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I generally agree. There are experiences that are higher and lower – you could also call it higher and lower states of consciousness. We pursuit higher and higher states of consciousness. At some point they become so radical that it's impossible to even have an idea if you've never experienced them. I also think that it will become about creating high states of consciousness together here on this earth. My proposition (until it's either confirmed or invalidated) is, that we can create much higher states of consciousness together than is possible alone. And someday we will become ONE as humanity. Literally in the sense that we wake up to the fact that we're all the same being. I had an awakening into the future of humanity and it was absolutely breathtaking. Nobody sees coming what's really possible on this planet. I wish I could share the feeling I had in that moment... it's unfortunately impossible to convey via mere words.

@Ajax You're kinda right. But you only can become aware of ideas through experience.

@Leo Gura Thank you for the clarification.

I can guarantee you with extremely high certainty that this isn't the case. Paradigms are never perceived as such when you're inside them.

Every participator influences what this forum is. If someone is unwilling to develop but instead tries to convert everyone else to their perspective it can certainly become toxic.

I'm in the state of the art.

On the other hand it could point to an aspect of reality I haven’t considered yet. So who knows…

@Yimpa I see. The trick is.. it makes no difference what Leo answers, because he can’t give me anything I don’t already know anyway. But still I’m curious

LOL

Juicy stuff! I even like to think of this dream as the greatest symphony ever created.

I'll contemplate and deconstruct it all, no doubt. Everything I write here is based on my current understanding, else I couldn't write anything at all. Why write then in the first place? To help me deconstruct but also solidify my current understanding. Both processes happen at the same time. Differentiation and integration.

What do you mean? Can you elaborate? What is your understanding of 'hallucination'?

I guess someday you/I'll have to take the leap and be free of any doubt. I got a feeling..

Sounds great

Existence is already complete, there's nothing to do there. Here's where the fun's at.

What makes you think that I insist on being rational?

I'm committed to not clinging to my understanding. It advances the more I confront assumptions. But there's always some version of understanding, that's true for everyone. Even you have your personal understanding, and that will not be the same understanding you arrive at 10 years from now.

How do you define the difference? Isn't it a matter of perspective? I'd say ultimately a paradigm is ungrounded, you could even define evolution as a series of advancing paradigms. In a way every paradigm is a hallucination, because it's not reality. What's your definition of hallucination? Couldn't you just say it's dreamed up?

I feel you. Sending love <3 It's possible to leave that behind.

Well, we had to invent the phone and internet to communicate with each other. So why not build something that allows us to connect to LIFE itself. Granted, you can achieve that by yourself, too. But the point is having a technology to do it regularly and repeatedly, together and through a series of defined steps.

You don't know how I arrived there. You have no idea how uncertain I am and how much I question myself. Of course not But especially not if they confuse them with reality. I aspire to stay open for my whole reality to be destroyed again and again. That's the whole point. That's how I came to this point and that's why I say it isn't final. But that doesn't mean it's wrong – that just means that it's sooo much better than that. About this I'm completely certain. Because I recognize that my nature is absolute LOVE and GOODNESS.

Through LOVE. That's a story you tell yourself.

I have something to say about that. Nietzsche spoke about the importance of YES. Getting to a point where you not only accept what is but say YES to Life and EVERYTHING that it entails, even if it meant repeating it into all of Eternity. That's a possibility. I'm working on a technique that involves going into the deepest darkest shadows of your psyche – essentially voluntarily visiting hell. It's made easier by doing it through a musical story, so you're able to distance yourself from your personal attachments and assume the reality of the fiction, experiencing it as a character that you may leave at any time if it gets too much. This is - as you may have guessed - supported and intensified through the use of psychedelics. It is ultimately supposed to be done in a group setting, but can also be carried out alone. Now, the goal is of course not to stay in hell, but to pass through it and leaving everything human behind for one night. This is possible because your fears and negativity work like an anchor tying you to the physical. It's like dying together in a more or less controlled and repeatable manner. That first part is like a cleansing and opening of your emotional system. The second part of the event then is about Ascension and Gnosis. Essentially connecting with the Divine in that elevated and loosened state creating a direct experience of GOD. What's great about it is that it will be possible to conduct it with as many people as you'd like, leading to not only a personal GOD awakening but a collective one. Anyway, in my experience by going consciously through what we would call hell it ceases to be that. You realize that even there, you can find nothing but LOVE. That's the great power of undergoing such a thing deliberately. You come back way more open and with less fear each time. Of course it may happen that you encounter something that's so deeply buried that it's not possible to overcome it in the moment. But that can be worked through aside from the ceremony and then you come back to try it again. But why? you may ask.. What are the benefits of doing something like that in the first place? Possible positive outcomes may be (if and how much of a success it becomes depends on the ceremony and the people that attend): Collective GOD-consciousness CATHARSIS of suppressed emotions Loosening or even permanent dissolving of certain emotional attachments – SHADOW WORK Advancing Evolution on this planet by working through the unconscious mind of humanity Creating our own future that's not just a repetition of the past by connecting to the Great Unknown Personal and collective transformation Coming together with like-minded people for the purpose of our Advancement as a species Finding and strengthening your life purpose by becoming conscious of what your highest values are Connecting to LIFE itself and starting to live more from your authentic self Cutting through all the bullshit of human ideas and concepts Notice: It's not about teaching anything specific, but just about connecting to the highest principle itself. Everything else is what you make of it. Essentially, it's a technology. There's much more to say but I'll leave it at that for now. Feel free to share your thoughts

That may be a way, but it's still indirect.

Our true nature IS = EVOLUTION. I have grown tremendously since I was 3 years old, and I wouldn't want to return, that's completely backwards. There's no developed mind yet, true, but if that was the goal, why don't just stay there in the first place? Not only that, but we have collectively grown and advanced in spectacular ways. Why not just stay in the stone age? I'm sure you were very connected with nature back then. It's not about getting rid of the mind, it's about using and developing it to its fullest capacity. It's important to realize that you are not the mind, but that's only because it enables you to make even better use of it. Getting rid of the mind as if it was a bad thing is a complete and utter misunderstanding in buddhism.