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You say you know my intentions better than I do? That's gaslighting at its finest. This is leading nowhere, let's stop derailing this thread with such a nonsense discussion at this point.

You have no fucking clue about my intentions.

That means absolutely nothing lol. 1000 trips are nothing compared to 1 good one. I found and walked the path with psychedelics and so on way before Leo even knew about it. I still look up to him because in the meantime he went way deeper than me. That doesn't mean that I think he's superior to me. @Razard86 has awoken to aspects I don't have to, so yeah, I look up to him for that too. He's still not superior to me. As I'm also not superior to anyone else, you imagine that I think that. The reason why I called out your ego wasn't just a random attack, it was because you stopped to bother about the content of what I say and now resort to very shallow and predictable attacks against me as a person. That's a defense mechanism of the ego. I don't say stuff like that just for the sake of it, there's reason behind it.

Haha I seem to have struck a chord with you still I didn't say anything like that, stop twisting my words.

You're wrong. That's your ego that has to invalidate what I say because it threatens it. I see you at a point I was at before, maybe that's why you feel as if I'd think I'm superior to you. I'm not by the way. I didn't think that you would attack me like that, I'm actually really disappointed. It seems that there's no reason to keep talking to people like you that are so stuck in their self-made equilibrium. I try that again and again and it always ends with no progress at all but me feeling frustrated and just bad at the end. It's just not worth the effort. But maybe someone else can derive some benefit from it. That could actually make it still worthwhile to have such discussions, albeit not for the one I'm discussing with, as it seems.

That’s easily said. But are you really? Whatever those are all pointers Forget them and discover it for yourself.

Just Do it

That’s what you will discover

„Know“ is maybe just a bad word here, let’s better say „experience“ or „discover“. You don’t have to literally die, but you have to be absolutely prepared to die. It’s a life and death matter, this is not a joke.

And time to get them in there.

Of course evolution is conscious. Why not? Genes are intelligent, that doesn’t even contradict Darwin, it’s just way more amazing that he thought.

That’s the first taste of Truth

What Truth points to is not a concept. It’s actually the closest thing, closer than any concept could ever be. But the issue is most don’t want Truth because they instinctively know what that entails: they could lose all their ideas and concepts and feel like a rug is pulled out under them. You have to be ready to die to know Truth. Truth is nothing that you can possess, it is eternal and mysterious, you have to open yourself to it. That opening is a gradual process, you have to keep going and there will be obstacles that you have to work through. From what I read you seem to be already doing that. You will have to give up everything for the Truth. Are you ready to do that yet?

The mind is not an obstacle, the identification with the mind is. As soon as that’s dissolved enough you can go into a state of no mind at any time with no effort.

I achieve the best results with low to mid doses and then reading some spiritual text or listening to music. RoA is intranasally or seldom boofed. Doses intranasally from 20-40 mg. Anything higher just brings me in a state of nothingness or solipsism, but a weird kind of it. Can be interesting though.

You’re learning to be in the present in a state of no-mind and that’s great. I think I understand you better than you think

Everyone who didn't explore the dissoverse is missing out is all I'm gonna say It's a completely different domain than psychedelics and it offers unique insights that you can't have on psychedelics. They often are anxiolytic, so no fear present during the experience, but on the other hand they are harder to handle - for example difficulty controlling your body - and have a potential to be habit forming. If you ever explore that domain, be careful. Psychedelics are usually still able to raise your consciousness way higher, the highest states were still achieved with psychedelics for me, but dissociatives offer some unique perspectives and experiences. Sometimes a little bit of ketamine can launch a psychedelic trip to a completely new level, I had some breakthrough experiences on 2C-B and ketamine. With breakthrough I mean that I awoke to a level that I didn't know before and it shattered some barriers like breaking a matchstick. One of the main strengths of dissociatives is that they are really good at dissolving concepts and distancing you from your mind. Especially helpful if one of your main obstacles is clinging to the mind too much. But as I said, be careful. They have physiological dangers that are often not present with psychedelics.

But aren't those concepts, which you said are not worth anything?

@Breakingthewall You seem to have a very concrete idea of what is right and wrong and how a spiritual person has to behave. This is called "spiritual bypassing" and it's one of the most toxic things I also see in this forum again and again. I know it because I've been through it. It means you use spirituality to invalidate certain emotions that you don't want to feel or certain concepts and ideas you don't want to think about. In short you try to eradicate everything that you think is wrong (concepts, pride, mind, ego) from existence. You don't even have to look at it because you already know what it is and that it's wrong. You're deluding yourself. Every concept is at least worth trying to understand it.

In Russia windows shuts you down.

Hey Maybe it just doesn't work for you. Everyone responds differently to any chemical. Did you try 2C-B? What are your experiences with other psychedelics?

I just had another insight: To be shown Truth before you're ready to let go of everything else would be terrifying. I know that because it happened to me. Only later I learned to appreciate it and open myself to it, it kind of forced me to do that. Retrospectively it was an act of Divine Grace. So the fact that Truth (usually) doesn't get revealed to you before you love it for Truth's sake is an act of kindness. It only becomes beautiful after you're ready to die.

That question is implicitly there before you've made that step, that jump into the void for yourself. The complete uncertainty and then doing it anyway is what gives it its Beauty. Else you just would do it because you gain something from it. It has to be a selfless act. Only acts of selfless Love are truly beautiful. Everything else is naturally tainted.

That's what I was hinting at. But it's a process in my experience at least. You have to get to the point first where you want the Truth and nothing but the Truth, so help me God..

How can you trust in that if you didn't experience it? I did, but I can see why it can be very hard to anticipate. My explanation and interpretation would be: Truth is the only thing that exists, you are it and it is also infinite and eternal. therefore it must be absolutely Good. Because for something to be bad or evil requires that it would be able to harm you. Evil requires you to be limited. But you have to also have realized that there can't be anything but Truth. There are so many insights, big and small, required to see that Truth ultimately equals Good. Therefore there's this unspoken nagging question: "What if Truth isn't Good!? What if I find out that it's the most nightmarish thing ever?" This can not be answered through language, it has to be seen. You must first be tired of falsehood to finally be ready to lift the veil – WHATEVER there is on the other side. Because you just want to finally know the TRUTH. @TheWind Get to that point first, and then you will find out for yourself.