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In an absolute sense it's imaginary, because it doesn't affect what you are. The Absolute dreams all different kinds of relativity. But the Absolute is ultimately the eternal Truth, dreams are temporary and change all the time. Mistaking the dream for reality (meaning: mistaking yourself for the dream character) leads to the experience of suffering, when in fact your true Self is unbothered by everything that happens in the dream - even when you may have forgotten that you are the dreamer.

The exploration is never finished, but that doesn't mean that you shouldn't do it. There's nothing else to do. And besides, it's the greatest pleasure to explore the infinite beauty of God. Welcome to Eternity

You can experience all of them, but they remain a mystery. They are all part of the greater mystery... that is you. But you can explore and understand all of those phenomena in arbitrary great detail. You're in fact eternally exploring yourself.

@Someone here Everything is completely imaginary. Because we have to use human language the term "dream" comes closest.

Wrong. Do you know your body? You may not know how it works exactly on a conceptual level, but you can become directly aware of it. Do you know the color red? Do you know what a rose smells like? Do you know what a piano sounds like? Do you know how it feels when you're in love? Do you know what sadness feels like? Different kinds of sadness? Different kinds of love? A joyful summer day? A gloomy winter night? There are a lot of things to become aware of

Well, the first question is: What IS you?

Your hasty diagnosis is a defense mechanism of your ego, because now you don't have to take anything I say seriously. Notice that I don't claim to know what you experienced or are awakened too. I'm just claiming that no one has arrived at any final destination, and those who say they did are deluding themselves. Edit: Thank you.

The distinction between structure and content is imaginary. Lol. It's not trivial. That's my whole point. Pre/Post fallacy. I'm pretty sure you misunderstood me. Stop gaslighting me you don't know what I had and what not. I'm completely aware that this is the Absolute, it's everything there is, and it's me.

The Truth changes everything.

Yep, you can. But that's only the beginning. You can not only dream different dreams, the quality of the dream can change as well - aka your level of consciousness. There are levels of consciousness way beyond what anyone has experienced yet. And that's not just a trivial fact that's a complete game-changer. One advantage of the psychedelic path is that that's utterly unambiguous.

Experiencing that you are God in all its glory. Dissolving the dream like a supernova. Bringing all your parts together again, solving the riddle that is this universe. Dancing the dance of this cosmos. We've barely even started. What's your average daily level of consciousness? Do you have surges in consciousness from time to time? How do you achieve them? Or do you just live a life that's about survival? What's your life purpose?

@Inliytened1 I disagree with that being the "final" one. What's your perception of this "entire affair" as you called it? Why does it exist? You see no possibility that there may be more after that awakening? What tells you that that would be the final one?

Nice wordplay. But no, that's not what I mean. The Absolute IS NOT DONE.

@Inliytened1 Haha.. I know that already. All I'm saying is that NO ONE is done. That's also an awakening I had.

There are certainly things I haven't become conscious of yet. I'm not sure what exactly you're talking about. I have had multiple awakenings including deaths of various kinds. I have certainly become conscious of the Absolute. You say that you're completely done? (whatever that means) I can guarantee you that that's not the case.

It's not a belief I speak from direct experience. 1. I already am the absolute. 2. What is "this"?

I believe that it's theoretically possible without psychedelics. But you don't know the inverse. It's just different tools. It's also very likely that every person walks their own path. Psychedelics are certainly a completely valid one. Also every path has advantages and disadvantages.

Says who? How is that not just a belief?

Allow me to quote myself:

Except that it is just that. But then there's more. It's not really conveyable per words because words are a part of what you try to explain as is everything else. Ok let me try it this way: THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE. THE END. But now YOU AS THE ABSOLUTE are in the process of BECOMING. There's agency involved. This becoming happens in a perfect way, but it's not at all known how exactly it will unfold. Only that it will eventually. This is the Absolute reminding itself that IT IS NOT YET FINISHED. Both statements (there is nothing but the ever-perfect unchanging Absolute; the Absolute is in the process of Becoming) are true at the same time and this transcends human logic. The error that's being done is discarding one side of the coin (the Becoming) and only accepting the other side (the unchanging Absolute). That's where you get stuck.

That's strawmanning. It's not about there being something above the Absolute. The Absolute is something totally different than you think. It's about becoming CONSCIOUS of the Absolute. That's not a binary insight that you just get some afternoon.

Because it imagines everything lol The error is discarding the imagination as "just a dream".

To add to that: How can you imagine something that you don't know? Is it even possible? How do you create something that doesn't exist yet? More narrowly: How can we create our own future that's not just our past repeated in another way? How can something totally new begin if nobody knows it yet? Answer: We have connect with the great UNKNOWN. How? By dropping everything we thought we knew. That requires leaving all comfort behind for a moment. To progress we must burn our whole past to death. How? By bringing the fire of consciousness in contact with it. Why didn't we do that already? Because we're afraid and hold onto that which gives us safety. We have to dive headfirst into the shadows because there's nothing to fear, but that has to be experienced not just conceptually understood. We on this planet hold on to the past because we're afraid of the shadows. We're afraid of the UNKNOWN. The UNKNOWN is to find where nobody looks. As long as that's the case we relive them again and again. That's an invitation. Every bad thing that's ever happened to you is an invitation to look more deeply. Darkness, evil, ugliness is everything that hasn't been seen through yet, because we're afraid and thought there's nothing to see anyway. It's too painful because we understand on some deeper level that there's nothing but us and we're afraid to see our own ugliness and imperfection. The problem is that you think you know, but YOU DON'T. And you'll only realize that when you WATCH AND SEE. Go into the shadows. I'm still in the process to find the right words for this stuff, but I feel that there's incredible value here concerning our own progression individually and as a species on this planet. It's okay to get angry because we've been complacent for so long. That anger is LOVE, not being content anymore to play those silly games. WE CAN BREAK THROUGH, but there needs to be a critical mass of PEOPLE THAT BURNT THEMSELVES TO ASHES BY THEIR OWN CONSCIOUSNESS. We need to kindle a storm of fire. And then something new will arise out of it. But that's the only way. There will be a freedom, a rejoicing that's absolutely unheard of and on a whole new level. There's a serious possibility here. This has gotten a bit rambly, as I said, still working on finding the right words. Thoughts?

I see where you're coming from. Been there done that. You will have to see it for yourself, but let me give you a hint: 1. It is much better than you think and if it seems terrible then you're mislead 2. Others exist, but not as separate entities from you. What you do to them you do to yourself. This insight will in fact make you feel MORE connected to everyone and not less. But you have to get through that valley to the other side. That's why solipsism is so dangerous when it's not fully integrated. It can lead to a huge surge in suffering and ego, but that's based on falsehood 3. Until then Just act as if though everyone would exist separately. Fake it till you make it.. to the other side Fully integrated it leads to true acts of selfless love. That can also be the gateway (it was in my case): Find that one person in your life that you love unconditionally. Feel deeply into your connection to that person until it feels absolutely real. Until you can see the aliveness and beauty in that person. That beauty is potentially able to break through your current illusion. That could be your exercise from now on, if you'd like. Another exercise: Go into the darkness and ugliness and look at it from a position of utmost wakefulness, but don't let it disturb you into looking away, until you penetrate it with your consciousness and see through it.

Rationality is what holds you back. Dropping that requires courage.