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This is true, but there's a big asterisk that goes along with it. Teens in native tribal cultures are in native tribal cultures. The use of psychedelics is integrated into their whole way of life, at every level. Teens in the West do not have anything approaching that kind of context/setting. This is why it can be dangerous for teens to take psychedelics. In most cases they're just not emotionally ready to integrate whatever they discover or do not have the proper environment to integrate it. In fact, I'm honestly not sure most people in their twenties in the West are ready. Jung was absolutely right in observing that use of psychedelics carries with it a ton of social responsibility; you either discover and bring forth new values or go back to being a better "regular" person. If you're not ready for that, don't bother. Unless a 16 year old is ready and possesses the means to grow up fast, he shouldn't bother, because the consequences will be destabilizing. (Teens in tribal cultures grow up faster.)

Enlightenment doesn't mean you stop experiencing negative emotions forever, no matter what happens in your life. Enlightenment means you experience negative emotions without needing the experience to be anything else. If someone close to you dies, you are going to cry as opposed to repress sadness. In other words, there is a state of total acceptance and embrace of all that arises, good, bad and indifferent. It's not a state of isolated affect or dissociation. In fact, it's a state of richer emotions without repression. The misery and trauma comes from NOT FULLY EXPERIENCING THE EMOTIONS AS THEY ARISE. This is how people get psychologically stuck. They can't feel their pain, their sadness or their anger, and instead turn to self-hatred or depression or chronic anxiety.

Buddhism is the path of negation. It is suitable for some and not for others. The end goal of liberation can be reached by various means. Different strokes for different folks. You can reach it despite having a shitload of concepts all along the way. For example, surrender to guru's grace. There are many atheists, e.g. who take up Buddhism because their ego requires they reject all deities and avatars. Many will fail to reach enlightenment because they are rejecting something which is in actuality a part of them. You do not get to persistently reject something which is really a part of yourself and become awakened. It is not about the vehicle, grand or lesser. It is about the passenger.

Why is everyone talking about Turquoise when very few people have mastered Yellow? This is the kind of ego delusion that distracts one from maturing as a human being. Unless you're truly, constantly, thinking of the world not in terms of imposing your ideological preferences but by envisioning how people in various stages can coexist with a minimum of friction you're not even in Yellow. This is actually challenging, both emotionally and intellectually. Unless you are honestly that emotionally and intellectually stable that you do not feel superior and fit to dictate how others should think and live (i.e. genuinely respect the evolutionary process) you are not even in Yellow. Yellow may be the first stage that actually attempts some kind of grand psychosocial synthesis. How about we master that before we navel-gaze about more advanced shit?

Well, it's more interesting to look at Sam Harris who is apparently responsible for "spiritual atheism" as a mini-movement. Non-spiritual, "everything is woo" type atheists are (as Leo correctly pointed out) someone to leave alone; there's nothing there to engage with. Sam Harris, however, is illustrative of the problems of clinging to an atheist identity and mindset while attempting to seek. Imagine a racehorse at the starting gates that gets whacked in the leg right before the race begins. The entire process serves the ego and its avoidance strategy: rejection of all icky fictitious deities or avatars precludes any sort of bhakti or devotional path helpful to heavy thinkers. This ensures that the only "rational" path is the atheistic Buddhism and its meditation techniques. Which is great and all: you can meditate for 30 years and have cool satori experiences...and still not stabilize in no-self. Because you're unwilling to die. And you've decided you're unwilling to die the second you chose this path 30 years ago and stuck to it. Because it's your freakin' comfort zone. You can wax rhapsodic about all the benefits of meditation and be smug in your correctness...and still miss the elephant in the room: if being rational hasn't worked in 30 years, maybe trying the irrational might help?

1980s were a time when you weren't really allowed to be a whiny victim. This is why movies like The Breakfast Club were so popular; it was actually the first healthy buds of Green that eventually turned into a toxic mold.

The basic difference is generational. Millenials came to awareness after the Soviet Union dissolved, so have less first-hand experience with the evils of the left. (In addition, they were mostly taught by leftist teachers who stressed Hitler over Stalin.) When you were born matters a lot as to your perspective on these things. It's not difficult for even a relatively normal millennial to have a very skewed perspective, where JBP is mentioned in the same ballpark as Hitler.

Peterson's an imperfect vessel for Yellow. Yes, he may have a Green shadow (like many in Yellow,) but many people in Green have a Blue shadow. Everyone who excessively focuses on Blue as some extraordinary source of evil is shadowboxing.

Play sports.

I didn't understand why Genghis Khan was at 1000, but then I read "Genghis Khan and The Making of The Modern World" and it became clear. He basically pioneered tolerance of religion (had clergymen of several different faiths in his court), and I think, frankly, there's more myth than fact turning him into a bloodthirsty monster of some kind. Unless one has read good books on him, it's easy to fall prey to Western and Arab historical propaganda. For the medieval era, it's perfectly plausible he was enlightened (just not a religious avatar, which few enlightened people are anyway.) https://historynewsnetwork.org/article/159818

I'm leaning more and more towards the idea that conscious structure development such as Wilber advocates is an ego delusion, and in certain cases actually a trap for seekers, including Wilber himself. It's typical of the 700s stage, where more and more elaborate hierarchies and conscious development are focused on. I don't think he has a depth of understanding of full awakening. He understands its superficial features, but not all of its implications. This is not to say that there isn't descriptive validity to it; I'm just talking about the idea that you can consciously develop to higher structures: that is the delusion. If there is a process there it is spontaneous and unconscious. I'm afraid forcing it consciously can result in distortions, projections and greater delusions.

Mine's Genotype Diet (Peter D'Adamo.) Hunter genotype. He has a book with flow charts to help determine your type.

Different strokes for different folks. I'm on the Genotype diet. There are 6 types, I observe the diet for my type (Hunter) and so far it's been working for me, fingers crossed. Lost weight and kept it off. At this point I strongly lean towards "any one-size-fits-all diet is a load of crap." Having said that, there are some foods that appear to be universally bad (and I think less that are universally beneficial.)

She's probably doing the work of the collective shadow, and those qualities she's talking about need to be developed and integrated. Of course, you're only 23, and that full development of the inferior comes much later. I would say that you'd be well-advised to at least develop those qualities to a level of a normal healthy 23 year old of your personality type. So, like, a 10% improvement would likely be beneficial and noticeable. And in addition you'd feel more emotionally stable as well.

Hello...mass movements suck (both MGTOW AND "equality of outcome" feminism.) If you surrender your uniqueness to fit into a mold, mental or physical, you are sacrificing your freedom. You become a slave. Enlightenment is about being who YOU are, not about who some herd expects you to be. The problem with the MGTOW agenda is that it's a distortion of a truth: it takes certain discernable trends and turns them into an absolutist dogma. It's like saying if cancer is worryingly increasing everyone's going to get cancer (when it's more like from 5% to 10% or something.) This goes for a lot of things. There are always witches to hunt.

I have a very attractive female friend who suffers from depression and thinks she's very ugly. So I take these things with a grain of salt usually, unless I see a photo. In any case, I know married women who are not particularly physically attractive in a conventional sense. You don't have to be attractive to everyone, just one person. That's a lot easier to swing than being a model, for sure.

No prob.

Freedom from the discontent arising from inability to accept.

My technical term for this is the ego "boom-bust" or "inflationary-deflationary" dynamic.

Why do you think that is the case?

Enlightenment IS freedom. Every person has a natural drive in the direction of freedom (The Self earns to fully express itself) but the self-perpetuating I-thought/ego seeks to derail that drive.

Another alternative, if you are risk averse, is to save up your money and go abroad for an ayuhuasca or iboga retreat. They are legal in some countries, and while not exactly like 5-eo in effects, are excellent tools on the spiritual journey.

Interesting. Yeah, I know my own experience but I don't know everyone else's. It's good to see it corroborated.

Yeah, it's not necessarily a huge shock (especially in the context of a gradual awakening journey, since you're not going 0 to 60 in a second), but you do know when you've reached it pretty quickly. Actually it took me a few days to realize I had reached it, because it deepened during those few days. Really, although I recognized it immediately I had to make sure it wasn't some transitory state.

I want to commend Leo for this. Beautifully stated. That was one of my first realizations upon reaching Sahaja. "Depression is simply one not taking sufficient responsibility upon oneself." In astrology, depression is represented by the planet Saturn. Saturn symbolizes both depression and responsibility. You can pick one or the other.