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By doing Wu Wei You do not aim then shoot, it’s all one action. If you’re going outwit the devil, it’s terribly important you don’t give him any advance notice. Hear that.

Just curious about the behind the scenes, do you have a set formula on how you make your videos? Like research, picking a topic, structure, etc. It’s clearly very formidable, it’ll be very insightful. @Leo Gura

The Nature of Reality: What is the nature of reality in an idealist framework, and how can we develop a coherent account of the relationship between mind and matter, taking into account the epistemological and ontological challenges posed by idealism, such as the problem of other minds, the nature of causation, and the possibility of knowledge of external objects? (Orange) - In the context of this question, the Orange stage emphasizes the importance of empirical evidence, rationality, and logical analysis in constructing a coherent account of reality, while also valuing progress, innovation, and pragmatic solutions. Orange is associated with achievement and materialism, which reflects the emphasis on concrete results and practical applications in this stage. The focus is on finding objective ways to understand reality and the relationship between mind and matter. The Role of Value and Normativity: How can we understand the role of value and normativity in an idealist framework, taking into account the complex interplay between subjective experience, intersubjective agreement, and objective norms, and how can we develop a coherent account of ethical and aesthetic evaluation that is grounded in the nature of consciousness itself? (Green/Turquoise) - In the context of this question, the Green stage emphasizes the importance of personal autonomy, social justice, and egalitarianism in constructing a coherent account of ethical and aesthetic evaluation, while also valuing diversity, empathy, and ecological awareness. Green represents egalitarianism, which reflects the emphasis on the importance of considering different perspectives and experiences when evaluating ethical and aesthetic issues. Turquoise, on the other hand, emphasizes a holistic and integrative perspective that transcends individual and cultural differences, and fosters a sense of global interconnectedness and cosmic awareness. In this context, Turquoise represents the ability to see ethical and aesthetic evaluation as part of a larger, interconnected whole. The Conscious Brain: How can we reconcile the idealist ontology of consciousness with the scientific study of the brain and behavior, taking into account the complex interplay between subjective experience, objective measurement, and intersubjective interpretation, and how can we develop a comprehensive theory of mind that accounts for both its phenomenal and functional aspects? (Yellow: Rational thinking, emphasis on scientific inquiry and objective knowledge; Green: Egalitarianism, emphasis on subjective experience and individual autonomy) - Yellow represents rational thinking, emphasizing scientific inquiry and objective knowledge, while valuing logic, analysis, and empirical evidence in constructing a comprehensive theory of mind that accounts for both its phenomenal and functional aspects. In this context, Yellow represents the need to use objective and scientific methods to study consciousness and the brain, and to develop a theory that is based on empirical evidence. Green, on the other hand, emphasizes the importance of subjective experience and individual autonomy in understanding consciousness, while also valuing pluralism, diversity, and participatory decision-making. In this context, Green represents the need to take into account the subjective experience of consciousness, and to recognize the importance of individual perspectives and autonomy in understanding the mind. The Individual and Collective Mind: How can we understand the relationship between the individual mind and the collective mind in an idealist framework, taking into account the social, cultural, and historical dimensions of consciousness, and how can we develop a comprehensive theory of culture that accounts for the role of language, symbol, and myth in shaping our understanding of the world? (Blue/Purple) Blue represents order and authority, which can be seen as important aspects of understanding the social, cultural, and historical dimensions of consciousness. As societies develop, certain norms and rules emerge that can shape how individuals think about themselves and the world around them. Purple represents magical thinking, which can be understood as an acknowledgement of the power of myths and symbols in shaping our understanding of reality. By exploring the role of language, symbol, and myth in shaping our understanding of the world, we can better understand how the collective mind operates and how it affects our individual experiences. The Nature of Spirituality: How can we develop a comprehensive theory of spirituality in an idealist framework, taking into account the diverse experiences and practices of religious and non-religious individuals, and how can we integrate these insights into a broader framework of human flourishing that promotes wisdom, compassion, and creativity? (Turquoise) Turquoise represents holistic thinking, which can be applied to the development of a comprehensive theory of spirituality. Rather than treating spirituality as a separate and distinct domain from other aspects of human experience, a holistic approach recognizes the interconnectedness of all aspects of human life. By exploring the diverse experiences and practices of religious and non-religious individuals, we can gain a more complete understanding of what spirituality means and how it can contribute to human flourishing. The Relationship between Idealism and Other Metaphysical Frameworks: How can we understand the relationship between idealism and other metaphysical frameworks, such as materialism, dualism, and panpsychism, and how can we use these comparisons to refine and develop our understanding of consciousness and reality? (Yellow/Turquoise) Yellow represents rational thinking, which can be applied to the task of understanding the relationship between idealism and other metaphysical frameworks. By subjecting different metaphysical frameworks to critical analysis, we can develop a more nuanced understanding of the strengths and weaknesses of each. Turquoise represents holistic thinking, which can be applied to the task of integrating these different frameworks into a more comprehensive theory of consciousness and reality. 7. The Role of Psychedelics: How can we incorporate the use of psychedelics into our exploration of consciousness and reality in an idealist framework, taking into account the potential for altered states of consciousness to reveal new insights and perspectives, as well as the ethical and practical challenges of their use? (Green/Turquoise) Green represents egalitarianism, which can be applied to the task of exploring the potential of psychedelics to reveal new insights and perspectives. By adopting an egalitarian attitude towards different modes of consciousness, we can avoid privileging certain states of consciousness over others. Turquoise represents holistic thinking, which can be applied to the task of integrating the insights gained from psychedelic experiences into a more comprehensive theory of consciousness and reality. This includes taking into account the ethical and practical challenges associated with their use, such as ensuring that their use is safe and legal, and that the insights gained from psychedelic experiences are subject to critical analysis and reflection.

Such an approach, greatly detailed by Alan Watts, which explains the relationship between Leo and the Audience and the nature of the approach it, he’s real proper ain’t he? Regardless, if reality is all subjectivity, then these types of statements are both just matter of fact, but also narcissistic and egotistical in nature, since they both contain truth - by the fact it’s being perceived that way - it’s true that what’s being said can be true and it’s true that when people explicate it in that way it can be perceived as egotistical, even if not the intention - since it’s a “truth” based perspective and not inherently illogical and subject to context, it is the case. What a funny way you’ve come at me today shiva, I see your act

Do you think that artificial intelligence can be so connected with a human (like a neural link) that it can override the capacity for free will, so to speak. Is consciousness demonstrable enough in the human experience? Basically could we be controlled externally with advanced enough technology

A seeker asked the sage, “Is the world I see while under the influence of psychedelics real or not?”The sage replied, “Where is the border between reality and perception?”

Been asking around and curious at the responses; Is it better to use psychedelics when things aren't amazing in your life (depression and such like) and you want help finding a solution (of sorts) or is it better to wait till your life is sorted and you're in a good place to use them?

You're all imaginary

Using symbols to construct reality. Words and language are symbols. The map is not the territory.

So I been looking around for an "opposite" to solipsism just to see other viewpoints and I found something called "Externism" I don't know if anyone has heard of it before, it's described as: "This epistemological theory contradicts the traditional theory of solipsism. While solipsists believe that only their individual self exists and the external world does not, Jára Cimrman confronted them with the idea that it is the external world which exists and the philosopher's individual self does not." Has only got any thoughts on this? Could you entertain the idea and see how it could be true? Or is it a no-go? Just an open question for conversation, not looking for the army of people saying "once you realise god/solipsism you will the know the real truth" Just a thought experiment, if you like. Could even ask, has anyone had an experience like that on psychedelics? What would it even mean for there to be no self but an external world? Is it a mixture of materialism and traditional spirituality in the context of "no self"?

As Alan Watts says "when you get the message, hang up the phone". Leo himself has referenced this and stated that no you don't hang up the phone, although he was earlier in his journey and meant don't just do psychedelics and have singular God experience. In recent times Leo has claimed that there's nothing else for him to learn and he gets it now, so in that context, Leo if you're reading this, is it time to hang up the phone? Or do you feel that there's still more to explore or just use psychedelics for recreational use. Basically I'm asking, what's the future for Leo now that's he's got the ultimate insight (apparently). Genuine question, no funny business.

Yeah I understand what's available to be done. Was just curious at what people on here and Leo thinks is the future for him in terms of exploration. Just more infinite love, more infinite truth and more infinite understanding, although I expect not to be able to be communicated. It's made me just think; so if everything is imaginary, is there anything that isn't? Is it just awareness as the formless and the all form is imaginary? And if so then would that mean the next step of exploration would be exploring moreso the formless? What about feelings as well? Is the "feeling" of love imaginary? Even if love is what we are, to "feel" surely would be a form of imagination? Where are the boundaries? What makes understanding and love not imaginary?

Yeah I know what you mean, as I said before I don't think Alan Watts meant it as a finality, especially the extended quote where he's referencing the microscope, he was too well educated to make a statement like that from a point of view of a singular use.

Using yourself as an example, this is a good reason why to hang up the phone for another day. Does that not make sense? Is that arrogant? What's the eagerness to hang up, why not just continue going and going? I'm sure at that point you had "got the message". Rather shocking the simplicity of which you understood your quote, you sound like beneath-you audience you seem to address - simplistic, lacking depth and understanding. It's an interesting manner that you responded in as well, you seemed to have a marginal difference from your moderators, but I guess not so much.

Yeah I hear what you saying, I was more referencing yourself saying that you already get it, in one of your recent videos, and that there's nothing else to learn, so in that context I was curious about what your approach next would be - if you have learned all this is to, then looking again would be just for entertainment surely? Or just to just investigate to see if you really did learn all there is. No one claimed you're looking in the microscope all day. Obviously I don't think he meant literally use a microscope once and then never again, probably meaning to not get lost in the experience, as in don't be soo stuck looking in the microscope. So for the western audience he was addressing, he was probably telling them not to just keep taking psychedelics and take some time to process - akin to newbies in spirituality thinking that they just have to get rid of their ego. He also references people that take psychedelics alot and get the "holy man syndrome" where their ego inflates and they "think they are god in the Jehovah sense" - so again to the audience he was talking to, in the middle of the previous century, as well as the experiences of some people, the quote is relevant and far from arrogance in the context, you needn't get so defensive, you can do your psychedelics as frequently as you so choose, it was an open question asking you basically - where do you go from here? Are your intentions to continue with psychedelics to look for further deeper insights or truth considering you've claimed to have got the message and that there's nothing else for you to learn. If you really want I'll find the video and time stamp if you need reference for yourself. By your response I take it as a yes you will continue. Will be interesting to see where it leads to.

Lool it does seem likely, but what can beyond Infinity, God Consciousness and solipsism? I guess the only thing beyond there being just one being that exist, there can be no being that exist. Or as Leo said in an old video referencing the ego - "it's like a magician tricking himself into thinking he exists" So maybe it'll be the God version of that.

Was a bit of random thing to share. Pedantic. This post really ain't about Alan Watts, but I've learned the comprehension levels of the admins after many years now. Do you have anything relevant to my post to add?

On a "personal" level, if accepting the idea of solipsism being true would make you feel negative feelings and such like, why is this the case? I'm just curious as to why that's the general consensus around it. Whether it is true or not, mostly I see people saying that just don't want it to be true because of how depressing it is, which to me shows the final barrier between truth (potentially) and how you feel about it. It's revealed to me moreso,with exclamation marks, that most people don't truly care about truth, especially if what's true would make them feel unhappy or suchlike. People care about truth, but if it was solipsism they wouldn't, then they go back in to philosophying about "I would just prefer to believe that it's this thing because it's more practical and healthier" For those that feel like that, genuinely, what's stopping you from seeing that if solipsism is true, that you could be happy and still have meaning in your life. From what I can gather, it seems like that the people that could still be happy are those that didn't really care about truth and want to use solipsism for egoic justifications (as Leo said) or people that really care about truth and feel that have finally found it. Just to clarify I haven't stated my position in this, it's a general inquiry.

@SamC @Kksd74628 even if we accepted that we are all alone though and solipsism was accepted, it doesn't change the first person experience within the dream, the experience is no different from being in a virtual reality with super advanced Artificial Intelligence trying to convince you that the reality is real, except you'd be aware (somewhat) that's what happening, but using that analogy again, the A.I in this world does a really good job convincing this world is real and there isn't just a single entity. My point being, if the experience doesn't change then what would cause the negative feelings? We're literally on the cusp on this happening in the "real world" - people are going to be soo sucked into the metaverse and suchlike and I guarantee for the most part people won't be depressed because the reality isn't real, they'll probs just be depressed to leave that world because of the relative nature.

I'm not sure if he's spoken about it again since, im just curious.

So rainbow body enlightenment is supposedly the highest level of enlightenment achieve in dzogchen Tibetan Buddhism. I asked on here a couple years ago whether psychedelics could make you achieve it, the conclusion was no it can't. I'm now asking whether Psychedelics can take you to an experience beyond it (even if it's temporarily) - I ask this mainly because of Leo claiming that he has had experiences that he knows is beyond all others, so genuinely I'm just curious at the stance now. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_body https://www.motmag.com/awakeandaware/2017/8/5/rainbow-body-phenomenon-the-greatest-level-of-attainable-consciousness https://www.gaia.com/article/rainbow-body-101-everything-you-didnt-know

This forum is so dead, you lot can't have an open discussion without coming with your presuppositions and telling me what you think I should do, straight forward question and you lot give me your silly answers. I care not why you think I'm asking and what you think I should do. If you dont have the answer then don't respond. @Vynce @Vincent S

In the solipsism video it was stated that 200+ breakthrough doses on 5MEO DMT would be enough to clarify solipsism as truth rather than just a philosophy; my question is - just as a general inquiry; do you reckon it can be done with 200 (or whatever number) breakthrough experiences of other psychedelics? Would I reach the same conclusion from using 5meo MALT only? Or just DMT only? Or are the characteristics for 5MEO dmt more suited for this specifically? This question is more directed at people that have experience with the psychedelics in question or "have realised solipsism"

Yeah hopefully; he's mentioned before about making other courses as well so would be good if he does this one; I remember in his life purpose course he mentioned he was going to make some other course but that obviously never came to fruition.

Nah I'm just curious coz he said he was thinking about it, so I'm asking if there's any update. You got alot of issues to be making that many assumptions. Was quite a straight forward question and statement.