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Considering a very real element of self improvement is fulfilling your hearts desires and allowing yourself to burn through it...that seems pretty enjoying to me, entertaining

I'm rich, ripped and enlightened and a pickup expert.. ;P

If I posted half of the riskiest shit I've done here the fbi would come flying through my windies haha

just listen

NLT has the best accuracy to modern intelligibility ratio The "Message" translation is less accurate than NLT but could easily be understood by children KJV is the oldest, Shakespeare styled, poetic [and subsequently memorable] version, but is hardest to understand. Or if you want to read it from the original Hebrew and Arabic you can use a Bible Interlinear (https://biblehub.com/interlinear/) There are also extra books in the catholic bible called "Books Of The Apocrypha" which were rejected in protestant reformation. There are further books that were written that weren't included at all called "The Lost Books of the Bible and the Forgotten Books of Eden" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lost_Books_of_the_Bible_and_the_Forgotten_Books_of_Eden) You also have the book of mormon which is the only one i havent cared to look into as much (https://abn.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm?lang=eng&adobe_mc_ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.churchofjesuschrist.org%2Fstudy%2Fscriptures%2Fbofm%3Flang%3Deng&adobe_mc_sdid=SDID%3D43545309C66023D8-238A26FE66D17777|MCORGID%3D66C5485451E56AAE0A490D45%40AdobeOrg|TS%3D1652026355) Mormonism is a offshoot of mainstream christianity, as are Jehovah's witnesses who each have their own translations of what would be considered by protestants the "original" bible. All christianity is based on Judaism and is a continuation of such. Typical jews only believe the first 5 books of the bible which they call the "Torah". Each sect and offshoot regards other sects and offshoots as heretical, with Catholicism and Protestantism the two most powerful strains currently in existence. However you will not extract the bullshit by using one version of the bible over the other...to extract the bullshit you have to allow the spirit to bring about direct revelation in your heart as to the hidden symbolism and mysteries that lie in biblical texts. Revelations like the baptism of the holy ghost (which i feel resembles awakening) which was seen to be a second experience with the spirit of God after faith was established (acts19:1-6) the baptism of fire and power. Or why the tree of damnation in eden was called the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" and reference back to leos video about how good and evil are dualities based on the illusory sense of ego. A good guide to christian mysticism would be listening to who i would call a christian half-mystic andrew wommack on youtube (and combine it with what you hear leo talk about, but still prioritizing Leo). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DufFDG6up0o --- side note: there is power in the bible and undeniable truths that the spirit has sustained through its refinement. Direct truths like "God is love" 1 John 4:8 or recognising that jesus is a symbol of yourself. Historical documentation does heavily suggest that jesus existed, but i have yet to witness any first hand miracles, and ive tried...ive tried hard (with an exception to very occasional and loose healing and prophecy). Psychedelics are the only real miracles ive witnessed...but im always going to remain open minded and after 5meo a miracle doesent seem that big

ironically, through awakening the sense of self is strengthened and then detached from. Theres nothing wrong with having a strong sense of self and self purpose, awakening strengthens these things, its just then not identifying with it. Im pretty sure thats how it works. im also pretty sure that in meditation or self enquiry, people actively try to force the sense of self to go away which is conceptually creative (bad) when if you just relax, be honest with yourself about what it is you believe you are, not trying to get rid of it but allowing it to arise and noticing the space between it and the perceiver, it brings about faster results and more authentic results

read psycho cybernetics

god can heal but its more of like a gradual, get what you expect, psychological thing i think

@BipolarGrowth your beard is righteous

There seems to be a paradox between the inability to use the mind to awaken and the requirement of the mind to be allowed to become more conceptual in the stages leading up to the psychological stillness found in turquoise levels of development. In layman's terms, we cant use the mind (thoughts and concepts) to attain spiritual awakening (which is true)…but i feel like this may create a problem when stage blue, green and orange people simply stop thinking and stop using concepts altogether (like a religious person trying to stop sinning as if it'll get them into heaven). Or like when someone says that watching your breath is enough to attain awakening where leo clearly states it isint enough. I feel like it would be useful to note here that there are different stages in the journey, the most advanced of which focus on the stillness of the mind, where yellow stages focus more on advanced levels of conceptual growth etc. I feel like there is a trap for stage orange and green people, in that they hear turquoise teachers telling them to shut off their mind permanently, leaving out the fact that this stillness is designed to create space for more conscious, effective and heightened use of concepts, thoughts and ideas in a more pragmatic, survival oriented fashion concerning levels lower than that of awakening, levels that are [for most] required to pass through before moving wholeheartedly into the domain of actual enlightenment. I feel like for the longest time i was avoiding using my mind at all because turquoise teachers were teaching how to move into awakening by stilling the mind, failing to mention the fact that the conceptual mind has to be increased massively before the pendulum swings back in the direction of psychological stillness. green, orange and yellow level individuals need to know that the mind is not just some rabid beast in the corner to be caged and punished, it is a beautiful, loud instrument to be vibrantly expressed...especially when (unlike our Buddhist friends) psychedelics are our strongest weapon, not silence..

@KoryKat what youve said here is true haha. lots of people just hear the lingo and just repeat the phrases they hear leo saying. There is an element of positivity in it...in that the expectation to know is sort of a vital first step, to have the balls to assume that you could understand it...it would be better for someone to think they can know rather to think they cant know. your still right, has to be met with practises in reality

thanks bruv

ive had some mad syncs. with spoken words...i would be communicating something to someone and say a word at the exact same time as the word is spoken by someone on tv. There was this one time where this guy i knew started talking to me about "cosmic energy" as the energy of the room got...more excited...unconsciously...the few of us that were there started feeling increased...energy...and laughing more and more and we had to stop ourselves as if we were being forced. Then me and the fried randomly spat out 3 exactly the same words at the same time...i cant remember what they were but that was weird

@Muhammad Jawad i struggled with the exact same thing bro. My studies on this matter arent finalized yet but here are a few of my findings. Hurt people, hurt people. Pain breeds pain. And if your going through the process of awakening, your pain will get worse before it gets better. Which means, in the short term, a person pursuing awaking may actually be a worse person morally, psychologically etc before it births peace and moral uprightness. From what i can tell...ultimately all immorality comes from a lack of consciousness theoretically. In this regard im referring to the elements of consciousness responsible for 1: informed and contextualized knowledge on how certain actions activate short or long chains of events that lead to other people being hurt, and 2: the understanding that hurting people is not necessary or good (because they are the same as you, and you dont deserve to be hurt.) here is a key insight: you will not become enlightened easily by simply being more moral and morality is not an effective way to go about trying to get enlightened. This is a problem in Christianity called "good works". Which comes first? Love or good works. Which one stimulates the other? Good works can stimulate small degrees of love, but it is love that stimulates any and all forms of good works. The problem is that people see this and then just do good works thinking they're filled with love/god. Truthfully, morality doesent have very much to do with salvation/awakening at all...other than the fact that it is (and can only ever authentically be) an accidental byproduct of your awakening practices. However this does not mean that you cannot be moral and on the path to enlightenment...another key here is that you can be moral if you want, but authentic morality only exists when there is absolutely no reward for it whatsoever...when the only motivation is simply because it feels good...because you want to be moral for no reason at all...because you love. Ephesians 2:8-9 "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast."

its just interesting that the only thing leo communicates to us is concepts and the only way in which something can be conveyed at all is through concepts. Concepts seem to be super important for enlightenment, i mean at the most basic level, if someone hadn't have told you the concept of enlightenment then you wouldnt know to do the practices at all. Then of course these clever concepts are designed to be meta, and denote the limited nature of themselves and eventually they end themselves to give way to awakening to reality that exists independent of concepts...the fact stands that concepts are extremely important and using the mind is not a bad thing at all. @BipolarGrowth i like what you say here...its just i feel like there is this unhealthy idea around mindfulness that you just have to force your mind to stop and thats it. But that gets loads of immature buddhists into trouble, where they're just sitting there in silence thinking their enlightened. I think i agree with you bipolar, stillness of mind doesent necessarily mean stillness of thoughts. and mind-emptiness is very similar to mind-fullness. its a strange one. most people treat mindfulness as something that you just sit and dont question anything and be silent until you die...where our approach is use the mind infinitely more than normal people... perhaps mindfulness isint the lack of thought, but the lack of attachment to thought... my intuition says that i need to be pressing further into the mind, not forcing it to shut down...its almost as if ive got this idea in my head of silence, and im focusing on that idea of silence. I get the strong feeling that anything other than relaxation is just an idea, and the mind opens when its relaxed, it doesent close...it becomes more full, and its full of emptiness, but not an emptiness that i can anticipate, manipulate or force....only surrendered to. strangely, i feel like grasping too much onto this idea of silence, makes the mind go into this obsessive, prison state like you said...where, instead of becoming full, it focuses relentlessly on the image or concept of silence

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@PenguinPablo building a cabin sounds so cool

@mojsterr fuck dmt man. you dont get bliss if you push harder you just get more directionless chaos and terror haha. fuck that. what your talking about (pushing through the terror till the breakthrough to get to bliss) is 5meo. Ive never had a good experience with DMT really...unless i take 150mg MDMA an hour before hand. Im off all psychs atm, need to build my egoic existence a bit before i tear it to shreds (which i still very much intend to do).

@BeachBliss thank you!

...is it likely to derail or speed up my motivation, creativity and drive? I don't want to derail any momentum I'm building with new business start up, but if 5meo makes you smarter and more aware, maybe it'll help with starting a new business...? I'd really appreciate some sound advice from people who have a fair idea as to the side effects of 5meo when starting something like a business @Leo Gura

Well yeah First of all DMT can cause harm. Treat it like any other extremely powerful tool. However if yous are Gona use it safely then maybe a few of his reservations could be stemming from any one or number of the following paths of reasoning; - they're bound to be illegal for a reason. - what happens isint real therefore there is nothing tangible to be gained from tripping. - it's fake. For the first one, why are cigarettes not illegal...when the entire government clearly knows 50% of smokers die of something smoking related...if all bad things were illegal, wouldn't alcohol and cigarettes be outlawed even though they're obviously bad. Government cares about money not truth. Also psychedelics aren't illegal in a bunch of countries. Also doctors use illegal drugs, diluted forms.lf heroin. Secondly, a basic understanding of perceptions will grant you the logical conclusion that what is happening is real if your experienceing it. Otherwise how could you experience it? Like if I was to say my night time dream last night wasn't real, yes it was...I experienced it. It wasn't physical but it was real. I suppose that also cover the "it's fake" reservation. You also gotta remember that some people just follow the herd and plainly aren't interested in truth. Some people are just wrong and they'll just stay like that haha, and you can't do much. The only thing you could do in that situation would be to spike their coffee with LSD and force truth on them...but that wouldn't be cool haha If he's just scared give him the tiniest starting dose ever

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@Leo Gura it hasnt seemed to slow your motivation...or derailed any of your drive for actualized.org...?