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I can’t stand those beige motherfuckers always whining about survival and shit

Beginning Yellow, I can activate various vMemes at will in given situations including red or beige which are personal favorites

So it seems if it was operating on a lofty ideal it would deceptively jack the system in so that the ideal was actualized at all costs uncaring about seemingly harsh ramifications of the direction change

essentially regardless of intentions it seeks control and domination of the system of its life conditions with no remorse

@CreamCat I have spoken with MIke Carrano personally who actually discovered the vMeme (he was working with beck) and confirmed that it would behave much like a neo-Faustian “nasty corporation” in how it forces the system to its own whims. It is possible that the whims themselves could be “good” hypothetically, but they way it leveraged the system is ruthless.

Attempting to exist as coral for fun seems extremely intriguing to me personally but the vMeme seems very contingent upon life conditions to actualize.

@CreamCat yes it seems a “mad king” of the digital age deceptively establishing a control and consolidate empire centered around itself, or simply someone with an extreme wealth of systems knowledge + with an agenda of complete control. Also as Leo said in a different thread the theory does not map mystics so if someone goes in that direction, it’s really difficult to correlate with a stage.

@Truth I think the actual character Lucy at the end of the movie shows a lot of traits that could be considered Coral based on what I’ve read/heard about it.

@Leo Gura Agreed, another problem is that the natural development is usually contingent upon life conditions that most would likely never have, so to “evolve” one would need to condition their thinking for their best estimation of hypothetical circumstances. *For the highest tier(s)

It seems common on the form that individuals assume that the Spiral Dynamics stages evolve to the thinking common in Mystics (commonly thought of as turquoise on the form). Dr. Don Beck, co-author of Spiral Dynamics has refuted this, stating the theory is about the emergence codes to solve "real-world" problems not "out of this world mysticism." This is a common misconception of the theory he has addressed. For Example Margaret Wheatley has been labeled as a Turquoise thinker. In THIS THEORY higher levels are not intended to point to mysticism. Not that there are not other theories that do consider that, however to assume that higher levels such a turquiose imply characters such as eastern mystics not solving "real world" problems is a misapplication of the theory.

Michael Carrano was the individual who actually recognized the Coral Vmeme working with Dr. Don Beck (co-author of spiral dynamics) specifically in the behavior of Corporations themselves. A consolidating "I" of power leveraging all its systems to its advantage. Individuals who would exhibit this vmeme would be for example Global elite types in an attempt to completely dominate all life conditions AKA the world, utilizing rhetoric that would gain support of lower tiers including naive Green to push agendas without realizing the negative consequences of using these initiatives to control them.