Jack River

That make sense dude?

I see thought a response of past experiences. Or that Thought and experience cannot be separated actully. So thiught and experience is conditioned or relative on one another. Seeing this limit is a realization that experience is bias. To go further and say can experience be more expansive depends on freedom wotjout that conditioned response.

Experiences are conditioned by thought. Thought and experience are one. Not knowing the limitation of experience leads to personal subjective bias. Being caught in its conditioned narrow grove it is hard to see it objectively. Right?

I agree.

Even speaking from experience is considered bias right? Experience is conditioned. One persons experience thinking against another. One bias against another.

Culture determined by thought.

@SerotoninluvRight dude. Sub-Culture being conditioned to that form of bias. Sub culture determined by that a specific conditioned movement of thought. A persons thinking is relative to “the thinkers” conditioning.

Fear in movement

Can freedom actually happen when every step we take is in the direction of non-freedom?

@Toby @Saumaya when we say relative or perspective this means view point from ones personal experience/thought right?

What’s meant by this?

Yellow is aware of bias. Seems simple dudes

So the above is teir one being caught in identification with thought. Fear in movement. No ability to suspend pre judgement and can’t see the importants

@SaumayaDoes tier one imply a person who identifies with thought and tier two not? What we talked about before.

Yep. Every step is a movement of time. Nice dude

Can’t be any psychological seeking basically on either side to come together.

Right. But sometimes there are signals of this identification or resistance. Has to be both willing to listen without holding to there bias/thought. Right. Sometimes it can happen if one side is willing and the other let there gaurd down by observing what seems to be genuine intention of the other. But unless that is so communication is a two way street. Right dude?

Seems pretty dang reasonable dude. It’s pretty easy to tell when there is this identification. I usually kinda just stop trying if I see it’s going nowhere.

Fosho dude. Without humility thought is incoherent.

I am following dude. Fusion or union on a subject or conversation

Like to communicate. If there is identification with certain information then the communication is corrupted. Fear forming a barrier in communicating. That what are saying @Saumaya?

To determine correct or incorrect information? Because anyone can have incorrect info right dude?

So to engage with criticism is clinging to identification with thought right. Identification meaning attachment to what is known. Right?

Oh. Well I feel for you dude. Wish you the best man

Attachment to Things means identification and identification means clinging to the old. In his case conditioned beliefs.