Andreas

Nice! This insight should be useful for analysing social conflicts.

Time is change. Change is constant.

Red pill.

You clearly do when you become emotionally invested. You not taking me seriously does not make me rational. I am not being defensive. You are attempting to stigmatize me by trying to compare me to a shitting horse. No, you did not do the same thing to yourself. Your post over displays stigmatization. "Ask yourself: why am i so defensive? Why do i try to victimise myself?" is stigmatization because you are indirectly suggesting that I am being defensive and try to victimize myself. Just pointing out the facts and cutting through bullshit does not make me defensive. Rationality does not make me superior to religious people. But rationality is according to Spiral Dynamics more developed, which is why I title my thread with what I did.

Nope. Rationality is not a cause, principle or an activity. It is also not something being pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion. Attempting to stigmatize me to appear morally or intellectually superior will not make me take you seriously.

Here you go. I remember being thought this in primary school. I did not assume anything about rationality.

What?

Not the name of this thread. Create a new thread if you want to talk about your problems with rationality.

I suggest you read the title of this thread. That’s what it is supposed to be about. I think you get my point. Faith is not built upon reason or logic, therefore it’s irrational. A lot of stuff in life is irrayional. Not everything. I can say with 100% certainty that 1+1=2. That IS a fact. If you are talking about the epistemological implifications of ego then yes, I can not know that im being irrational. But I can still feel frustration towards irrational people without being hypocritical as long as I hold myself up to that same standard.

How is that a point? It’s faith with evidence yes. Doesn’t make it wrong, doesn’t make religion right. You can not prove I am irrational with rationality for stating that irrationality is irrational and therefore frustrates me. Saying that 1+1=2 is not irrational by the non-mathematical definition. Trying to prove it is irrational is in itself irrational.

I know that. How am I being irrational for not remembering when I was irrational? There is a difference in being hypocritical and irrational. And IF I was being hypocritical I wouldn’t even accept my own mistake which I did not even remember. What’s your point?

How is it not?! I can say that 2+2=3. And then be wrong. It doesn’t mean that it’s irrational for me to say that 2+2=4.

Absolutely not. I said what I said, that I don’t know. Don’t pull it out of context. I can kill a man and regret it. It doesn’t make it wrong for me to say that it’s wrong to kill a man.

What are you talking about? It’s irrational to not know if I was irrational? Stop trying to twist my words.

Not to my knowledge.

I remember believing in Santa Clause. So yes. I guess it’s not really about irrationality but about people who chose to ignore facts or basic logic because of emotions. It’s really frustrating.

Yea it’s probably something im repressing. I generally don’t like irrational people and try to avoid them.

I watched your video. I had to stop 4 minutes in because I cringed so hard I started to get goosebumps. It really is disturbing how brainwashed people can become. Thanks for sharing though!

I still don't know about this topic. Some people say you need people, some people say you don't need anyone.

I had an idea once of having a licence to be a parent. You need a licence to drive because you can hurt others so same thing. Well it turns out people get very mad very fast and you might create some type of civil war like the communists. Hard to implement.

My post can’t be compared with an animals bodily function.

What?

Is that your gut reaction? How do I get to that level? I feel like meditation is not enough. Absolutely crazy. Imagine killing someone for their life experiences they could not control. And life in prison is basicly ruining someones life for a tiny stroke to the ego of the victims.

Then that’s a shitty situation. But we still have to enforce the law or society is going to end pretty fast. It’s not for their sake. They should get some mental help like they do in my country and get a job and some friends. Or whatever they need. We still need a society after all.

Well I should refrace that. I hate the act of abuse. Not the people doing them. I support compassion. I live in Norway. I think we may have the nicest prisonsystems in the world. People are doing a lot better out of the system than in America.