Jack River

@DrewNows feel ya man.

Step out of the sprectrum dude. In that total/compete action consciousness will tend to follow in that direction. The direction of no direction lol. Be the catalyst brah.

To Transend the field of opposites dudes...that is stepping out of the stream of conditioned mind. Culture/tradition/thought implicitly sustains this conditioning. The self gets conditioned by culture and that self continues to feed that conditioning by clinging/accepting/conforming to its conditioning. A loop of self sustained conditioning that means any real substantial change becomes impossible. A shame fosho.

Lol cooperation easily can be self centered movement. giving also can be motivated my self seeking gratification/validation therefore not actually giving but still accumulating. The motive is determined by conditioning. self is very tricky and will disguise its activity as other than what it is.

Yep. Conditioning runs deep for self/society to cling to its tradition/cultural values. Continual resistance to change. Therefore disorder dudes.

Actually people do believe in happiness. They, as in thought, seems to try and and control itself to bring about a state of happiness. This action and belief are really the same. This insight is huge dude. Part of the underlying insight that comprehends the whole of thought.

@Serotoninluv Ok dude. party on man ?

Fosho. Buddhism or not that is part of self and it’s tendency to adhere to thought(its contents or the familiar). Both Choice/reaction. Doesn’t take learning Buddhism language to see that though. Thsk choice/reaction/measure/progressive/gradual process, why not just step out of that stream dude?

It just seems to promote “self” improvement/psychological growth. Seems like it might keep people bound in psychological time. As if freedom is a gradual process/progresssion. That’s all dude. It may not be what it’s about, but people will definitely fall in that pattern of thought conforming to its structure. Then falsely labeling others according to this concept. After all we can never know another, hell, we can’t even know ourselves . self is quite dynamic. Not an attack on your scheme, just it’s good if a few people are able to totally step out of the stream of the conditioned consciousness/progressive path.

This attachment to resist what is...learn how that hold you hostage brah.

Or is there any entity to accept or not? See the falseness of this entity dude. Actually see the falseness of it. When you actually SEE, there will be no compulsion to accept or not to accept. There will no longer be any movement in either direction psychologically. Has nothing to do with practice. Practice/habit is a mind/thought pattern which means you are still within that conditioned field of self. You might then see that practice/cultivation from a place of “me” is simply keeping that division alive dude. Life is to short brah. End it now, why put it off in time. It can be said that to cultivate a freedom from self is still a form of resistance. Freedom acts now. It’s not a thing achieved in time. Keep exploring the depths of self/thought brah?

Maybe she will totally step out of this color scheme progression instead. Then she may be unbound by any particular classification and enslavment of mind with its measure

@sarapr yep tradition/culture/thought holds a girl down fosho.

Sometimes Gilbert Gottfried, sometimes Robert Francis Goldthwait.

But when those thoughts stop occurring. Wow. The me thoughts/voice/psychological judgement & evaluation. What when awareness has silenced all psychological movement/thought? As in Mental commentary. When there is no mental chatter anymore, then what is left?.. Is it awareness or actually a type of unawareness? mind blowing, most excellent.

It being one process or movement. Fosho.

Careful not to disidentify with the voice as well. Thought will attribute to itself as being an independent reality that stands outside thought itself. It may also identify with an idea that has been picked up along the way. The self/voice is structured to self-sustain this “independent existense”. It does so by thinking to itself I am the voice and also by saying I am not the voice. In order to not get caught here understand its subtle movement patterns and how they all connect and can be identified as one unit of psychological motion. This was most excellent for me.?

This energy your talking about only comes about when all conflict/self comes to an end. And to practice to attain no conflict/self feeds the contradicting action of self that wastes energy on that contradiction. Has nothing to do with an experience dudes. Goes way beyond experience.

Yogi/guru, serious? Common dudes

solutions feed the “me”...that being said understanding ego/self which is to understand thought?

It’s also implicit in any technique that there is this control. Be amazed how often this control takes place when think otherwise.

I tried this a long time ago back in the day. When we understand the nature of control we may see that any concentrated attention is control. Concentrated observation, like on your breath or diagram, is to focus thought on a part of experience. Any direction of thought is control. What is control, what is not control? maybe a good place to start.

Spirituality?? This is more of a common sense. There were no assumptions made on my part brah. Although when I read over your post to me there were multiple. There were not any sides taken on my part either.. No opinions were made. No criticism either. What I shared is simply what is. This will be observed when you/me “we” are no longer influenced by fear/division.

do you understand what I said?

Yeah Lol. Or because we fear impermanence. That what we know is coming to an end. And what lies beyond. Thought anticipates what will be. Defense mechanism fosho. I think the mystery was/is sensed but we hadn’t/don’t understood that thought was itself no means of exploring the mystery. The mystery is a mystery because it is whole. It would take somthing whole to explore that. But thought ain’t that. I feel ya