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For the creation of this thread, I was inspired by the newest Actualized.org series "Deconstructing The Myth Of Science". It is self explanatory. The topic here is to critically approach the "concept" of Actualized.org and all of its components (videos, blog, forum, store, speaker, listeners...).

There is a problem of the opposite concept of reductionism, that is sometimes used in this paradigm(s). Similarly as the concept of reductionism is, the opposite is not dominant. Holism gives privileges to the thing that arrises from multiple other. Multiple (infinite) infinities create Infinity. Why is Infinity so special, that we have to capitalize its first letter? I know why... because we give greater importance to the thing that the lesser thing is in. But this again comes with some sort preassumption like in any other topic or paradigm, may it be science, religion, personal opinion or Actualized.org.

All people interested in astrology cannot be put in a same consciousness category. Like in any other topic, there are different layers of consciousness here also. But my proposal for this discussion does not relate with the introduction I had made, but rather, I'm interested in combination of the two models; to apply spiral dynamics to astrology houses logic. This topic is meant for people who to some degree know both spiral dynamics and basic technical aspect of astrology. Maybe there are some you like that here? Astrology has three basic factors: houses, planets and signs. There are many other different factors, but for out purpose this will suffice. For simplicity let's focus only on astrology houses: There are 12 houses in astrology and each represents different areas of our lives. Below the houses will be briefly described with image I had attached. We can see from the houses description that each house has certian representation. My questions here are: Can the spriral dynamics model be applied here? Can we combine houses with spiral dynamics stages? Or again, are there just aspects of every spiral dynamic stage in each house?

Enlightened person is the one, for who You think is enlightened. Each individual has different mesurements of this. But only your interpretation is important. Of course, listen to other opinions and build yours on top. So, if you strive by the magnificent energy that someone has, try out some of the qualities she/he posseses by yourself. It's a complicated and multilayered term, so I want to avoid using it as much as possible. Definition of enlightenment, which resonates with me the most is; only the ones who seek enlightement, are the ones that do not have it (at least in the moments they are thinking about not being enlightened). But this is just my poor interpretation of it. Be gentle with it. So, if I answer your question. I had moments in my life, where I think I have met some. But now, I doubt this had ever happened. Or maybe everyone I met possesed this mystical quality? If we assume, that this can be defined as mystical quality in the first place.

Have you noticed? Leo has a firm standpoint, on how a person should approach life. Of course, everyone of us do. Even me right now - I'm writing this, because I got a bit agitated, when he had a little outburst in the newest video. The moment, that I am talking about here is, when Leo talks about the importance of books - and a bit forward. Everyone can reply here now and say, that this is just my projection, because I don't read enough books. Maybe, that is partly true - but I can give you the same argument: "This is your projection, because you DO read a lot of books". Don't take this the wrong way - I'm not saying that reading books is bad, as well as not reading books is not bad. Both have infinite ways of "taking a glimpse at the absolute". My point here is, that if you want to really think openly, you should accept both sides - not get an outburst and tell people to "get the fuck out", when they have a different approach of dealing with the Truth. Thank you for all of this Leo. You gave me a lot of insights or reminded me of some things , that I forgot. Keep doing what you're doing. I'm just returning the favor and reminding you (hopefully). I hope, I made myself clear - I'm not so good with words... hmmm

Okay, I agree with that

@Leo Gura Yes you could say that. But what, if I told you that sometimes you gain more by not reading so much. You can still insist and say: "If you would read more books, you would't say that" or "you are being lazy again". Okay, I understand this perspective (maybe I will even join with it in the future) - do you understand mine and actually think, that I could get the insights, that are just as "powerful" as you reading 100 books a year?

@brugluiz I understand, that teacher teaches depended on the circumstances she/he is in. Even these two comments in this topic are circumstances of some teacher right now. Maybe for Leo. Maybe just for you and me, which will reflect the next time we talk to somebody. To put in the context: I just noticed in the video before, that Leos reaction was angry, even if later he switched in to the same old enthusiasm. But, if he promotes only the book readings as "holy". He will trap those who believe him and are too lazy to read a book - those who couldn't see this projection, that he has made. He acted exactly as a parent, trying to give some ideology to his child. His goal at that moment was to be in 0.001% of people and not actually directed in the Truth.

@molosku Why I posted this video is to show the part, where he uses this (yellow) perspective. No video posted here is perfect example of yellow, because in practice it is almost impossible to find a person, that qualifies this perfect restrictions. But, if we think about a specific moments with specific people, we can see that lessons can be learned in them - in this PewDiePie case "yellow" lesson. Nobody expects that you would analyze every video - if the purpose of this tread is only analyzing everyone who fits in description of Yellow as a whole person - then my mistake. @Etherial Cat Yes, I think in most of his videos, he is exactly like this. With this example I only tried to show that even, if he makes orange level appearance, it doesn't mean that he is mostly orange. As is my knowledge about yellow stage - it has an ability to consciously switch between tier 1. stages, when they are appropriate. The fact is, that yellow isn't always the optimal color with which you can deal with your life - and that in itself is a yellow conclusion. P.S. With this replies, I only tried to explain myself, why I made post of him here. It is only my opinion, of course - but I felt some resonance that he would bring a lot of disagreements like: "he doesn't belong here". Maybe that's true.

PewDiePie ... comedian who have the most subscribers on youtube. He makes content from cheap jokes to some "serious talks". I can notice some chameleon structure that he has. In this video we can also see some resemblance to the stage yellow. He consists of many colors and is not yellow at most of his videos... But from time to time he also shows this side. We, who don't know him personally, can only wonder, if he acts more yellow, when he is not in front of camera. I can definitely say for myself that he is partly yellow, which means that we have a lot of influential people like him all over the world. The statistics that Leo gave in the Yellow video - 1% of people and 5% of influence - seems unreasonable. I think that a lot of people have yellow in them. These numbers are not important, except if you want to feel special as the 1%. What do you guys think?