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being is everything be a chameleon ~ share insight & experience, help nudge "others" towards realization & continual development when it comes down to it, boredom is really just hindsight - a distraction from the exuberance of awareness contemplate on this boredom, out-sit it... face resistance rather than avoid it... allow it to reveal its source... revel in the every moment... bless, always n̞̻̦͙̪̹͇̟͉̫̘̪̘̺̲͇̲̪͕̊͑́̄̚ạ̺̜̬͉̝͒͌̍͗͛̈́̚m̲̭̣̬̮̝͇̜͇̻̱̈̃̎̑͌͆̀ͬ̌̔̅̊̃͐͒̀̚ả̘͔͍̬̗̖̤͍̝͔̱̻̱̘̜̤̏̾ͭ̿̔s̪̺̖̻̳̯̦ͯ̍̆̂̓͛̓̚ͅͅt̲̟͈̟͚̺̮͓͎̦̱̪̺͕̘̟̹͉̂̄͌̓̏ͦͥ͊ͧ̓ͦ͒̏̉e͓̼̣̘ͫͬ͌͋̿͛̎͗͛͊̾̿́̿̂̎̚ - yawning gap

as @Serotoninluv said, stay mindful in the present moment - lose the trying and remembering n̖̥̗͎̥̹̺̠̯͙̲̺̦̜̲͔̮̫̉͗̊͛̿̈́́̿ͭ̉̅̂ͥ̌ͩ̀ͤ̂a̦͓̘̻̞̫͙̤̰͉͔̱͉͆̒ͬ̔͑̈́̽̂͛̊͑͑̀ͩ͂ͪͪ̈m͈̼̱̥̣͓̲͔̼͇̹̲͙̞̪̉̿͐ͤ͗̽̉͌̏ͦ̚ͅa̼̫̟̖̗̿̎͒̾̓ͫͯś̬̜͙̰̠͇͉̳̥̺̖̮̪̜͙̭̹͍̜̒͂̊͑͌͆̑̆̉ͭ̈́ͭͮͮt̮̳̥̳̟̋̿͆͊́͌̇e̫͇̤͙̳̝̻͙͉̭̜͇͐̂̈̿͌͒͆̍ͨ̓͆͐̑̇ͪ̄ - yawning gap

@Leo Gura fuckin stoked nothing speaks louder than deconstruction! but no one listens to nothing n͎͇̬̳͈͖̖̬̯̗͖̖͚̹̝̲̰͌͗͌ͭ̓͑ͥͫ͒́̚a̪̩̲̱̯̱̙̖̥̔̽̋͛ͬͫ̈́̓́̌̅̇̃̋̆̐́͑m̲̳̬͍̪̞͔̙̥͕͖̼̫̰͈̺̋͑͊̉ȁ̳͉̲̣̲̫̤̲͕̼̫̘̩̮̞ͮ͐ͨͅś̜̯̘͎̲̪̩͕͚̰͉̩͚ͥ̃͑̃̄̓ͮͤͥ́ͨ͗ͧ͗̿ͨ͛̾t̩͎̺̞͙̰̠̘̯̾̾ͣ̌̿̏̋͑͂͛ͧe͕̪͈̺̼̜̗͕̖̘̻̝̹̾̈͗͐̂̆̒͐͋̐͑̒͗̃̋̀ͮ - yawning gap

@Joseph Maynor well put, i can certainly see it from that perspective i would love to dive deeper into this ~ "all that actually exists" what this is defined as/ referring to is crucial imo would you not consider the concept of the illusory self to exist just as the concept of the true self? or would you just say concept[ion] is illusory. & "true self" is not conceptual/definable? in either case, its difficult to say what actually exists ñ̦̖͔̭̹̟̮̠̠̭͍̗̼͕̜̠̞̉̆ͩa̲̞͍̗̥̓͌͌ͭ͆́ͧͤͥ̓m̩͇͙̻̘͔̿̓̿̓ͬ̽a̝̝̳̙̮̗̪̬̟͎̜͈͚͋̆̓̽̋̐͋ͧ̋͊ͦ̏̊̈ͬ̌̊s͍͔̝̯͎̙͉̪̙̪̙̯̗̬̭͙̜ͬ̈́̔̊ͯ̐̃̅̐̆̇ͫ́͋̓̆ͅt͕̻̭̰̼͙̜̞̺̯̺̻͈͌̓̓ͩ̂̉́̅ͦ̆͛ͥ̿̋̆ͤ̒̊ͭe͍̖͎̼̰̩̼̥̱̻̾́͛̆ͅ - yawning gap

@Outer there's like these voices man idk ṅ̲͚̺̰̱͈̪͇͓̫̂͛̾͒̆̀̍̄͒̄̾̈́̿ͭͤ̅̚ͅa̗̝̪͓̱͎̝̱̟̥̹̣̦̤͎̲̻̾͋ͨ̍̑ͅṁ̺̺̖̲͉͈͉̤̣̻́̌̆̋̐̒̾̇̇̐̓ͣ̈̊ͨ͑̀ͅă͔͓̣̯͙̼͖̲͕̖͕̽͂ͯ͒ͧ̇̏͐̌ͦ̂̈s̮̺̙͕̰͖͖̖̺̺͈̰̹̰̺͙̹͌͗̈̽̅̈́͐́ͭͨͫ͒͆t̙̠̩̬̭̐ͯ̅͌̎ͭe̙̪̫̹̹͚̰͚̺̺̰̞͓̺͙̓͒ͣͫ͗ͪ̂̃ - yawning gap

how to reconcile them? realize there is no one actually looking? or nothing to look with/at? look at them both simultaneously? why not order it like this though: (0) there is no me (1) everything is me or better yet like this: is not nothing everything? by its nature, its paradoxical to put into concept or words... interested to see your take n̖͕̥̹̹̯̘̞̙̭̦̝̥͇̗̤ͯͤ̔̒ͩ͌͗̑̇ͪ͆ͩ̌͛̀̅͌̔̓ͅa͕͇͓̖̭͖̭̳͚͇̲̫̪̮͒͛͒̓̒̇͊ͨ͑ͮ̽̄m̗̺̹̬͍͌̆̀̄̊̾a̟͉͍͙͔̪͔̣͙̹͗̒̇͂ͯͯ͛̅̿̈̔̌ͤ̅͂͗ṡ̞̦̤͉̠̖͙̫̞͈ͭ̔̉̒͒̍ͥ̽͆́ͬͅͅt̞̲̪̱͍̯͖͕͙̣͚̲̺̼̹̝̓͋̓̿ͭ̑̅ͮ̃͐̑ͅͅe̹̩̟̘͓̹͖̝̬̒̐̿͑̍̄͗̑̉̾̆̍̊̊͛ͦ͂̚ - yawning gap

hello and welcome! consider that help and growth come from within... whats the rush? n̲͓̥̝̙ͯ̓̒̈́ͤa̘̞̪͇̟͔̫̬̘̳̜̍̅̀̿͒̈́̍͂͂̍ͣͫͅm̝̻̤͓̟͍̹͔ͦ̐͂͒͌a̗̻͇͚̞̠̝̟͙̥͕̘̮̳̟̫ͧ̊͗̄s̘̣̤̹͕̗̪͇̪̩͔̍ͩ̾͌̽͛ͨͭ̓ͪ̂͌̚ͅt̤͕̫͈̭̜̦ͫͦ̑e̞͎̬̦̭͇̘̱̮̭̹̱̺̓ͪͩ̽ͦͮ̚ͅ - yawning gap

why assume? why not share the release? why not share the perspective that it doesn't have to be a selfish pursuit? love the thread title btw n̠̬̤̼̝̟̳̤͚̲̹̬̦̻̽̌́ͥͣͫ͐̆ͤͧ̐͆̆ͤ͗̑̍̚a̹͓͇̗̦ͤ̌̃̏̈́͐͒ͪm̳͚̮̯̹̤͍̰̙̉̐̑̋͑̊̍ͨ̽̏̐̽̃͆́̚ǎ̼̱̺̼͖̳̹̥̥̟̠̺̮ͩ̉̂ͬ̿ͥ̍̒̇͊̿͆ͫ̒̓̈͆̆s̼̯͎̹͎͚͓̣̞̦̹̠͓̺̺̄̑̋̌ͯ̑͑̈ͤ́̿ͪͮ̇ͤ͒ͅṯ̙̮͎̣̗̈͗ͯ̿̏ͧͨͧ͐ͦ͗̎ͬ͌̂̈̚e̱̻̩̰̲̮̮̯͈͎̖̾ͤ̑ͤ - yawning gap

@Joseph Maynor well clarified! - not that anything is safe to assume, but @Leo Gura seems to be aware of this [distinction that is of mind] an honorable one at that! ň̖͍̦̞̪̦̱̪̗̙̹̫̽̏̈ͧ͌̋̆͆͛̈́̑̆͑ͮ̃̐͐à̘͖̣̘̮͍͍̣͖̳̰ͪ͛͌̂ͬ͐̍m̘̱̬̞͔̥̻͕͈̪ͭ͌̇ͨ̒̎ͯͤͫ̽ͭͣͣ͛̚̚ā̼͕̩͇̯̱̫̱̗͔̞͚̤͖̝̭͕͕͂̔ͤ͗ͮș͕̰͔͙̓̑͑͋̇͐̓ͥͧ̈̌t̞̖̫͓̮̊͊͋̇ė͎͙̱̻̹͚̙̱͎͙̞͐̽̾̉͋̚ - yawning gap

yep! i shit you not this was written in my notes in reference to two voices that cracked me up as i drifted to sleep this morning: "voices of hypnagogia: 'so whaddya gonna do, formulate it?' (mobster-esque accent) 'you did that?' (lightly wavering female voice)" needless to say ~ slept sound af n͓̼͓̙̮̠̭̞̱̤̘̦̭̆̃̿̃̑ͨ̅̚a̼̟̱̣̤̥̰̥̍̄̿͂͗̌ͥ̀̾ͦͥͬͧ̍͒m̯͉̰̯ͥͣ̽͋ͬ̏̾̾͗̐͐ă̞̱͓͎͑̅̀̔ͮ̒ͪ͛̒ͅs̠̱̰̦̞̙̜̈́̇ͮ̀̉̐̇̓̐ͤ̃ͮ͛ͫͤt̻̰͈̱͈̦̮̲̞̮͚̘̤͓̯̲̻͎̅̾́ͪ̑ͩ͆͒̚̚e̬̺͚͖̭̖̲̙̗̜̫̠̹̬̖͚̙̝͂̆͂ͯͨ̎̆̈ͩͤͫ͋ͤ͋́͂ͯ̏ͅ - yawning gap

to clarify - is the question "how did 'you' manage to [remember] witness of a state of detachment from the body?" n̥̲̮͇̖̘̙͙̻̩ͯ̀́ͪͧ̄ͮͅa͎̝̮̺͈̦̰̟̮̯͉ͭ̇ͥ̃́̔͊̄̂̒̏ͣ̀̐̚m̞̪̹̱̲̟͎̖̥̣͎͒́ͣ̉ͤͮ̌̐̾ͯ̔͛̿͆a̙̞̘̹̽̌ͮ̽̅̂̌̅ͅs̮̞̲͍͖͎̜̻̫̹̣̜͔̭ͫ̃̃̿̓̄ͥ̑ͅt̮̘̮̪͓̘̠͍͖͇ͭͤ̇͑͋ͥ̂̉ͣͧ̒̚e̯̝̼̙̰̘͔̝̮̺̻̱̞̽͋̆ͮ̔́ͪ͋́ - yawning gap

welcome fellow long-time-lurker! love is love itself allow it to be more than just a conception, its depths cannot be fragmented into knowing... far too often we seek to make categorizations in the mind, instead of allowing things to be and reveling in experiencing gratitude, love, peace, and even understanding can all be just expressions (or categorizations) of the mind/ego if we limit them to that - make no judgment! contemplate what is love, listen and observe without defining and this will lend to deeper insight n̪͓͚̪̙̯̻̟̙̖̲̜̱̪͕̬͔̪ͥ̅̌̌̑̈̚̚ͅa̬̬̲̭͔̲̤͚͈̤̮ͯ͛ͮ͊̂̉̏̾̄ͩ̓͒̈́̂̈̀m̦̞͙̻̜̞͙̗͎̤̆ͤͤ͂͗ͨ͛͗͐ͩ̀ͣ̀ͪ̂a̻̞̪̫̮͚͎͖͈̠͔͖̺͗͋ͨ͋̍̉̾s͚͎̱̼͙̲̲̳̟͎͕̍͐̂ͤ̌ͧ̆t͍̤̱̻ͦͪ̌̍̉ͯ͋ͬͭ̂͗e̤̖̮͕͎̠͍̖̩͈͔͓̲̲̫̻͓̼̓ͧͯ̈͗̽̉ͧͧ̾̍ͭͥͤͤ̍ͮ̃̔ - yawning gap

you exude worthiness, together we are/together we are not "too much" leaves out the best parts, its infinite yes, breath is the guide of all! breathe deeper forever!! all the best, bless n̹̙̜͓͚̹̉ͣ̅̆̋̀̊ͬͯͯ̎̆̽̄̋ͫ̉̿ͅͅa͖̳̟̜̰͉͖̹̖ͪͪ̑ͬ̊͌m͕̪̠͍͇̲̺͎̤̬̳͔̺͇̫̞̔̈͗̓̊ͣͦ̄̇ͪ̍ͅa̘͚̼̥̞̗̪̘͖̗͓͉̱͎̔ͦ̾̇̽̋ͭs̪̖̫̖̳̜̼̗̼̜̺͉̮̭̩̼͍̬̳̈͒̈́̒ͤ̀t̰̞̻̙̐̅ͯ̍̈͒̉̓̔ͬe̩͓̟̰̍̓ͫͥ̓̂́̒̽̎ͦ - yawning gap

here are a couple to ponder ~ what is sensory information, and how is it interpreted? what is the nature of the self, is the fruition of it any different than itself? n̲̜͔͚̳͉͛̃͒͒͒ͫ̏ͣå̠͙͔̹̮̘̙͚͙̩͕͗̇̇̌̆ͯ̈́̔ͅm͓̟̬̺̮̣̤̜̱̯͔̭͔̮̲̭̟ͥ̈ͫͯ͌̓̊ͨ̇̉͋ͬa̼͉̳̜̓ͫͣ̋ͫ̃ͯ̅̽̂͛̏̑ͧ̍́s̗̹̙͈̳̗̥̜͚̠̺̳̹͇̪̺͔͆̂͒͂̀̓̅ͮ̃ͦͬ̋̀͋̿t̼̙͓͙͈͂̒͗ͪe̮̭̳̜̣͚̬͚̳̤ͧͬ́ͯ̌̆͌̃̆̐͊͑̀̄͒ͤ̾̿ - yawning gap

fray the fabric of reality by pulling at the thread of questions (or rip the seams and tear it apart) here are a few to get the questions flowing... what are the questions that are not obvious or are not being asked? what are your questioning patterns? what kind of questions do you focus on? what questions yield unexpected insights into why things are the way they are? what questions surface fundamental assumptions and challenge the status quo? what questions generate strong emotional responses? what questions guide you best into disruptive territory? respond with questions one can ask to inspire yet a deeper question or line of questioning [ideally relating to meditation, consciousness, enlightenment & spirituality] *answers are not permitted, if you have something to say, convey it with a question* n̹̦͍͓̫̩̦̭̼̰̲̠̦̐͒̽ͥ̒̉̌̆̔͊̋̅͐ͩ͆ȧ̙͕̻͍̟̮̭͙̙̝͎͎̟͙͓̱͙͈̠ͪ̈́̌̔ͥ̅ͩm͇̼̱̤̯̩̭͙̦̥̲͗͋̆̌̊ͦͪ͌ả͉͓̫̰̩̫̯̣̯ͥ̍͌̓ͦ͂͋͒̒͂̌̓͗̿ͣ͒͗̚ͅs͉̼̥̫̠̞̲̗ͥ͑͐ͭ̏̒̓̃͂t̥̰̱̞̯̺̗̲̠̪̤͍͇͉̪̊͑̂̆ͩͬ̇̒͂ͪ́̇ͮ̈ͣͦe̝̝̻͔̦̮̜̜̺̯̞̜̮̟̹̩̤͌ͯͯ͒̎̎ - yawning gap

@Finland3286 beautifully contemplative n̫̺͔̜̭̺̩̍͐ͩ̏ͧ̄ͯ̈́̓̈́́͌͑ͯ̽͐ͪ̌̉ǎ̫̲̠͖̥̟͔̤̺͔̯ͮ̈̄ͪͨͮ̇͗̏̐̏͐̀͋m̗̹̼̩̪̲̻͕̩̲̿̈́̇̀ͫ̉ͧ̄͋̇̔â̳̜͙͊̍ͫͅs̱͖͇̘̣̪͓̖̦͌ͥ̿́ͅt͇̟̲̮͚͈͉̤̤̟̞̰̠̳̥͉͈̞̟̽͊̾̇͊́̾ͦ̅̊ͪ͑͆̓e̞̟̠̠̪̟̮͇̰̤̳̫ͨ̀̈̔̔̄ͬ͌̅͐ͮͣ̅ͭͅͅ - yawning gap

@iamme wonderful ṇ͓͙̭̏́̓̽͛͗͛ͧa̻̫̟̮̝̩̘̜ͪ̀ͯ̄ͮ̅͆͛ͮͪ͐ͪͬ͆̑ͬm̳̙̗̭͚̹̞̟̲ͩ͂ͦͯͨ̀ͮͣ̿ͧa̼̱͖̖̱̻̬͇̟͙̫͕̜͙͐̔ͣ̈́͒͌̃͂̉̍ͪͨ̏̋̉̚s͇̬͕͈̬̙̰͕̠͂̔̃̈́̄́͋̅͆̈́͊ͅt̞̰̞̭͓̼ͪ̊͊ͤ̏ͧͅẻ̳̗̈̆̋ͣͣͅ - yawning gap

@K VIL n̬͇̣̜̭͛̽ͨ̈a͔̖͔̠̦̝͙̱̯͍͎̖̝͎̖͎̲͍̔̅ͨ̈̈ͩͅm̤̱̳̪̎ͥ͆̿̌̌ͦ̆͂̐ͫ̃̇a͚̲͎̼͙͎̝͉̟̖̹͙̗̪̟͛ͦ̈͗ͬ̑̈́͗̆̇̑͋̏̓͊s̠̙̘͈̩̟̻͔̰̺̤͈͇̬̼͗̈̓ͦ̈́ͤͅt͕̱͚̗̭̭̣̗̞̹̼̯ͭͦ̑ͣͫ̆̓̑ͣ̅̇̿͒̄ͭͤ̾ͣe͚̞̹̞̞͉̍ͥͫͨ̾̇ͬͨ̏͊̅̀̇͛ͯ - yawning gap

welcome! i see the cold exposure more as a supplement to the breathing, demonstrations of the routine can be found easily here's one: try it out! bless n͕̪̳̳̲̼͙̘̩̻͓̦̤ͭͣ̒̔͑a̺̫̼͓͓ͧ̆͑̀̅̔ͨ̅̄m͖̺͎͖͖͉̻̺͔̟͕̙̳̹̬͓̮̘̔ͥͣ͐ͨ̇̎͐ͨ͆͐̄̐͒͋̚ͅa̪̦̼͓̟̣̬̻̝͓͈̠͕̪̹̩̼̔͑͂͑̌̑ͭͪͬ́̚ͅs̹̞͈̹̗̟̫̃͒ͯ̑͆̾͛̈͐̑̇̓̾̂͆̃t̞̙̥̘̺̘̮̓̀̊ͮͧ̂̿̾̈̚e͙̝̝̻̥̖̘̺͕ͧͣ͛̅̋ͩ̑͒͒ͪ̀ͅ - yawning gap

yes, build up to it - go at your own pace consider the wim hof method to dip your toes in so to speak ṋ͕̖͗͆ͥ͋̄a̝̱͚͈̳̟̰̹̳̖̻̱̤̬̘̺̝ͤ̆̅̄̊ͨ̑͆͂ͅm͓̲͍̦͖͉͖͉̩̯̰̘ͤͩͦͯ̌͂ͅa̹̲͚͙̹̖̥͉̔ͯͪ̉̉ͦͩs͍̞̝̖̝͉ͤ̔̆͆ͣ̈̑̏̈́ͮ͑̎̌̓̚t̰̖̮͇̜͓̣̔ͮ̽̊̆̂̇̌ͬ̇̽̀̆̋ě̩̥͍̺̮͍ͮ̓̏̉̿̓̀̍̆͒͂͋̾̃̅ - yawning gap

is judgement something to behold? is truth something that can be defined? do "others" really exist outside of conception? ń̠̮̘͔̥̲̤͙͉͔̩̖̂̍͌̄͋̐ͤ̒̚a̤̻̬̬̾̏̾ͤ͐͂ͪ̾m͈͔̦̹͑̇͂͗͒ͅá̬̘̺̖̫̭̼ͨ͑̿͑͂̋ͮ͗̌s̬͙̩̭̼̳̲̫̙͕͇̝͎̲̭͓̎̿̀͗̂̏̏ͤ̽͐̊̉̄͒̒̏̏ͅt̲̣̼̬̺͚̘̣͔͇ͨ̔̀̔͑ͅͅͅͅé̘̙͎̰̹͍̗̖̼̦̺̣͗̽̓̽̊̎̀ͪͅ - yawning gap

great! keep steady with questioning 人間万事塞翁が馬 [all human affairs are like saiou's horse (one's fortune or luck is unpredictable and ever-changing)] ñ̘̟̦ͧͬ͐ͅã͉̱͙̥̣͓̺͔̗͕̗̘͚͖̻̑͊͑̿̒ͫ̆ͫͅm̪̙͍͍̥͇͙̘̳̫̫̫̺̗̣̩̟̪ͩ̽ͬ͊ͥa͎̬̭̺͔̫͕̙͚̺̙̘̦͖̬̥ͩ̍ͪ̄̇͗̓̅̍s͙͈̦͕̱͎͖͂͑͋͌ͣ̈́ͥͮͧ̾̍̇͑̚t͇̙͙̫̤̲͛ͥ̍͂̏͆ͧ͒ͮͦ̚ẽ̥̥̣͖̥̱ͪͥͭ͐ͯͅ - yawning gap

are you a lumberjack?

@FrgttnDeer beat me to it lmao n͕͇̞͆̅́̄ͮͦ́̔ͣ̑͂ͤả̯̝̗̖̖͍̖̯̝̺ͧͩ̾ͧ͑̑̉͛̓ͫm͇̝̖̣̪͍̼̙̣̀ͮ̅͗̊ͥ͗̃̿ͮ͑ͬ̉́͗̐͌a̞͖͍̱͚̣͓̟͚ͦ̍̽ͣ̈́̂s̞͎͉̜̥̻̯̼͙̮͇͚͌̇͋ͫͫͧ͗̿͋̅̊͒͛̒́̇ͅt͈͉͖̱̭̪̫̹͕̳͈̦̞̥̱͕͈̽̓̎e͕̬͓̺͖̱ͪͥ̽̏͗̏ͮͯ͒͂́ͅ - yawning gap

ultimately even death is not to be feared... no one gets out alive as they say... that being said, it is truly important to be mindful and listen to the body. go at your own pace, and prioritize health. just trust that all is in its rightful place, allow whatever arises to pass - as @cetus56 mentioned all the best, bless n͉̬̩̫̭̮̻̎̽̚ȧ̲̗͍͕͕̭͙̜ͦ͆ͤ̏ͯ̓͋́͛ͥͫ̐̚m͚̦̺̦̝͋̅̒́̌̆͊̎̋̓ͧͭ̅̏̚a̝͇̦̩̪̠̹͉̺͇̫͎͕̒ͪ̀̉ͭ̎ͥ̓͒͒̍ͪͣͪ͒́ͩͪ̎s̻̤̠̩͎̦̰̣̙̤̋͆ͨ͗̃t͓͖̫̭̤̘̪͇̬̟̺͊̋͊̔͑͑ͭͬͥ͂̅͒̓ͩ̓̎̚é̮̼̹̩̦̜̥͓̜̻͕̯͚̾͑͑̓͂̓ͪ̉ - yawning gap