Jack River

To depend on any authority, especially our own (past knowledge, experience) to transcend the fact of what is from moment to moment, will always lead to and susitan confusion. The self seeking certainty/permanence in time(itself)... Confusion breeding loop.

Confusion arises out of the impulse to choose between “things” of thought. The mind is looking to depend on some sort of knowledge and exclude its own reality to transcend it’s confusion. As if the self was distinct from the confusion. The self(the chooser) is the confusion. Any action of the chooser will meet the fact with the abstraction which sustains the confusion. A self is confused because it’s always trying to escape what is to ‘what it thinks, or doesn’t think it should be’(the past)(thought). The self says what do “I” do about this moment to moment insecurity... So the self in its very confused state tries to choose from that state of confusion. No matter what it chooses to do about the fact remains nonfact(abstraction)...this is resistance which sustains a duality between what is and what should be(conflict).

The thinker cannot be original. Time has the thinker by the neck.

Identification doesn’t take place when there is awareness. Only within the field of time is there any identification.

The response of thought is a movement from “the past”/modified “present”/and projected as “future”.

It is both actual and not actual. Just depends how your are using the word actual. Movement is, until it isn’t. I talk about this a lot.

Awareness doesn’t exclude

Still a movement

Any identification(resistance/attachment) or continuity of TIME/FEAR

Thinking implies a movement of identification(to recognize). The process of attachment/identification which implies resistance denies love. Time is thought, and when time is in movement there is no love.

Thought loves to identify with/as god, awareness, or what ever. Identification itself implies resistance. Step out of the river of time dudes.

In your direct experience what co-exists with such movements of delusion? Control fear effort resistance & etc.. obviously belief goes hand and hand with the above, and truth is denied as a result. Moving within these patterns(seeking shelter in them) implies that truth is not very important to us at all right? If truth in daily life was important to us would our action be influenced by control, effort, which imply resistance? What is implied in living true? Do we see that fear, anger, jealousy (psychological insecurity) and seeking psychological security in “things” (belief/habit/objects) implies that truth is pushed further and further away and denied? Is belief for the mind that resists truth?

Maybe the past is responsible for this “I”...If so, are you responsible for your actions?, or are these past actions responsible for the you? if so, are actions taken from moment to moment actions that are influenced by that movement of the you? What would be the implications of this movement/actions? Would they point to what is meant by responsibility, or irresponsibility?

As the past (entity-self/ego..time) we cling to that movement of time to bring about a state of wholeness, but wholeness is not a state. This self clinging to itself(time) projects its own continuity as the present moment(the past). Therefore wholeness/completeness is consistently pushed further and further away in time, which is the very movement responsible for incompleteness/unholiness.

Thought loves to achieve, arrive, become (in time). Thoughts pursuit to “achieve that” (desire/effort) extinguishes the possibility of enlightening what-is (seeing clearly). As long as we are solely interested in “that” we will ignore “the this” (what is). As long as we ignore the truth of what’s immediately in front of us (the fact) then to see what is beyond (the abstraction) will be imprecise-incomplete. The known/knower(time) will then obviously obstruct and continue to cast its own shadow over the beauty of the timeless unknown. Do we see that the motive based on reward and punishment ultimately determines the possibility to look at what is? And if we are unable to look at without distortion the what-is of self/thought/time, then how is there a looking at the what is of Truth? As in, are we here to seek pleasure and avoid pain or are we here to investigate what is without that distortion?

Fosho. It can all be observed directly by any of us. But when these images/ideas/thoughts(likes, dislikes)(psychological time) are in full swing we are unable to see the entirety of all of that arising directly. Unable to then see what is as it is. We may see that when these thoughts/images arise from moment to moment that is escaping from THE NOW. That’s how THE NOW (contentment, happiness, satisfaction, peace) is continually pushed further and further away in time-future. This is the root of suffering. By seeking freedom/happiness in time/thought we perpetually prevent happiness/freedom right NOW. This happiness/freedom/joy/beauty/love (truth) is always NOW. To admit time/thought psychologically we resist all that good stuff of the now.?

This understanding transcends the limits of intellectual/conceptual understanding. Intellectual/conceptual understanding implies divided action(therefore not action) Holistic understanding is undivided action(actual action).

To be simple, resistance will manifest itself as an image/thought (like or dislike of experiences that arise from moment to moment). Can we see this resistance arise from moment to moment? That’s important. To see how the word/image etc. is directly related to movement away from the fact. And this abstraction(thought/image is the imposition born of the past superimposed onto the present moment. The thoughts that “I” am suppose to observe are themselves the abstraction(idea/image/thought) that covers up the what-is which has no name or association without the perceiver that names /labels. The arising thoughts/images are directly related to that of the perceiver’s memory/recollection. To start, being aware of this every moment of the day we will then start to understand this process/cycle and how we “the self”(the past) is projecting thoughts/ideas/images onto the present moment. Simply we experience what ever we experience (thoughts/feelings-images) because we recognize them from the past(memory as “the perciever”) which implies we have identified with them already. Instead of trying to be aware-attentive, you will notice that you will subtly be resisting what-is. So just be aware of inattention. Inattention being this process of looking at moment to moment experiences with the image/idea/thought-likes and dislikes. All that arises in the present moment is the product of the recorded past incidents/experiences psychologically. When these thoughts arise we have already very subtly resisted what is. See this fact from moment to moment. It’s a fast habitual/mechanical reaction fosho. Understanding the loop holistically is really interesting and becomes very easy to not feed that loop/cycle of time. Anyway this post is just pointing at the importance of understanding the whole process and connecting all the dots. To have a holistic understanding may seem difficult to us now, but it’s actually very simple once we see thought as a whole without it’s apparent distinctions/fragments/perciver, and instead obseve the entire movement itself at once. Then it’s actually very simple. This is the cycle of resistance/attachment/identification (movement-time).

Don’t need no Ox pics. has nothing to do hope(time). Doesnt demand, cultivation, progression in a certain series of stages. Time (gradual psychological evolution) is the cause of suffering itself. To see-understand the whole of time acts as it’s own end to time itself. People can go down that route but it’s not necessary. Self observation without escape is the most direct way to see what is. All depends on whether or not we can see the necessity of negating all the bullshit that has been past along through tradition/culture(thought). Thats why it’s said that people may never end suffering, end it after along time of resistance and stop resisting, or end it instantly because they see the totlaty of how suffering arises in the first place.

Is Enlightenment the end of all Anxiety/Depression? I don’t personally concern myself with conceptions of “enlightenment”, but depression/anxiety is nevertheless manifestations of time. Holistic understanding of this whole structure/nature of time itself is action that ends this continuity psychological evolution. Psychological evolution; as in “the entity” that meets moment to moment with “its” likes and dislikes/should be’s or should not be’s. This activity being born of past experiences and resistance to the fact of those experiences, in which determines-modifies “the present”(as depression) and projects its hopes and fears “the future”(as Anxiety). All of this is to move within the field of psychological time. All of that is psychological movement away from what-is to what should or should not be. This resistance to what-is is always born of the past and that resistance sustains perpetual compulsive thinking (depression) about “the past”, and as such is projected as anxiety about “the future”. As long as there is this continuity of “time” as “the I” who is always trying to become or not become anything other that what-is, this depression/anxiety(conflict/suffering) will continue as a never ending cycle/process. A self feeding loop of time/thought. Can this time loop be seen in its entirety? Can this loop be seen holistically and therefore a complete negation of action/reaction to that process altogether? After all to see the danger in moving along with that process psychologically is complete and total action now isn’t it? To step out of that loop of time because of the obvious implicit danger. Isn’t that what is referred to as intelligence/intelligent undivided action?

Until psychological evolution (surrender or the ending of time) becomes actualized there will continue this image projection. I am this, that, and what ever. In the ending of psychological evolution there is no identification period, not with god, infinity, etc., but only the action/truth of WHAT IS.(HEADLESS).

Time(self) cannot see the totality of itself. It sees in fragments. Awareness is whole and unlimited by the fragent perceiving itself/thoughts; me with my labels-images(bias/prejudices-tendencies to exclude; break up and concentrate on a particular part). One thing I don’t see talked about on the forum is thought movement is relation to the word/image(thoughts/emotions). Awareness becomes very natural in this. Ofcourse a holistic understanding seems to be necessary for this.

To attend to moment to moment experiencings like inward thoughts/emotions without the past-the perceiver(labels-images)(shoulds or should nots) is how the self-thought loop stops feeding itself. It’s to starve the loop of inattention(subject/object loop).

The “I” that oberves a thought determines the image that is perceived. When “I” (accumulated attachment/resistance/identification-the past) perceive arising moment to moment experiences, that “I” (the past-time-thought) stamps its own label-image on top of those moment to moment experiencings. That is this concentration itself at play. What happens when there is no concentration/the past projected on the present? What does that imply?

Thought psychologically is not necessary. Motive/gaols are for function. To plan, to accomplish practical goals like leaning how to do things and applying what we learned (jobs/leaning language/learning an art) and such. To project thought to live in society is necessary. But to project thought/time to be psychologically satisfied breeds conflict/suffering. Freedom(psychological contentment/happiness) is literally always only now.