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And at the same time there is And at the same time we're constructing it

It's a matter of perspective and on what level we communicate. There's a real world and there isn't. Words point to something and they don't. Consciousness can be spoken of and cannot. etc. It's all perfection. It can't be improved and it can't be diminished. And at the same time Evolution exists! In fact Life is Evolution. It is absolute perfection in its unfolding.

@Galyna Maybe we don't even actually disagree with each other I read a bit in your "ice has broken" thread and can thus far only agree. What I'm talking about is the development of this earth and humanity. This is more important than anything else – even if exploring no-mind, no-self etc. can certainly help with that, I don't say it doesn't matter. But it's not the be-all end-all. Love & Evolution.

Completely agreed. And now apply that to the whole of humanity. We're in that breakup right now – presenting itself as crisis. The question is just: What are we gonna do next? Are we finally ready to go beyond our past?

Exactly. And the only real suffering is resistance. It's about loving even that.

Ignorance about what? What's your perception of yourself right now, from which perspective is it you're talking?

Granted. I understand that you're talking about ending the so-called illusion (maya) of personal experience. What I'm saying is: It's not a bug, it's a feature.

What's the issue with being someone? Problems only arise if you take it too seriously.

It's travesty to think that it's about ending it all. It's honestly insulting towards life. Good thing it doesn't care about it.

Are you trying to do that? Is it working?

Nah. It never ends. That's the beauty of it. It's impossible to jump off the carousel, neither is it desirable. This spiritual delusion on this earth is unfortunately very persistent. We need to go beyond that shit. I'm sure there's a point where we leave this realm to go play something else, but that isn't reached by trying to end it. On the contrary. We're not nearly finished here.

Having a story is a great play, if one manages to not get lost in it. Sure, you can rest in no-self all the time, but where's the fun in that!?

Well, firstly, I can guarantee you that spirituality doesn't make one immune to depression (speaking from personal experience). On the other hand, there's definitely a kernel of truth in what you say. I'd say: Don't let time decide meaning, but this very moment. Which is kind of what you said, put into other words. I think (still speaking from personal experience) that the root depression lies in something one doesn't dare to live out, but buries it – literally depresses a part of oneself. This is of course done unconsciously. Depression is real, but not random. I myself am deeply grateful that it happened, because otherwise I would've succeeded in living a completely normal live.

Make something that isn't. If you don't know how, find out.

A song of mine about a spacecraft that flies through the sky to broadcast its message: "You're not alone, you're beautiful, it's not too late to try." Until everybody on this earth received it we will fly – into the night...

Sounds amazing.

Wherever you are is exactly right and you will be confronted with whatever you need to give you the perfect opportunity to awaken more. But if you want to arrive somewhere specific you have to take action, of course, I don't deny that.

There's only one path and it is the one you're on. There are only better paths in respect to a certain destination, else it's not possible to evaluate them.

There are no better - just different - paths.

Because that's how all the puzzle pieces finally connect.

It's all technology. And technology is always a matter of using it for good or evil. It's also not 'natural' to exchange thoughts in text form inside an online forum.

Consider that drugs are a very natural part of this reality. Your definition of 'natural' is quite arbitrary. I agree that you can access higher states of consciousness by other techniques, that don't rely on chemical interactions (that are of course imaginary). Every way has its upsides and downsides. But there's no moral highground in avoiding drugs.

I do. I take LSD via my own free will.

Yeah and why do we need to take drugs? Why do we need to listen to music? Where's the difference? Is music and art more pure than drugs and sex? Who decides that?

I didn't claim so. It's not about the suffering, it's about going beyond suffering, and for that you need to go directly through it.