Tony 845

Ok, Hi I am new on this forum, I have been doing self inquiry, mantra mediation & strong determination sitting for about a year now, the longest I've ever sat for is (2 hours & 5 minutes strong sit) i have a some questions for everyone. shinzen young has a video out its about 17 minutes, saying it's one of the fastest way to enlightenment, but in another interview he said he didn't become enlightened this way it was through self inquiry that really drove the nail home for him . But he also said that with the strong Sits that the pain went away & it became quiet? & that pain didn't hurt anymore so what is that like the 1st phase on enlightenment? Also after enlightenment do you still dream? Also is enlightenment the end of all anxiety? Also thank you Leo Gura for starting this forum you have helped me out during the worst times of my life, as well as Adyashanti, Echart, shinzen young & many other awakened/ liberated people. ?

@Dumuzzi yes I’m many cases a true kundalini awakening can lead to Enlightenment, Kundalini energy in a nut shell clears chakras & past traumas & in turn you could become enlightened. Kundalni energy can stay very active for many years also I’ve heard 7-20 till it really chills out & runs the course, lowest I’ve ever heard is 3 years. From what I have heard many people also don’t need Kundalini to become enlightened either, it’s a case by case thing. mine awoke about a year & a 1/2 ago, I feel much better & much less anxiety, I shake when I sit to mediate they are called (Kryas) my hands have also flapped & shake they are called (Mudras) there are some pretty good books out there on kundalini, shinzen young has spoken on the matter as well (really helped me out) I shake uncontrollably when I mediate it’s like a purification & lots of purging is going on, you can see people shaking uncontrollably on YouTube as well. the shaking has subsided tremendously over time & I'm not seeking for enlightenment as much, it’s almost like I know the ego isn’t who I am so it doesn’t get to me as much then a few years ago. I just watch thoughts now. After all I’m just the watcher.

@Gneh Onebar is it anxiety?

I haven’t been on the forum much over the past 6 Months or so, but here’s goes a re-cap. 1 & a 1/2-2 years ago I was heavy into SDS Sits, “I” wanted to become enlightened in the worst way, suffering wasn’t the word that I’ve been Through, I have an horrible case of OCD called Pure-O it’s basically insane thoughts over & over again, doesn’t sound bad unless you have to deal with it 24/7. since my kundalni awakening I deal with this issue very rarely now (like decreased by 98%) after all who’s the one that’s having the thoughts? Right? That was the Problem I was convinced the thoughts were who I was. any way back to the Kundalini awakening, it took me 6 months but eventually I sat for 2 hours & 10 minutes! Yeah it was torture literally, but I was willing to break my legs at this point, all of a sudden I felt bubbling on top of my head! WTF??? Boom! my crown chakra blew open!!! (Felt like light was blowing out of the top of my head) Wtf I had no clue this was even possible! At that moment I knew enlightenment was real! (Not that I’m enlightend) but that day I tasted something crazy! Anyway I had no idea about chakras at this time, but I did my research fast. 6 months went buy & nothing really changed all of a sudden while I sat to do regular breath mediation I would get spinning sensations! Again wtf!!! About a month after letting these go further & further I would start to convulse & shake while meditating again wtf!!! did my research they are called kryas it’s a part of the purging/purification process, shinzen young did a video on them, Very interesting. anyway I’m not enlightened but I can feel there are changes happening within me, my anxiety day to day wise is down Tremendously, I feel way more concious then ever, there is fast Enlightenment & slow enlightenment I’m pretty sure I will be the slower one But I’m fine with that, I still shake when I sit but not as much as when it started last March & I think it’s purged a lot of shit over the past year, nightmares, old traumas ect ect. The energy brings tons of shit to the surface that’s for sure. has anyone on here become Enlightend after a kundalni awakening? I’m also gonna try transmissions very soon with Ramaji & see if that pushes me into a permanent non-dual state. & no I have never done a psycadellic but I wouldn’t rule it out, if the Kundalni runs its full course & im not fully liberated at the end then yeah I’ll probably try them, but for now just gonna chill & let the energy do it’s thing. side note: about kundalni 2x over the past year I got angry & it felt like I was honestly going to explode the energy really is no joke, I usually don’t get angry but during the heat of the moment stuff it’s hard to check the Ego sometimes during the heat of the battle.

@Nahm sure

@Dumuzzi it defiantly does at 1st I wasn’t that thrilled with kundalni but over time it defiantly awesome.

@Nahm defiantly leaps & bounds from 3 years ago but it’s cool, for a while there it was like I was bipolar, some days Blissed out, some days Mr. Anxiety, All part of the transformation I guess, if I can keep progressing like this I know one day I’ll be great! self inquiry is also an all day event with me which is an amazing tool as well. shinzen young said his stream entry of enlightenment was with sds & his polishing or finishing off was with self inquiry. I believe he said this.

@Tanz yeah that dude is pretty Effin enlightend though, he told one story of not moving for a week or something he was in some kinda state of bliss. Crazy. there are different levels of enlightenment they say, stream entry & then walking masters. I didn’t realize this for a long time but it like anything there are brand new professional Basketball players then there are the Michael Jordan’s of the world, apples & oranges.

Anyone know anything about it? When I sit to mediate kryas kick in & my stomach convulses/shakes.

@DrewNows I can’t see how psychs & kundalini cocktail can be good, maybe once it fizzles down in 4-6 years.

@DrewNows looking to talk to people that have had a full kundalni awakening or at least know a lot about it, anyones crown chakra blown open or your 3rd eye pulsates all day long? & have kundalni kryas where you shake uncontrollably? Pm if your legit. I’m about a year & a 1/2 into kundalni & im happy with the results up to now, much less anxiety & many blissful states & much more mindful/conscious then ever before. I'm interested in people 5-10-15 years after the initial kundalni awakening & where they are now with their spiritual work & if they are enlightened today?

@Meditationdude I had the same experience, still deal with kundalni kryas for about 8 months now every day.

@Leo Gura do you ever do sds sits anymore? & thank you for all of your content, you’ve helped so many of us.

@Zigzag Idiot beautiful, never heard the scientific side of what I’ve been dealing with ?

@hundreth good advice, it’s like a trampoline, the more pressure or energy you give it the more it will bounce back at you.

@khalifa -I had some sleep issues at 1st lots of energy flowing. -I still meditate & do self inquiry daily. -my kundalini awoke on a sds sit a year ago, maybe a little more. -I’ve never done a physc. -I can believe it could take 20 years some people have lots of shit to purge, it seems on average 2-7 years from the research I’ve done though, remember you aren’t in charge of the energy, that’s you’re ego fighting it, just let it do it’s thing. -p.s. if you can’t sleep you might as well do self inquiry, always seems to put me to sleep. -if your kundalini really is awakened & you are having that much of a problem with it contact Craig Holliday, he’s one of Adyashantis decibels, he’s dealt with kundalini for a very long time & is now enlightened, He’s easy to get ahold of.

@inFlow it’s a chakra that has opened up, it’s not gonna hurt you, the chakra is clearing/purging bull shit. If it gets annoying go outside & walk on some grass & ground yourself.

@khalifa I’m on a about a year now of my kundalini being awakened, it ends when it wants to end, it’s not your call lol. Message me if you need anything. When the purging is done it will end, Ive heard 6 months to 20 years my friend. Don’t fight the energy, it’s smarter then you. Just let it do it’s thing. also don’t get hung up on it, still not enlightened but in some cases kundalini can help get you there, some say it’s a prerequisite depending on who you talk to.

It hit me hard this morning during my usual 1/2 asleep- 1/2 self inquiry part of my morning, the ego is a made up self, much like many people believe an imaginary man in the sky, This was a deep realization for me.

@Good-boy sorry thought you were trolling.? Leo verified he’s enlightened now?

@Good-boy what’s you’re problem with me dude? Always trolling me. No one on here even bothers to explain to people what kundalini is, all you guys do is talk about 5meo that doesn’t even get you enlightened? Go ahead & name one case aside from the dude that has insomnia, I’ll wait........

@Inliytened1 mine awoke a year ago, had no idea the body was gonna shake & jerk (kryas) I have some really blissed out days & other days very unconscious?‍♂️? defiantly not the same person I was a year or 2 ago. For the better.

@Iksander my kundalini awakened a year ago on an sds sit, the shaking you are experiencing are called kryas, the kundalini is rising & trying to Cleanse the chakras in your body. When the kundalini hits a bump in the system it makes you shake, it’s clearing & purging the psyche (they say) Let them happen & don’t be scared of them or become attached to them, kundalni energy can & will be intense at times, just let it be & don’t fight it, it’s smarter then you. kundalni can also be a pre-requisite prior to enlightenment in some cases. if you ever want to talk, message me. Shinzen young has a video on kundalini on YouTube that’s very helpful & there is a book on Leo’s booklist called enlightenment through the path of kindalini written by Tara springett that was very helpful as well.

Guys like Rupert, adyashanti, mooji, shinzen young do. this is not a who’s guru is better then who’s post either, this dawned on me the other day, think about it all Echart says is be here now, meanwhile self inquiry got him enlightened. Sadguru only said he sat on a rock to mediate & he awakened. just wondering you’re thoughts on the topic.

@Chi_ holy shit! ?