Angelite

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Are you Leo Gura?

Why do you wanna be immortal?

Have you actually seen/meet an actual devil? Like a Satan. A creature made of energy.

Nothing more. Just something i'd feel bad if I didn't tell. You know, when you see something obvious but turning a blind eye on it..

Huh?...why? Haven't read all. But I think I have one more thing to convey. For the benefit of all. It's the only thing I wanna say since last November. Don't wait for it though.

I don't know how to explain this, but... why are you guys comparing yourself to the Prophets? Jesus and Buddha etc. All based on pure assumptions.. Here's what they've got to say; 14:11 Their messengers said to them: "True, we are human like yourselves, but Allah does grant His grace to such of his servants as He pleases. It is not for us to bring you an authority except as Allah permits. And on Allah let all men of faith put their trust." They are the chosen ones. The prophets and the messengers. If I'm not mistaken, there's over 100 000 prophets (in the past). Apart from these, there are many saints. Some we know of, some we don't. There are many scriptures, scrolls and Tablets. But the last one is the Quran. It is full circle. My guru says, their levels, cannot be compared to those that came after them. It is not the same. ....... Upon reading this thread, what comes to mind is, what is the purpose of enlightenment to everyone? Why do people wanna get awakened/enlightened? What's the roots?

@Aakash I don't understand... The relative and the Absolute aren't delusional. Both are the truth. Can I say that everything is the truth? Is it just different language? It's only the matter of depth, can I frame it this way?

@Aakash I'm talking about those that i've met in real life. Comparing that to this. My point is, I see how partial enlightenment can lead to mass delusions. And knowledge. Knowledge is really important. All encompassing knowledge.. It's not just about enlightenment, but knowledge of the relative too. All encompassing knowledge of the relative and the Absolute. The tiniest details and the meta. The physical and the spiritual. The past and the present. Really, you can't be a half-enlightened. Be it in spirituality or in actual knowledge. I can see what's going to happen otherwise. ...... Again, i'm speaking in the relative here. Because there are many halfs here. In the Absolute, everyone is your guru. You learn from everything. You get insights from everything.

You don't call them a master then. If they can't explain things properly. It's not a Guru then. They can't teach or it will lead to others delusions. ....... There is wisdom in a real Guru's silence. It can't be teached to just anyone or it will only leads to delusions. But a real Guru will speak your language.

Everything that i've written, with the exception of the first, is the Relative. It can't be understood except by a perspective higher than that. An enlightened being with all encompassing knowledge of the world will see truth in everything. You can't speak of the Absolute in the relative. If you did, that will only lead to mass delusions. This is what differentiate a real master and a non-master. A fully enlightened being and a half- A Guru and a regular seeker. A psychic X wise Guru knows exactly what to say at the right moment in such a way that it is received perfectly by others. Talking about getting to other's levels.. What I observe here is, there are many people with partial knowledge.. [Not just here but mankind as a whole.] Intention is key. There's only two ways to enlightenment. Willingly or unwillingly.

@mandyjw the thing is, if that's what you do, you will lose all the wisdom and the actual fruits of what you've learned. I'd rather keep all the roots firmly fixed and soar highest. That's how my religion teache me. I don't think there's anything beneficial I could learn more from this forum. Except that it is mentioned in the Quran and hadeeth. So yea~ Goodluck Everyone.

If prophet Muhammad was still alive in this world now, he will recite this verse to me; "Allah does not love the public mention of evil, except where injustice has been done; for Allah is He who Hears and Knows all things." (4:148 "If [instead] you show [some] good or conceil it or pardon an offense- indeed Allah is ever Pardoning and Competent [has power in the judgement of values]." (4:149) Yesterday, when I went to a respectable scholar, he mentioned the same. And pray for my speech [to be good&beneficial]. So, to everyone, I'm sorry if i've mentioned any evil bluntly or without me realizing that it's evil, or if i've hurt anyone's feelings with my words. To the elderly, the teachers and the youngsters. And to Leo Gura. I've learned a lot from everyone. But not in the way that you'd think. ........ [If you see me speaking what i've written, in real life, you wouldn't find me offending...at all. Trust me.] But God says He didn't like it for evil to be mentioned in public even if it's true. Except where injustice has been done.. @Conrad ..... **runnn**

@Conrad We are definitely on a different path then. First, I see all Christians as the same. Second, I don't know whether each one of their faith is blind or pure or enlightened I don't know what is in every heart I am not God~ Actually, it comes back to what enlightenment means to you. If it is only mystical experiences, or to be able to defy physics, or to experience what you described as "God's mind" and say that you are God. Then no. ........ But, there is this verse in the Quran about new generation Christians, it is of two kinds : 7:169 After them succeeded an (evil) generation: they inherited the Book(Torah), but they chose for themselves the vanities of this world, saying (for excuse): "(Everything) will be forgiven us." (Even so), if similar vanities of came their way, they would (again) seize them. Was not the Covenant of the Book taken from them, that they would not ascribe to Allah anything but the truth? And they study what is in the Book. But best for the righteous is the Home in the Hereafter. Will you not understand? 7:170 As for those who hold fast by the Book(Torah) and establish regular Prayer - never shall We suffer the reward of the righteous to perish. *This can be applied to muslims too* "Pure" faith means Absolute trust in God, where you no longer need any reason to trust & worship God. It is pure faith. Not because you wanna avoid suffering, or desire for the heaven and fearing the fire. But simply for the sake of submitting yourself to the God of all creations alone. Complete Trust. (Though God do tells us to pray for the heaven and pray for avoidance of the hell) Ok This is the actual answer for you : That's why I said it can't be faked. You need to satisfy all you mind's & logical needs. All doubts. Or else it will be blind. I have my own chains of cause/reasoning that goes back to the prophet in order to have this Pure Faith. It ain't for nothing. +many other causes that leads me to this conclusion. You have to satisfy your mind's needs. You can't skip it. If you can have "Pure Faith" instantly without the slightest doubt in your heart, then great. But you can't fake it. Or it will be a weak faith. If you do have doubt, satisfy all those doubts first. @Conrad I'm talking about pure faith in a God higher than you. Which is not anything like It's creations (the whole universe, everything within it and beyond, the seen and the unseen, the known and the unknown). So this applies even to "enlightened beings" who think that they are all there is. See if you can have pure faith in God higher than you..despite all those mystical experiences. (Or does it trigger your ego? Cuz you are God?) God didn't create heaven&earth and everything in between for nothing.. P.s. I am not enlightened. I don't know many things. All knowledge belongs to Allah alone...I only know what I know and practice what have been made known to me. There is truth in everything. "Whatever it be wherein you differ, the decision thereof is with Allah: such is Allah my Lord: in Him I trust, and to Him I turn." (42:10) **To atheist who are not enlightened but use spirituality for utility purposes only, this will not make sense to you. I'm sorry** This will be my last. Goodluck~

@Matt8800 What if you are the combination of all? Should I walk? Or should I fly?

@Schahin I have a few books on free will and predestination. It is both.

@How to be wise and yet you deliver something that you aren't sure about? There are many weak hadiths even among muslims. *Proceeds to reading 40 hadith qudsi* I LOVE YOU! Thanks now I have read 40hadith Qudsi it's so satisfying~ [So many Opposites~] But haven't found anything like it. The one you mentioned.. **Btw, whats up with Qudsi?..Quddus..al-Quds..I keep stumbling upon Purity/Holyness... @Conrad huh? Why are you taking only parts of a verse and not fully? *Tryin to be Yousef? And put your trust in Him Who lives and dies not; and celebrate His praise; and enough is He to be acquainted with the faults of His servants- (Quran25:58)

Hi, can I know the chain of this hadith? The number and by who? Up to the Prophet himself.. Btw, on free will, it is as simple as this: You are given choices to do what you do. But the result is up to Divine Will.

@zeroISinfinity no wonder you don't understand it~ Let me share one thing then : "No one is more patience (in listening to something that is hurtful,) than Allah; because even when they assign partners to Him, and perceived Him as having a son, Allah will still bestow them with health and mercy." *sigh* There is God higher than me and you, who has created me and you. Allah have answered my prayers many times and has Guide me to His path.

No, We're talking about different thing. Random: Are you perhaps from Jewish descendants?

@SoonHei the ones looking through @Angelite's eye is my soul. I will leave this body when it dies physically. And continue my journey in another dimension. Once this body die, your senses will be crystal clear. But i'm still Alive. The day you were born and the day you'll die is pre-determined.

@Leo Gura are you a Christian? Who are you to say things about Jesus that which you know not? Have you met him?

Christ is the messenger God, the Son of Mary. Born without a father. But was blown into him rūh al-Quds; the Pure Spirit by angel Gabriel. And is not you. (Imagine if you are born during his time, would you not worship him? Someone who can do miracles...would you be the exceptional few who won't worship him as God? Or will you not kill him?) ........ 5:116 And behold, Allah will say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Did you say unto men, 'Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of Allah' ? " .He will say : "Glory to You! Never could I say what I had no right(to say). Had I said such a thing, You would have known it. You know what is in my heart, and I know not what is in Yours. For you know in full all that is hidden. 5:117 "I never said to them except what You did command me to say, 'Worship Allah,my Lord and your Lord' ; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when You did take me up , You were the Watcher over them, and You are a witness to all things". ....... But now, if you do have faith in him, you may or may not get Allah's blessings. Because Christ says : " If You do punish them, they are Your servant: if You do forgive them, You are the Exalted in power, the Wise."[5:118] ..because Christ himself, has reached total Pure Surrender to Allah. He leaves all judgement to Allah, his Creator. ........ To all non-Christians atheist, this will not make sense to you. Okbye Many nondual lessons you can learn from Jesus Christ. But most importantly, is his core teaching: worship none other than Allah, God of all creations. The key is to not worship creations/egos. But only God.

This is so interesting if you truly understand. It's how you transcend all fears and love of the relative. Then bringing the Absolute into the relative. But it can't be faked. You can't fake love. You can't fake fear. You can't fake knowing. (I think the next level would be wisdom, to be wise. Haha) So deal with where you're currently at. Don't fake it or it won't work. [But half truth = devilry]

@SoonHei hmmm My guru's highest wisdom is fear. I had awakened to infinite love last November. That was caused by fear. (Because of a dream) In between the two is knowledge. Without knowledge you won't fear. You can shuffle all three~ »Go look up Dhūl-Nūn al-Misry«