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All these thoughts just stay in the way of God? Care to elaborate? By all these thoughts do you mean ALLLLL thoughts ever or just those? Why do you ask if I see myself fighting for survival? And why do you ask the second question? Interesting stuff..... Oh, more Q: How do I write text in between the different quotes?

I'm not really sure why yet, because for 1 I was not full of BS, and two I am not a devil. FYI, I was watching it for a lil while, yes. Hell, for all I know Leo could have said that to make others think that. Or because the ideas were just THAT great. Or because the main goal is to stop the thinking or something...xD

I've been humble about this for weeks haha. I think it's been months. Who knows...I'm not going to go check the timestamp. Needless to say, my relationship is not that great with Leo, I didn't really know what to think haha. Just another reason for making this post.... You said "it is very hard to talk and understand what spirituality is, when you don't actually do certain practices" and well, a very major point of mine was to emphasize just how much of an unknown it all is(there's multiple topics here). With that being said, I should probably say that that was coming from the point of view of a newbie. Now, I will say, your comment was a little bit more difficult to answer than the others and I do not think my answer is 100% complete, but I did not say anything about your last paragraph. In fact it is the last paragraph that kind of throws me off if I am trying to read the whole post while staying on track to the end and trying to keep in mind what to reply with as the information grows till the end. Coincidentally I think the last paragraph also matches that feeling with a sense of less importance, if you know what I mean. All in all in just seems like a bit of an example to what you said before.

Well, that's good to hear....

First of all, if at the end of day THAT is what it comes down to then why would Leo call me a devil hmm? To actually answer your question though, well...Once you start using the If/Then things in regards to psychedelics/astral projection/or mb even meditation then it obviously has it's place. In my original post, I was only connecting it to those things, but for this post I figured it would be best to deviate away a bit.

@OctagonOctopus I would recken that although Leo could have been correct in saying that I am self deceived that it does not mean what I said was not true. and believe it or not, before I saw your comment I said to myself: "If I am a devil then/than....." that was kind of interesting, but I don't think it accomplished anything.

@Serotoninluv I like the way it sounds the other way haha but ok ok, its true, I didn't really know which one is grammatically correct even though I received mostly As all through high school....LOL honestly, if I had to be precise I would have chosen THEN just because of that is what is used in programming and programming uses a lot of If/Thens.......

I will give you an alien example again though ok. IF aliens have visited Earth THAN....imagine how much more advanced they must be compared to us. IF the government knows that they are real THAN....imagine how much secret stuff they know which we never even conspire about. If the government is actually in communication with them THAN......IF any of the conspiracies are true THAN it's much deeper than we think and IF that is the case THAN..........(something)...and IF that THAN...(something).............ect ect ect ect ect ect idk, i think it works better if think on your own. mb that is why i used the word imagine so much(above) lol....who knows....

@Aldo Dude(dudette), I was saying. IF ____THAN____ IF_____ THAN_____ IF _______THAN ........................ The original post never mentioned aliens, I was just using that as an example here. Even if I did make errors, I was a called a devil by the admin and he never proved anything wrong.

Hello, So quitting nicotine seems like a pretty big thing.... ..I use a Juul to vape and I also do not use it that much soo, what is the big deal? Not nearly as bad for health as smoke and I don't use very much....why quit?

Title is self explanatory I think.....

Why only once per week?

LOL. The point of this post if to figure out the truth.....

How are yall confused about the question..... Has anybody heard of the book Be Here Now...Or The Power of Now.... @ajasatya I think you know what my question meant lol.....

@Leo Gura You said ".....time WILL cease to exist" yet you also said in the next sentence that every experience you've ever had has been timeless....... Any clarification here? I mean, those two sentences do contradict each other in a way right?

How does one "un-drill" something from their mind?? lol

I just don't really see why it's bad if I don't use it much..... Is it? less focus less on the health side of it though.....

@CreamCat I really don't know why people say "peace, love and smoke DMT", like why do you tell people to use one of the most potent psychedelic drugs.....its pretty dam potent..... and here man? oh, can LSD really be smoked lol?

I'm dealing with a little something myself.... Umm, someone in this thread had suggested seeing someone who you could talk to or whom may be able to help you which will not call you crazy if you were to tell them this stuff, well, I can honestly tell you that there are people out there like that. It will probs cost money though, or if you find the right one mb it won't. Just use google. I have personally had like energy stuff done and reiki and what not and more than once the people who I spoke to and/or booked a session with were willing to talk to me far beyond the rough time limit thing...some I stayed in contact with for a little while too(like days....................) or even checked in with weeks/months down the road....

May I ask why you quit..... See, I use a Juul and I do not use very much either, so I don't really see what the big deal is.....

I repeat, WARNING. I am about to open whomever may be reading this to the idea that everything you have heard about psychedelics or astral projection is a lie. This is huge. Stick with me it may be a little tricky to explain, not exactly sure yet because I have never tried putting it into words. First of all I want to say that, it being a lie is not the only way that I could put that. I'll explain. It has to do with the fact that once you have researched enough about psychedelics and listened to enough trip reports the possibilities of what you may be getting into are waaaaaay out there. For ex: Many people have reported other civilzations, worlds, realities, beings, technology.... states of consciousness....you name it. WELLLLLLLLLLLL if those things are possible, then is it not possible that the people who have taken large doses of psychedelics could have entered some sort futuristic world in which they now permanently reside while their body here on earth is controlled by a computer???? GUYS! This is the type of stuff I am talking about. Leo may not actually be living here anymore. Ok. ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING that's out and available to the public which has to do with all this stuff could ALLLL be meticulously made and created as a part of one giant plan which has mostly been calculated out by the same computer which could be controlling Leo's old body right now. There doesn't even have to be a computer. Just use your imagination and realize the possibilities is what I'm saying...... You can now combine absolutely everything that you don't know about all this mumbo jumbo (spiritual stuff, meditation, you name) with the fact that there are tons of conspiracies(since those are not completely known either) including like, that earth was seeded hundreds of thousands of years ago by aliens or something, that our real history is hidden from us, all the illuminati stuff, Idk, you can basically come up with whatever the heck you want. In fact, astral projection could actually lead to the same exact thing that a breakthrough dose of DMT leads to. In other words, any out of body experience whether its from lsd or what could all lead to the same place. That place could be like your initiation zone, your checkpoint, your........ literally a place to reveal the truth without the others knowing. Hundreds of thousands if no millions of people across the globe could have already briefed on the cover up. It could all be a complete cover up. 100%. All up and down the board even. IF YOU HAVE DONE HIGH DOSES OR HAD ANY OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCE, YOU INPUT HERE IS NOT NEEDED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN ANYTHING WHEN REFERRING TO WHAT I HAVE JUST SPOKEN ABOUT. O right, unless you are just compounding upon the topic idea/fact....

So do you guys need me to list a humongous source of information right now or not? Like, if you havn't done any research on psychedelics then gtfo, you can't judge what I said. If you have then you would know that people report all kinds of crazy shit. WHAT I AM SAYING IS THAT: You can use your imagination to imagine what is REALLY POSSIBLE, if what has been reported is true. Like if aliens are real and have visited earth, then you can use your IMAGINATION to be able to determine that there is a HELL OF A LOT MORE TO IT. Like, IF IT IS TRUE then it goes MUCH DEEPER. That is how it is with most of the unknown, whether it be psychedelics and trip reports or aliens or 9/11......... It's just that it get really deep guys. This is something that can NOT be denied. If you guys do not know what I mean that is not MY fault.

The psychedelic experience could have created the people in the users life long before they ever used a psychedelic. I have not had an out of body experience no.

Exploring the unknown is sketchy because you are exploring the UNKNOWNNN. You don't know if it is safe or sketchy, I mean you literally don't even know if @Leo Gura or your friend who astral projected is possessed or some shit. You literally don't even know if the people who you wento KINDERGARTEN with were real or have always been a part of a conspiracy or possesed or something because the conspiracy could be part of a virtual reality video game set up for YOUR OWN personal experience. and yes it would involve psychedelics and everything some how.

@Leo Gura So you know how sound when played does not sound like there is space in between, but if you zoom in it becomes a vibration with space in between...? You had said "you" could say awareness is there all the time or say it doesn't exist at all..... Does it have an oscillation/vibration? Could that vibration like, be visible to us as welll...For ex: When meditating sometimes you will begin thinking and then you bring your attention back to whatever your suppose to bring it back to. The oscillation there would be the going between what is focused on and the wandering mind/thinking or whatever............ Anyways whether it is visible to us or not, is there a vibration with space/no awareness in between? If so, I don't blame Mingyur for getting into it that deep. I did have one other idea and it is that awareness just doesn't exist at all, yet is also there in a way...... Like WE ARE AWARE, awareness is not an ACTUAL thing existing though.....the thing existing is US, the ones who ARE aware. Is that a possiblity? Oh god, then there is the being aware of being aware thing, but I guess that still works lol.....in reference to what I just described above. I bet if both my ideas were correct you could even combine them in a way haha Ya just so people know none of what I said is fact, I'ma just thinking.......... FYI: I can only imagine what you can not put into words Leo.......