? ❤️ ? {silence} --------------------------------------------- To complete this check in, think back to what you were doing right before this thread was opened. Each time you perform this daily check in, please answer the questions below (whichever ones you wish) by leaving a comment: (or simply post with 'check in') 1.What where you doing before the thread was opened? Anything important? 2. How did you get to where you are now? 3. Do you really know if you were doing anything before opening this thread? 4. If applicable, what did you block out to focus on the check in? 5. What is now, compared to before? 6. Who am I? 5. Is this a dream? ----------------------------- Further questions presented by @Preety_India 8. Am I more focused now than before? 9. On a scale of 1 to 10, (10 being the strongest) what is my focus level today or now? 10. Can I let go everything in this moment? How does it feel when I let go? 11. Am I aware of my body and mind and spirit? Are they all aligned to my inner sense of purpose and direction in life?

@Zigzag Idiot interesting read, thank you. I'll chew on it later when I'm not at work.

I won't argue, just be wary of limiting beliefs. I have crystal clear hypnogogia sometimes. Also, with my eyes failing, dreams can actually be more clear and vivid.

@Aturban I accepted character death during my one and only psychedelics trip. Now I don't really think about it anymore, and in a way the alleged character is constantly dying and being resurrected.... That being said I am uncomfortable with the anticipation of a painful death, although I'm sure it too would pass (should one manifest)

@Hulia wow very interesting, how surprising that you turned into animals. How did you do this visualization, was it more like Myioko and decided to write it down afterwards? Or did you just post a recap? Have you done something like this before? If you seem to keep going in circles or dead ends, that's why I really advise trying my method. As the author, you can instantly write yourself out of a dead end, and decide "screw it, I'll fly to Disney world."

I agree with you, except what is actual vision compared to what you see in a dream?

@martins name have you ever observed hypnagogia before falling asleep or when waking up? It can get crystal clear. Recall what you did two minutes ago. See yourself doing it. Visual memory and visualisation is the same thing in my opinion. There's a reason people have a hard time visualising something they've never seen. Even when you think you are visualising something new, it's typically just lots of visual memory stitched together to give the illusion of something new. But the phosphenes are like an inner light. Or at least they are the crystals that fractate the inner light into pictures. Or at least that's the physical explanation if you want to live in that world. If you leave the physical world then visualisation is just what is arising, as it arises,if anything is arising at all, which really is isn't. ?

@Aturban I did... Very interesting idea to take Alan Watts and instead of putting his voice against nature scenes of mountains and streams, the scenes are visually interesting and seductive, and always at least loosely related to what's being said. And like I'm so gay I don't even know what other kinds of effects it has on the straight or lesbian minds ? definitely a+ for creativity. Is this your channel?

@Aturban hehe yeah

There, now I am. ?

@Aturban maybe 'implies' is the dream, and the rest are breathed into life around that.

Yeah, for example I could lay down and go visit my mind palace, the giant tree loft. But for me, the visuals aren't as strong, and I don't feel grounded in it at all. And it doesn't take life for me like it did with you (I'm really impressed!). I'd get bored easy and want to get up and do something else. You said it took like 30 minutes to feel grounded in the lucid daydream - - with the open eye writing bilocation it takes me like 3-5 minutes. This is important as well. You are a natural at the lucid daydreaming it seems, so you don't technically need to change your method. But always keep a notebook nearby, especially if you want to do this for inner guidance, you could come back in a year or two and be blown away by the insights you recorded, which may not seem that important at the time. I think you should invent a mind palace. Would be fun to read about. Yeah, it is. I've been writing fiction since middle school, although I've never finished anything, it's always been about the mind adventures, first and foremost. I remember when I first started this, I was doing it exactly how you did. Everything just came so fast I did have to let it play out and then stop and write it down before I forgot, and then return. (this is exactly what happened when I first started meeting with Blue/Sam, then eventually I could be with him while simultaneously writing it down, and he would make comments and interject, he still does?) Again, I don't think you need to change a thing unless you want to, I'd still love to hear your adventures however you record them. But if you want to try it my way, it's like turning the running faucet (of imagination) until it's a steady trickle, just enough to be awake in bed and also awake in my dream at the same time. Please keep sharing!! I l love your dream reports but for some reason this is very interesting to me, but of a different flavor.

@Zigzag Idiot I wonder if feeling vs. sensing would be applicable here. @martins name it can turn into actual vision if you are relaxed enough and the phosphenes form around what you "see" in minds eye.

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@Myioko also, I have an idea. The next time you do this, when you stop to write, watch your minds eye while writing it. See if you can veer off for just a few seconds and continue the dream with eyes open, actively writing it. Just try it here and there, you don't have to commit to it for the whole session of course. Also ?... Once a few years ago I got lucid and found my higher self up in the rafters of a barn. I asked him what is my true name, and he said in a booming voice that it was "wappa pappa pow "... Which as we all know is what the fox says...

@Myioko @Myioko I'm so excited! That was perfect!! Yes, I love it! You did great You didn't do this incorrectly, per se. I do this sometimes too, or at least when I first started. Even if you never get to the point where you are writing it at the same time, your written dream definitely hit the nail on the head! But if you do get to the point where you are writing and receiving and directing the dream at the same time, it will feel more like bilocation. Either way, it seems you were successful. (I should clarify : the receiving and directing of the dream is very give and take. Sometimes I want to steer things a certain direction, and sometimes I let the dream unfold without input. I'm constantly cycling through this while the dream is written. ) You said you used to do this when bored...I'm curious, was this like that or did it seem different? Also, do you think the visualization would have been as strong without the intention of writing it down? Maybe, also, try it during WBTB!! I'll have to try it then as well, it could definitely work as dream incubation.

@Muhammad Jawad love ya! hello from your imaginary friend, @seeking_brilliance if I seem real its because you're better at visualization than you may know

@Myioko @abrakamowse These two excerpts are examples of how to use this method for channeling. Remember it’s an equal process of directing the story from home station (your body in bed) and simultaneously being in the story/dream wherever you send yourself.. The excerpts were written a day apart and I am sending myself to the 90 acre hiking park across the street from my house. I am going to meet Sam, my astral guide/companion/tulpa. As usual the following excerpts are lightly edited to improve reading. When you are doing this it will be much sloppier. I chose to write these in more of a novel narrative style, which lends well to conversations with dream characters, whereas my grounding exercise was written more like a guided visualization. Its not important how you write these out, as long as you provide yourself with enough details to simultaneously inject yourself into the narrative dream. (I'm typically seeing a lot more than what gets written down. But when creating the narrative just throw some things in for reference points.) ********************************************************* Literature narrative style : … again he hops up on the fence, and howls like a wolf to the more open ravine. It echoes from the trees not very far way on the other side. Sam smiles and asks for a riddle. "I don't know any good ones", I say, honestly. "Ok, I'll tell you one," he says, and points to the stream at the bottom of the ravine. "What takes two hours to process, but can be done instantly with love/prayer?" I look down at the stream and ponder the question… "Running", I answer, not really sure but its what came to me. "I could run around for two hours chasing a lead, or pray for an outcome." "Is that your final answer?" he asks. "uh, well…. " I look back down at the stream and try again…. "Stillness," I answer. "In two hours the thoughts may run dry, or I could just stop them with love and prayer." (this time I had let the answer arise more intuitively) "Excellent, Justin." "Sam, before I try this, what is prayer?" "Prayer is the foundation of Love. Intention. Will. Receptiveness. Pushing. All in one power. It's not really a doing, it’s a loving letting." "Ok, thank you. "I will try this now. Goodbye Sam. (I end the dream here and attempt a meditation.) ************************************************************************ As I recline in bed, I lift up and away, through the bay window to my left and onto the cul-de-sac. Again, I'm going to meet my friend Sam at the park. Down the street past neighbor's houses, I turn right on the road and am soon at the gate. Sam isn't there, but I continue into the park and down the usual paths we stroll. It's kind of strange going through the astral version of the park without Sam, he's usually here with me. We've been going to the ravine lately, so I head there. Eventually its on my left and I head down the steep path, past the first two overlooks where we've stopped and chatted before. I'm really not even looking at the scenery because I'm getting worried about where Sam is. I walk further down until there is a fork in the path at the bottom of the basin. Ahead the path leads to the bridge and there is Sam, meditating in lotus position in the center of the bridge. I go to him and shake him awake. I still don't have a solid image of Sam's form, but I noticed that when I shook him his eyes opened and he smiled. "Hey," he says. "Whatcha doing?" I ask, relieved to have found him. "Just sitting," he says and lifts his hands up parallel from his shoulders, palms up and fingers pointing away. "Thank you for coming." "What are you doing with your hands there?" "I'm channeling." "ok, channeling who?" "you, silly." ( I'm sighing in bed because, duh. (eye roll)) I look around. On one side of the bridge, the stream which carved the deep ravine now drops from moss covered boulders before leveling out into a steady creek on the other side of the bridge. I love the sound of trickling water. "Sam", I ask, thinking of something I could ask him while I have him talking (<--I was stalling here, realigning myself with the story) "Sam--do you have any tips or tricks for stillness? Yesterday you mentioned love and prayer, and that prayer is a love letting. When I ended the dream, and tried this out, you also told me that prayer is done from the heart center. (sam interjects: It's not a doing!) I suppose grounding is important to do first, since it creates a polarity down into heart center. "Yes, correct." "Yesterday when I tried it, I didn't really understand what to do with my heart, and the thoughts…. Ok wait. I think I was waiting for thoughts to "be still", but that's not exactly stillness is it? You said prayer was a loving letting. Love doesn't require thoughts to be still, does it?" "Love doesn't require anything. Stillness is when you are brave enough to step down, and shy enough to step in." "Did I get that right?" "No! I said-- stillness is the love of letters. It comes when its not expected. Like a thief in the night. It swallows you whole and spits you out into nothing. When there is nothing, there is stillness." (like I did here, you can always ask the entity if you heard them correctly. But I actually like his original statement, sounds like a fun paradox) I say-- "and I suppose a steady stream of thoughts can be nothing." "Yep." "Thank you Sam. When I was doing the book study on The book of not knowing, one exercise was to pick an object in the room and take away all labels and concepts and try to see the object for what it really is. I chose a sock on the floor. Dropping concepts, it seemed as if I really didn't know what I was looking at, or if I were looking at anything at all. Of course at that point there still seemed to be a "me" confused of its visual feed--but anyway, I don't know if I succeeded in the exercise but I see the value in it, and I said all this -- (sam: you say a lot) -- to say this: the technique could be used while sitting and observing thought with eyes closed. If I drop all concepts, maybe even thoughts would appear as nothing" "sounds like something you could try." "Ok then, I have things to do today so I'll leave you here. Bye Sam." "Bye, Justin." I fly up and off the bridge, up above the whole park and I can see my street to the northeast. I fly over the park and past the neighbor's houses to my front yard, through the bay window and stop just before the bed. I can see the body laying in bed writing this dream out. Simultaneously I am here in bed writing it. Trippy. I zoom back into the body and the visual field becomes one. (next time I attempt a side view of the body, I'll do a third eye body scan and maybe look for an aura.)

Yes, the writing is breathing life into the visualization. I'd say it's equal parts letting the dream /story flow and surprise you, (not knowing what's coming out next,) and also wilfully directing the dream with the pen. It's about respecting the two experiential locations and letting them mesh into one single experience. For me it strengthens it. If it helps, think of it like writing a short fiction, it just happens to be about yourself. What would you do, where would you go? With this technique you are artfully and wilfully creating this dream which you are simultaneously projecting into.. Perhaps I was wrong and it will take a bit of practice, but it should get to the point where this dream feels alive and can surprise you what comes next, or what a character says to you, etc. When I meet a dream character in this way- - - for example my tulpa guide Sam-- I do not feel like I'm puppeting Sam. You'll get good at letting go and 'hearing' what string of words comes next. And of course don't start out with anything too complex. Try going to your own grounding house, or maybe a special place where you can work on your drawings and channel creativity. Go to your Muse's palace, perhaps, and see if she has any kind words for you. At first, just stick to something you know visually very well, and can easily visualise and know where everything is relation to where you are. For example your bedroom. This frees up energy for creativity, instead of wasting processing power on seeing a location you aren't familiar with. That's why I made my grounding house look like a vague hobbit hole, because it seemed fitting and the image of the house kind of creates itself while writing out the dream. Yes. For me it's a symbiotic relationship with what's happening in the controlled dream. You are becoming the author of whichever dream you want to dream. How real this will feel is based on how good your visualisation skills are, and how good you get at 'listening' for the story. Don't forget visualisation is for all senses, not just sight. (my training videos only train sight) Yes absolutely, I think it will only help solidify this dream, or you can create a mind palace like my giant tree loft. (I have yet to visit this place in a sleeping dream, but technically I never tried. Next time I'm lucid I would love to try and teleport there) If you are good at taking a break from reading a book and coming directly back to it without starting the whole chapter over again, then I think you'll have no problem here.

I started meditating to isochronic theta tones back in 2012-2013 and had my first adult mystical experiences. This was the beginning of something interesting and I do have much gratitude towards brain entrainment. Here is the video that sparked the most experiences: I also have holosync but my ADD mind has not made it very far.

Also, I read my example again, and it's not the same experience just reading it through, although it does serve a similar effect. Trust me, the real magic comes in writing one out for yourself. Where would you like to visit, or what would you do or ask?

I was there while drawing them. .

@SirVladimir yes it sounds like you understood it. I struggled with the terms astral projection or some kind of lucid daydream. Ultimately, it exponentially intensifies visualization without shutting down the body, and I do feel like I'm projecting. This can be applied to any spiritual practice which involves visualization. I think a huge misconception tends to be that astral projection has to occur in the same plane that we call physical realm. If they let go of that belief, then perhaps anything could be Astral. If I were to say that I travel to the moon and have a whole astral visit there, it does not need to mean that I travelled to some unified interpretation of 'the moon'. I'm visiting the moon that is manifesting in the temporarily created dream. What lessons or treasures can I find there, amongst its dusty craters? Could we create a special place where we can allow guiding energies inside for communion? Years ago I built a giant tree which had a loft up in the crest. Had a library, meditation hanging hammock in the centre, and large cathedral windows overlooking a balcony and the forest below. I used this bilocation method to visit it. Yes to anyone smirking, lots of sativa marijuana was in the smallprint but... ?‍♂️ I made sketches in my journal to solidify the setting. (?excuse the really rough sketches, I never fully developed them here) Also, I switch between automatic writing and wilful writing at will, although I could be using a different style of automatic writing than you mean.