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@bejapuskas practice present, conscious awareness THROUGHOUT the entire day, that will be the next level. Bring the light of awareness into every task, even the most mundane, and then your life will blossom. Ego and concepts cannot survive in this brilliant light. ?

@Pernani a vision will not complete you. First, there is consciousness and acting from that space. First, there is complete acceptance of the present moment. First, there is the knowledge that there is ultimately nothing to do and nowhere to go. Get the basics down first. The only true waste of time is to lead an unconscious life. Even "doing nothing" consciously could be the most powerful thing you'll ever do. All meaning, purpose, and value are constructed by the mind. That isn't to say it's not important, of course it is! But you have to understand what it fundamentally is and why it's not actually the thing missing from you life. You're missing being.

This is Jack's complete waste of time... This is extremely defensive, rude, self-righteous, and ultimately ignorant. You shouldn't talk to anyone this way, let alone the guy who set up the forum you're on and teaches personal development for a living. Leo never said you're stupid. That was yet another story you told yourself, another projection. He actually wrote out a thoughtful response, and how to help transcend these limiting beliefs and concepts. If you want confirmation on your theories, then please go elsewhere. If you'd like to humbly learn, then you're at the right place. No, this was not a personal attack. No, there's no need to go defensive because your response will not be met with a reply. Just carefully consider what has been said

Someone who talks like that is not enlightened. Good day, sir.

At the end of day 18, relapse. I'm gonna make it longer than 18 days next time! New record, let's go!! That's only 2 relapses in over a month, that's amazing progress for me! Gonna carry the momentum forward.

Ha, perfect! That moment when the screenwriter attempts to write a script for a love story despite never having been in a relationship, and never having read a book on the subject. I mean, how do you think that would turn out? "Oh, but I know how it is!"

That's the best you've got?? Oh boy, that would be a walk in the park compared to what's actually real haha. A tiny, tiny fraction... At least put some imagination into it! ? Oh that's right, you can't because you've never had a mystical experience. It would be wise not to judge things which you have not personally experienced. You're only harming yourself when you do that.

Have a good day ?

This is complete mental masturbation. The grand model of being is beyond any map or model. It's right in front of you! just observe.

@Nahm woah ??

@Hero of Time you seem to be in a very interesting position. You're obviously extremely open minded as you've processed some of Leo'd videos and shattered your blue paradigm. That in itself is life changing! But let's try to understand why the stages are like they are, and how that applies to you individually. Orange is the ego backlash to stage blue. Orange is denying spirituality all together, and materialism becomes the new religion. Science is only conducted from the materialist paradigm/metaphysics. See, I don't get the impression you could buy into that. As a SOCIETY we had to evolve that way (and we'll be moving fully into green soon), but for you specifically, considering your knowledge and resources (Leo and others), you're not materialist. Buying into Orange on the spiritual line of development would probably be regression. You see, spiral dynamics can be applied to many lines of development, and it's normal to be at different stages in different areas. For spirituality, as you seem to be a spiritual person, you should look to green. Actually, green is pretty close to blue on the spiritual side, cause remember that the pendulum swings back from orange to community-centered. The major shift you need to make is to change your understanding of God from external (blue) to internal (green+). Shift your focus from prayer to personal development. Shift your focus from a relationship with an external God to your relationship with yourself and others (also you). All that being said, there's nothing wrong with science, it's fantastic. But I think you realize there's a lot more to life than that. Cultivate the proper perspective, and see that to orange, science is a religion. The major problem with ANY stage in tier 1 is that they're not aware of their own limits. Practice humility and acceptance of all walks of life, and that will get you far.

@Nahm there's nothing ominous about it, it's funny more than anything!

@Aaron p Isn't it obvious? When you start getting to these levels of synchronicity (trust me, I'm there as well), there can really only be one explanation. Perhaps it's too radical to accept yet, but you'll get there

Day 17: Energy: 3 Awareness: 3 Sexual thoughts/urges: 3 Self-esteem: 4 Social confidence: 3

That's a mature decision, listen to your intuition. Entheogens are extremely powerful tools, and they'll always be there later. I was just pointing out to be careful of holding an ideology (that blocks you from direct experience). You fundamentally can't trust anything that anyone says, so it's untenable to judge things before you've tried them. As someone who has considerable experience with natural and synthetic entheogens, I've actually had my best experiences with "synthetic" substances. They are equally potent tools, and there's no reason whatsoever to believe that one is better than the other. Is it not all fundamentally natural? A better question is what isn't natural? I'm not saying I'm "right" and I'm not saying Ms. Swan is "right," that's completely irrelevant. Just to be wary of an opinion or feeling potentially cutting you off from spiritual growth avenues entirely.

Wanna know why you feel stuck? Because you know that you fundamentally can't find happiness out THERE in the world, and yet you're insisting on relying on others to guide you and do the work for you. "If only I get the help and support I need, I'll make it." You understand deep down that this is a dead-end street, and that's why you're depressed, with seemingly no hope. This is all self-inflicted, and yes, that's a bitter pill. At some point, you're going to have to admit that no one else has the ability to set you straight. Not that they won't, or that they're lazy and selfish, but that they CAN'T. You couldn't pay someone else enough money to do it, because it's not actually possible! You have to admit that you have deep systemic psychological issues, and no matter how much outside "help" you attain (mere baindaids), you will remain wounded until you fix your issues from the inside out. It's imperative that you take full 100% responsibility for you life during this stage. There can't even be a slight whiff of victim mentality if you're to become your greatest version. Now, if you want specific guidance on how to do this, then you're at the right place (I have a hunch you know what you should be doing though). You're just going to have to be proactive and specific, leading with purpose. If you decide that you want a better life, then the universe will be absolutely certain in giving that.

It's an ideology if you hold an opinion without having any direct experience of it. Be careful here...

Ultimately you'll have to discard them, just like any model or system, but that doesn't mean it isn't useful in order to get closer. Never confuse the map for the territory, but the map IS a helpful guide. Don't discard it until you know the territory like the back of your hand, and keep it around for newbies. @ivankiss YES!! ...I mean no...

The healthy manifestations of higher stages have incorporated and included the healthy aspects of the lower ones. So in the distant future, what's currently known as stage blue will not exist in large groups. The after that orange won't exist, and so on. It'll just be a more holistic understanding, cause the higher stages never forgot the lower ones

@ivankiss Perhaps this is just mental masturbation? "Nothing" and "everything" are concepts. "After" is a concept that implies subject- object duality of time. None of these things actually exist. Maybe the most accurately you could point to this Truth with language would be to say, "There is and always was eternal, infinite void, which is simultaneously everything and nothing." Even that is implying certain aspects and saying too much

It matters to Roman. I thought it would be more helpful to ask, instead of telling him exactly why he's unhappy with the site. That kind of lecturing usually falls on deaf ears. I mean, if he's gonna leave he's gonna leave, I personally couldn't give less of a shit. I think he's been exposed to enough new perspectives to be helpful moving forward as it is. Even though he can't see it

@Preetom I wanted to hear it from him.

What made you come to this conclusion?

Day 16: Energy: 2 Awareness: 3 Sexual thoughts/urges: 3 Self-esteem: 3 Social confidence: 3 Didn't get much sleep. Feel REALLY fucking down in the dumps. Fuck this whole thing! (not really, that's just the mind state I'm at right now. Shit is difficult).

The weird part is realizing that your previous indoctrinated beliefs were actually the weird ones... lol. There's nothing weird about this stuff, it's actually so amazingly simple that it's a complete mindfuck and you can barely grasp it... cause there's nothing to latch onto.