Angelite

So there isn't any highest-ceiling?

My definition of "nothing" is literal. Not "invisible".

No. I think he always speaks the truth. Hellspeed didn't lie. That's what I mean.

@Ibn Sina I have thought about something similar a few days ago Can a human being create something out of nothing? Answer me! Haha

@Hellspeed always speaks the truth❤

@Truth Addict it is a question... ? You said you have the shift after you convinced yourself that whatever you think is true will be truth. Your truth. Does that mean your whole realizations are lies which you have convinced yourself to be truth? So it becomes real to you?

Do you want me to tell you "WHAT THE FXXK WAS YOUR EXPERIENCE ?!?!" from my religion's perspective... ? Hihi

So...is everything you says in this thread a lie? Which you have created and believe. Hence not what reality really is... ?

@Truth Addict what is the difference between religion and mysticism? Mysticism is a byproduct of religious practices. Religion is a byproduct of the prophet's mysticism. Which comes from God. ... Are you bluffing?

Okay you are operating from materialist paradigm now? Isn't communicating with God mysticism? That's basically what religion is. Knowing your Creator. What is God to you? After this glimpses. You said reality becomes clear.

@Truth Addict What do you mean by religion is backward? I think it is a clear cut practical guides which brings you close to Truth. Which actually brings you to Truth. When I said that I only accept Allah's love, He gifted me with something pretty. What is God to you?

I think I know what it means. There are Signs and pointers in everything.

@Leo Gura what made you think that Saudi Arabia is more or less like north korea & Russia? I think it is the safest place on earth. I can walk out at 2 or 3am alone and it felt like day. The streets will always be full of people. The mosque is always with people. Not much difference between day and night. People from all over the world. I think it must be the highest on the spiral, integrated. In terms of accepting foreign people, it's a melting pot. (^this is Mecca) While the Saudi people, i'd say...I don't know. They have separate living rooms for male and female guest. Yea it's conservative culture. Respecting the boundaries.

It is a test. With freedom comes responsibility. If you are not given freedom, you won't be held responsible. You'll be innocent. It is a test. To differentiate between the ego & the truthful. That's how Reality works. " Either way is fine from God's POV because God's Love is unlimited. Nothing you create, no matter how horrific, can shake God' Love. God will Love it because God is all things and God is too conscious to hate itself. God is incapable of self-hatred, other than through human form. Self-hatred is only possible at less than infinite consciousness." ^Projections made onto God , a byproduct of being partial... Hence not Truth. I would say your preference. Or "your" delusions? "your" truth? ...

"Discrimination" is your projection. Leo are you Green?... ?

I only accept Allah's love and I know when it's ego and when it's God. It is obvious~ I'll do as I wishes.

As if i'll believe it~ Allah does not contradict His own Book. The Quran and the hadith~ It is you who haven't gone full circle~

Who are you to speak on behalf of Allah? He said he hates those who kill others without a just reason, unjust rulers, and those who took orphan's share (to name a few) ,in the Quran. It's you who hates no one. Why project it onto God whom you have no knowledge about? Btw, God's "hate" is not equal to "your " love or hatred.

Killing for love is selfish. Even if it's infinite love. You can only kill when there is a valid reason. Or else, one life is equal to the whole of mankind. That's your karma. ... An eye for an eye is neutral. If you forgive, then it's mercy on your part, you'll get your reward that will manifest in a different way. If you don't forgive, and don't take the eye, it will manifest in a different way for the other person. ..... That's how you become free from shadows. But it is important not to do injustice to others. Or else the karma will turn back to you. But forgiveness, will elevate you in a whole different level. You'll be free. And shall have your reward. You can't fake forgiveness. So don't do injustice to others. Especially to children and orphans.

"The All-Merciful (exalted is He) shows mercy to those who show mercy to others. Show mercy to those on earth and the One in the heavens will show mercy to you." Narrated by Imam Ahmad. @Leo Gura you are making a mockery out of love & mercy. Killing is not mercy. The All-Merciful (Allah) is full of mercy. Literally. In fact, Allah hates those who kill others without a reason. An eye for an eye. If someone kill your father, you can kill him. But you can't overdo it. Or else the karma will switch back to you. A slap for a slap. But to forgive, will change it for a greater reward. That's how it is.

The devil has co-opted love to use as a control mechanism. In the name of love, killing innocents. Nature will take care of itself. Behind every creation, there is a Creator who protects them from the evils of Egos. Hell is created for Egos. For those who follow their lower self. Not for the ignorant, not for the genuine, not for the sincere. But ego. .... Everything = Nothing 9 = 9 0 = 0 10 = 10 - = + Everything will balance itself out, sooner or later. It's wise to be balanced from the beginning.

That is rude. When I went to a temple, I will ask the monk about history. If it's a hindu temple, I will also talk about religion. Because our religion is similar. But I thought we are talking about truth here, regardless of what truth is. As long as it is the truth. Am I being ignorant? You're not damned if you tell me it's wrong. I'm not preaching I just think it's true. When it's true. There is God. How can it not be? God and love is always present. But when you think it's you....you are damned. You can love yourself & help yourself. But you can't ask for God's blessings. You can only get your blessings. If you have a God higher than everything, you can love yourself, you can help yourself, you can ask for God's blessings etc. (It won't be contradictory no matter how far you go). Does it make sense?

@Leo Gura okay. Actually it is very counter-intuitive. When you say you are God, you will be a slave to creations. When I submit myself to the God of all creations, I will only trust God, but looking at everything as God's creations. (God here refers to a God higher than everything). There are rules on how to deal with God's creations. I follow by that rule without attachement (except to God). You are doing the opposite. When you talk about love, that's like you love the whole creations because you are God and you created everything. That is the highest form of ego. When I said that I love everything, I meant to say that I love it because it is God's creations. Since I had submitted myself to God, I will love It's creations. And I will hate what God hate. Though I do have preferences. You can't fake love. You can't fake hate. If you wanna be enlightened. When I do control my hatred, it is for the sake of God. When you force infinite love on everything, you do it for the sake of yourself. Because you are God. And God should be loving. That is the highest form of ego Leo. Attachement to the world, while saying that you are God, is the highest form of ego. Loving all creations for the sake of yourself is the highest form of ego. ..... Although, I know what it means..

I have thought about this yesterday. For me it would be Allah then.. I thought the jewish call Allah Elohim.. Sometime ago, I met a healer randomly. He told me that there are two kinds of forces. He heal by Allah's name through the angelic realms. But you use servants?

I am scared of dogs too. They can see bad spirit. Actually cat too can see bad spirit. When they act unusual, I know there is an evil spirit. Usually they will try to protect you and scares the evil spirit away. Maybe you have something attached to you?