Jack River

Or unknows The words/thought comes in after the unknowning , right @cetus56

Action that is not influenced by psychological movement or choice. Action born of order.

I see this first hand too. Nice @deci belle

When we think the machine is the ground/truth, the machine chews us up and spits us out.

Thought is a machine

I don’t know, but if you look deeper you see that all that has to do with thought. Thought seeking security, controlling, defending by sustaining its own illusion. The society using the and controlling the individual to get what it wants, and the individual also seeking to fulfill its own psychological needs. All this psychological seeking a projection of traditions on/culture. The self feeding loop of psychological becoming. The machine being thought and it’s inherent nature to secure itself by conforming, imitating, self sustaining. Anyway I was listening to this song and that’s what came to mind.

Yeah I bet. That would be pretty awesome?

The nothingness of Truth is aware of that of reality. Fosho

I do that everyday dude. Sometimes at night. ?

Floating out in sea in in total silence. This unknown is always so empty. Crazy crazy

Yep. It’s not a knowing. Thought comes in and says how excellent that actuality was the remembering, the knowing, the becoming is not. The silence of nothingness/unknown

That’s right dude. It’s Most excellent.

I feel ya doggy. The unknowable recognizes itself as such

Could also be seen as an ending of remembrance huh.. Pretty cool. We eventually see that the becoming is the projection of the rememberance. Totally crazy how it all falls into place with that mega insight heh?

Only “enlightenment” is projected, pursued, and captured. But that in its structure is fixed. Anything fixed is still influenced by reaction/conditioned mind. Reaction and conditioning projects and clings to it’s end goal. This is resistance. Resistance to what is, as in change. To end this resistance by clinging to the patterns of thought, as in desire/thought content, is to flow with change. Attachment to thought movement means resistance to change dude. This seriously blew my limited mind appart brah

For me I saw that motive=fear. And motive goes way deeper than the usual conscious awareness that is distorted by self. self does t recognize the subtle motive/fear. We think we are aware of all fear movement, but it slips through undetected.

But the motive is deep within the reaction of thought. Motive/desire/thought are really one. If there is a psychological seeking we will inherently add labels and projects the contents of thought/self. When I saw the truth of this it blew mind away dude. When we see it as fact/truth we don’t move in the pattern of thought projection anymore. The unknown doesn’t come about in kind cultivation. Which includes motive/desire in pursuit.

To empty the mind of the past, all the things of thought, is something else dude.

@abrakamowse hope dude...does hope prevent freedom? Does hope kill freedom? Can you totally disregard all you ever heard about “enlightenment”?, and start from scratch. Can you see that the end/gaol corrupts from the start? Does these means that have been passed down through tradition/thought in there nature block freedom?

@seeking_brilliance it’s all good. I’m not into arguing either. I feel ya. I am with you. We are on the same side. We are the same after all. Thank you too?

Is being motivated by the goal a part of that energy wastage? The goal to become a thing of thought.

@abrakamowse what is the nature of what blocks seeing? Things like fear/desire/choice/assumption/clinging to bias/resistance and such. This seeing=unlimited energy/love. All things that prevent the seeing are what limits energy/love.

Comprehend all the contents of the conditioned consciousness. With that total comprehension there is its ending. The the unknown is allcthat is left dude.

Total comprehension of what prevents that seeing brah. ? but not verbal/intellectual comprehension.

Understanding the nature of the self does reveal that dude. self understanding Understanding what isn’t love dudes. Pretty simple really. I don’t know what the confusion here is.