Aaron p

Check this out. This is stage blue Christian chill, gangster rap.

I think this isint talked about at all...where it needs to be talked about the most. This is a massive issue in society and the way certain governments are dealing with it is so fucked up. They aren't anticipating children finding porn (which is pretty common place these days), they aren't explicitly educating them about consent or anything a lot of the time. And the way they deal with persons who breach laws around sex is an absolute joke. I personally find this being talked about extremely refreshing and necessary. People are so emotional and immature about the whole thing. The whole thing is just jacked. But then again I suppose a lot of things the government does are jacked

Queeny ded

People like Jordon Peterson, ben and matt strike me as very intelligent debaters and users of logic and simplicity. What confuses me is that, while I recognize that the natural progression of societal evolution leans in favor of libertarianism, I see a lot of really weird libertarian shit, peterson has been identified by some of us as someone who "brings balance to the force" by being a lib who actually has his head screwed on, unlike the majority of lib civilians who have obese half naked "women" with pink mohawks and rainbow banners that say "allow children to get gender changes at any age". …I was also discussing with a friend more recently about how typically, in the past, when there is a shift in the progress of societal evolution, there tends to be an overswing before an eventual and inevitable re-stabilization but that the overarching movement is still that of progression, positivity and necessity. and so in this regard i can understand why certain lib features may be a little exotic for a while and re-stabilize eventually...but im interested in looking at more stage blue individuals, why is it that people like Jordan Peterson and even Mr. Shapiro have really good debating skills and use of logic when contrasted against that of libertarian's (maybe I'm just looking at the wrong lib people). I just get the feeling that a lot of liberal philosophy is kinda damaging. like with this whole gender thing, there is solid research to suggest that gender related mentall illess exists strong and true and is related to drug abuse and genetic mental health disorders as well as massively increased rates of suicide and self harm even in protected areas where there is little to no bullying or oppression directed at them... i suppose a good example is this...while there are edge cases, the vast majority of trans people arent edge cases and suffer with mental health issues, and im willing to be corrected if im wrong but jordan peterson says that he believes that a man is a man if he has a cock and balls and woman is a woman if she has tits and a vagina and he also says that, while he wont necesarily go out of his way to offend or hurt someone intentionally, principally, if someone wants trys to make him use certain pronouns even if it violates his beliefs then he isint going to do it because its a breach of freedom of speech. Another example is matt's documentary "what is a woman?" which depicts the philosophy that, using modern liberal logic, how can a male identify as a female if females are now not classified as someone who has any kind of feminine features at all...what are they identifying as. What is a woman if you dont need a vagina, tits, long hair, certain biological components... And should liberals and extremeist social justice warriors have the right to have an abortion right up until 1 day before birth and then after birth, heavily encourage the child to consider getting a sex change? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- So, while i can see that libertarianism is obviously correct, what is happening with all this strange gender stuff and are figures like ben, matt and peterson wrong? (I know that there is probably more nuance to these issues and possible different nuances on a case by case basis)...Are these 3 individualds wrong for their approach to transgenderism?

@Godhead I'm very well aware that I'm cherry picking right wing favourite talking points to critique the left...and I know these points are probably not the main reasons why libertarianism should be supported. I'm aware. I guess I'm just checking some of the extreme stuff out. Im a bit of an extremist myself...I'm extremely normal

@LSD-Rumi @LSD-Rumi The surgery thing seems really extreme. I personally know that I don't know enough about the issue to comment absolutely. But I know for sure that if I ever had a son and his teachers started telling him that he can become a girl if he wants, I'll be having words with the board or changing schools. I don't care if other parents encourage their kids to cut their dicks off, im good. Unless there was some really authentic thing...if I seen a really deep and authentic issue. But I'd be much more prepared to entertain that he's maybe just trying to figure himself out and I think it's very possible that people can be wrong in their own self discovery and confused like Leo says...I would certain explore this possibility first...it feels like people are scared to question these things, like it's sacred social justice territory..

Mm, I think I need to have higher standards tbh. It's hard for guys to recognise their own value sometimes. ----------------------------------------- Ok ok I have one last outrageous question: does it make sense to give a transitioning person hormonal treatment to alter their biology, if gender is a social construct and has nothing to do with biological makeup?

@Leo Gura if there was an attractive transgender woman in the club (male transitioned to female), if they've had their penis surgically replaced with a vagina and breasts enlarged, lengthened hair and a trained, higher pitch voice, smaller muscles, feminine body language and all "man hair" lasered off...would you have sex with them?

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Interesting

Alright ok, I'll drop the pink mohawks, BLM and stuff. BLM is extremely important, I guess I'm generalising a lot. I'll even drop the Ben, Matt and Peterson parts... Anyone straight gay black white trans deserves respect... ...I guess just ignore the OP, answer these questions (and I am looking to be corrected if I'm wrong legit): - is it alright to encourage/endorse/accept 10 year olds to question what gender they are and then facilitate the surgery for those children getting permanent gender transitions in combination with regular hormone replacement drugs? - should abortion be allowed up until birth? - have all gender related mental illnesses ceased to exist within the last 30 years? - why are there massively disproportionate suicide, self harm and regular mental illness rates within the LGBTQ+ community even in areas where they don't have to face oppression and bullying? - should someone be punished for not respecting certain LGBTQ+ beliefs by using "correct pronouns"? (By the way, the reason I'm asking these questions is because I'm becoming more involved in libertarianism and progressivism since I was a hardcore stage blue Baptist for 20 years. I'm just trying to gauge the new environment). Respect, peace and love.

@Girzo alright fair enough. But what do you think about the isolated liberal philosophies in the OP?

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@Tyler Robinson i never seen Barack with a pink mohawk and a rainbow banner that says "encourage children to get gender changes" tho. I suppose my simplified question isint about Liberianisniam itself, but the isolated liberal philosophies identified in the OP. Is this just a matter that within each wing there will inevitably be exteemeists and that usually the extremeists on both sides have major flaws.. But the other question is, do we think that the isolated liberal philosophies listed in the OP are or have major flaws at all?

@Tyler Robinson awesome, if im wrong i want to know about it...do you have any links to videos or pages or any names of people who arent cherry picked who i can check out?

anyone?...im legit asking @Leo Gura ?

what the actual fuck, the education system is a complete joke

Has anyone started the path using psycs thinking, "fuck yeah I'm Gona get enlightened as a bitch on wheels and this is Gona be so fun" only to be later hit by stark realisation that this infact is not fun hahaha...but fulfilling and deeply necessary. And kinda fun...but scary as fuck, and a very challenging path indeed? It seems like, for someone who's serious, it's fun fun fun then it's more like going to get surgery every couple months...not fun, scary as shit, but absolutely amazing and extremely powerful and necessary. I'm definitely starting to see awakening practises as more serious than before...it's extremely difficult...I love it...anyone else relate

i feel like i defo need to remember to enjoy the process and to take joy even when its uncomfortable

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MASSIVE insight relating to anxiety. Be ->super-< aware of simple, non-spiritual habits that cause anxiety: - Any habitual and reoccurring consumption of drugs, and chemicals. In order of instrumentality: #1 Top ranking anxiety causing drug Weed (if you struggle with anxiety and you smoke weed and your trying to tackle your anxiety without stopping smoking, you might as well go hunting and leave your gun behind and just use your hands to try kill the bear. It's laughable how obvious this is to me now, for a lot of people). 2# Any Doctor medication you take on a reoccurring basis. Always go with your doctor's advice over someone not professionally qualified, but always be willing to exercise healthy skepticism in the area of, doctor prescribed, medicine if your struggling with anxiety [or any issues, psychological or even physical]...some doctors are #shit and just because they have a degree doesent mean they or their prescriptions are perfectly suited to your biology, at the end of the day...everyone's body will react slightly different to drugs (legal or illegal) and doctors deal with a lott of people, they don't have time to investigate your individual biology unless you pay them and even when they do they miss stuff. #3 Caffeine and other stimulants. Anything that is a drug, substance, or consumable that you take on a reoccurring basis that is in any way psychoactive even indirectly. Even certain foods and drinks... Some slightly more observable ones are energy drinks or deep fried chicken fast food And... - Not enough exposure to environments (physical, social etc). With this one I have found that reaching a point where you are sick to the back teeth of dealing with anxiety and deciding that you can't live with it anymore and you start staring it back right in its eye and choosing to basically say fuck you...it's also realising that your anxiety is not you, like your heart, it can literally be removed and replaced and yet you are not replaced...if your anxiety makes you scared of going near a certain place, metaphorically, you go to the direct center of that spot and fucking BREAKDANCE for 3 hours then you open your calendar and you schedule yourself a new habit to do that once a week for as long as it takes until your anxiety is lying on the floor dead. Amen In short, you kind of need to choose to become a badass who does not fear, fear. Often times you'll find that [if have a problem that is affecting your quality of life] the longer you leave it to fester the more it'll grow and the more you will have developed further fear and respect for it. So you might as well just go directly to the heart of it today and rip it out. It's also usually not as bad as the imagination makes it out to be when you do it for real

I think manipulation is a part of life...at the end of the day you can't do anything unless you control something, if Leo hadn't have manipulated his teachings in such a way that my unconscious mind could receieve it, only to later realise [by becoming conscious through his teachings] that I needed it...I would still be lost and unconscious. I manipulate my car when I drive to work, I intelligently do and say things that I know will emphasis my positive attributes in an interview. I don't crush anyone else when I do it...it's just how certain parts of nature works. There's obviously corrupt forms of control like big Stalin lol...my mate, but you'll often find that [for example] girls want a guy who leads strongly and who breaks their socially acceptable "walls of modesty" down in a socially calibrated fashion. It's an unspoken requirement that certain guys get and certain guys don't. Girls can't not resist, or they'll endanger their ego of being "non-slutty" and if you don't fight for them (or control/manipulate circumstances intelligently) they'll be pissed off. Lots of girls want a guy who dominated to a socially calibrated degree. finding that Ballance is an art...especially with Intuition.

Sometimes I find my body spontaneously goes and sits on the pillow and does a practise that I don't know how to do...still to this day

Can you mix MDMA, Benzo's, or SSRI's? (kind of important)

@Aleister Crowleyy Haha your a mad bastard mate. Nice