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you sir, have a bad batch. when you get proper 5meo, it will be like a nuclear bomb to the left eyebrow

Haha yes!

Just another thank you friend. You are absolutely brill. Your work has given me the strength I need and will need in the future. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. I have the utmost respect for you, my teacher. I love you man

This is quite a key point for me, because it's hard to identify the difference between regular mental health issues and insights of power and authentic spirituality. For example what is the difference between Depersonalization (the category of mental illness relating to the sense that you are not real) and an awakening into the truth of no self (the realisation that you are not real). And the same for the sense of a real external reality... I'm hoping to get an objective answer. ---------------------------------------------------- Leo, is the defining factor you use to distinguish these two [similar sounding] phenomena, purely a matter of remaining functional as a human?

@Yimpa thanks bro

@OBEler

I have never experienced depersonalization or derealization myself personally. I suppose the truth will set me free and it will bring to nothing simultaneously. Just not the nothing I currently imagine. But I will definitely be seeking it. We don't need to worry about falling into a trap of seeking that which cannot be found...we have 5meo analogues. There is something extremely real to be sought and found and its magnitude is greater than we can all imagine. I suppose we're finding the ballance. Recognising that the ego can be dissolved whilst the body and mind and human dream can continue with full health, socialisation, growth and penetrating success. Almost like we can have our cake and eat it

@Moksha awesome words I like your description of healthy ego dissolution. So it is connected to functionality. The individual remains functional, if anything he will be leaps and bounds ahead of where he was originally in terms of functionality. In one way I suppose to look at it, awakening doesent eradicate the requirements to feed and nurture the body and mind. The self remains but it is seen through as illusory and fictitious. And I suppose becoming aware that the dream or "movie" of life is just an illusory story could only motivate one to develop and create a great movie! For its own beauty

i remember how you said one time, @Leo Gura, that awakening can be done incorrectly very easily and in many different ways. I suppose its a matter of ones own intuition to determine healthy growth vs unhealthy growth (or premature stress)...

Its quite scary for the ego, this loopy feeling everything feels like it's getting dark and heavy sometimes. It makes my jaw clench. I've noticed that certain intelligent people intentionally don't push too far, I think because they fear what's there. Any wisdom or advice regarding how to deal with this kind of thing, or if it sounds healthy or unhealthy. PEACE

i suffered endlessly with indescribable torture for a long time. i beat it. i feel great, maybe try SSRI's. a strategic approach to classical mental health meds can be very useful, mankind has some tools that can be useful. good for a "rut" situation if your really stuck

Do leos life purpose course if your looking for something lifelong, im going through it right now...cuz even though im setting up my own business at the same time, i know i need a life purpose. The ego will still exist in part even after an awakening or two id imagine, the sense of self, its just that it'll be seen through with clear light. So the ego still needs that deep central purpose. in any case, here are some tips that i found useful (some are leo inspired some are my own): - Find someone (more ideally multiple differnt people or groups of people) who have accomplished what you want to do and find a way to get them to share their wisdom with you. i did this, i got a specialist business coach and community in sales and its badass. - Try the "copy someone else" strategy (extremely and profoundly powerful). - Use the app "stickk" to set up a paid accountability partner wherein you pay them if you dont meet the deadlines you set for yourself (you can have someone be a referee as well to verify you've completed the task). i also use this. - Be extremely determined (you can just force this with unlimited determination and/or harness the power of your values. If you value something deeply you'll be more motivated to do it). one that ive got more in touch with recently is... - get in touch with your body, i think humans tend to ignore their body unless its not working correctly or to a satisfactory level. Yoga, dance, acting...expression and connection as well as exercise. - and, drugs. You need to be mindful of what drugs you need to avoid (psycs can incur demotivation, as can lots of substances and foods). not getting enough h20, correct sugar, managing alcohol/niccotine/coffee consumption, and being sensitive to your mind, if you think you may have any natural "mental disorders" like ADHD, BPD, GAD, SAD, autism, whatever...i think adhd is way more common than people think, its also one that can be increased by excessive gaming in teen years and stuff like that. out of all of these community and >people< are your most powerful tools, being connected to the right people, being disconnected from the wrong people. its also helpful in business if you can be ruthless and harsh when you need to be

Yeah I remember you saying in one of your episodes that it can feel like your going insane lol, how fun. No, not lately. Been doing sober practice, I've had some extremely powerful and difficult sober practices...amazing progress builders.

Just Wana make sure I'm doing it in a healthy way. I suppose it might be like workout out with a heavy weight in the gym, you know to expect pain and that pain is a sign of growth and development, but you also are able to distinguish between growth pain and damaging pain, like a pulled muscle or stretched ligament...and that to a large degree, it just comes down to intuition, careful intuition.

I became a milk bottle one time in a grey dimension of simplicity and greyness one time lol.

At a very high level Christ is the single and only begotten son of God. And he is god. The thing is you are him. Christianity is beautiful, just don't fall into the ideology. What the symbolism of Christianity represents is in no way recognised by Christians.

@Leo Gura thank you for being selfless enough to post this bro, you know it will make to look proud, and yet you care more about guiding us correctly than your own appearance. This is a very rare trait, thank you

I will

Its an interesting thought. One that I know has very good chance of being true from my own investigation. I literally have no free will typing this message. And if I am to say "screw that, I choose to get rich" this is also only response to the initial stimuli

23 lol

This is an episode I would love to see. I struggle greatly with morality and struggle to see where it fits in with awakening...seeing as good and bad don't exist, I would absolutely love to hear some stuff about why I should even be a good man. I struggle to find the reason why I should actually be a good man at all. Does morality have a place at all? I've been very confused about this topic for a long time. ---------- The Christian model of awakening suggests that love flows effortlessly after awakening and that it doesent come from a sense of morality but a sense of general love that is nearly accidental. We have been made righteous through death, and the law was not made for the eyes of a righteous man. ... But awakening can take years, I wonder if morality has even a place for the young seeker who isint awake yet...

Yeah watch out, Christianity is a warping trap dressed with cloaks of kindness and softness. There is truth to it, but your mind will get warped by all the indirect unecessary symbolism. A good rule of thumb is this: no matter what direction your going, always be careful not to overstretch the mind. Stretch, yes... overstretch, no... Like any Extremely powerful thing, Leo's catalog of teachings can also be dangerous if you don't apply it in the right way. I think sometimes people don't understand that the teachings here are military grade, life and death. It's pretty serious stuff...

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You'll just be manipulating the drugs in your brain. You can't get away from chemicals