SoonHei

@theking00 couple of things here. important to know that "theking00" cannot escape the Matrix. as for YOU, well, you are not stuck in the Matrix... YOU are the Matrix. with this, your question becomes silly... like this. there is a fish in the water. The fish then asks: how do I become wet? I am sure you can easily see why this question cannot be answered... the "how" is giving whatever follows it a platform of possibility, but that isn't the case. the answer is, the fish cannot become wet, it is already it. Now, there is no HOW all of a sudden. same deal here. YOU (the real/true/eternal you) were never "inside" the Matrix so to speak... your question of HOW falls apart. so right now you are asking this question as theking00 and the teaching states that theking00 cannot escape the matrix. that is all.

also. what i meant by understanding reflected in the dream story is that my ego/soonhei will be acting out as i currently understand the teachings to be... even without direct experience of it. not feeling stressed about this deal that i work at this place or am responsible for denying claims (which may be allowable) others around me are so stressed about this... some for other reasons.. some for having to deal with the people after denied claims... but me, it seems i just deal with each case as a 'number' not a person... with my current understanding. this allows me to function well in this role... I, dont let this effect ME (as the ego/SELF)

if i work in an industry wherein as per the policy, we may end up denying a person's case even when we know it should not be denied... all the proof maybe there but if it does not adhere to our policies, i cannot allow it. this denying of the claim causes the person suffering... as a result they are having to pay medical bills, healthcare costs, lost time from work from their own pockets... now for myself, is this wrong in telling myself not to take it personally and feel bad about a person who i know should be getting coverage but is not... i think to myself, that it is, as it is, playing out exactly as it should. me thinking and getting attached to it and wanting a personal result will cause me suffering is this me being realistic? ... turning a blind eye to the suffering of the other person on the grounds that well, i work at an organization and they have a certain set of rules and policies... and i must adhere to it. i am not denying a case because i want to, it is because i cannot establish the criteria to allow the claim... i think leo talked about this in one of his videos... like what would a lawyer really feel like if he reflected on his whole career... it is living a lie pretty much... anyhow... just want to ensure, this isn't like an ego trap or anything to justify the what is happening... and well, really, it is just what is happening... so detaching myself from this, telling myself it is, as it is - hopefully this isn't psychopathic view... almost being heartless to the crying persons reaching out to me about denied cases...

When working on myself as a person and self reflecting on myself based on recent past... If you think you're a very shitty person, then apart from also ignoring the thought that it's not YOU, is being okay with myself as being a shitty person ok? Is that what they call the first step? Admitting or rather just simply seeing that you are what you are and what's done is done. Acknowledging that you're that way but not beating yourself up for it, accepting and then certainly taking to fix that. ?

@winterknight wow I love that movie analogy And the "person in the theater" . Wow This intellectual understanding alone is quite.liberating for.me! This just helps paint a better picture so to speak and how and exactly why surrender is being directed... Like watching a movie and literally feeling sad as if you were the main character... Wow. But how extremely subtle... Almost not.subtle at all As it is one! It's already the case... Though the plot of the movie, even with respect to weather your search ends or not, is already "written" or in other words there isn't a "you" there doing anything or Making choices so what's appears is simply flowing ... Godliness is flowing

@Ampresus Yes... if you were DOING the DO NOTHING method... that's where you're doing it wrong

@ivankiss lovely as always. thank you

WhatNo-Body and nobody Wow. I like that.@How to be wisewisewisewisewisewisewisewise ---------------- Unsure how to delete above, using my phone and doesn't delete the user tag and the text ----------------- So wanted to add that as "What Is" is ising... It can be said that the story of life is lifeing Even this understanding above that what is / life is constantly unfolding and happening is part of that happening And it is all happening to/in the NOW. Self aware and sustaining existence existing eternally.

What Is is, ising.

talked a non-duality teacher (self realized) which a friend introduced to me yesterday over the phone. my first time with such encounter... i am not sure if it was due to the fact that it was over the phone... or just a different platform with speaking about non-duality with someone i know to be awakened... by i didn't really quite know what to talk about or ask... almost like what you see in tony parson/ jim newman's meetings... it's like a question forms (if/when it finally does) like a wave... and there is this tension so to speak which can only be seemingly resolved with the answer the answer is the wave crashing back into the ocean thereby bringing upon peace and solving that question with this, it was seen that questions are truly never ending and a helpless pursuit... sure, one can't help if the questions form but seeing and understanding this naturally will shun many if not most questions from forming... just the waves and the ocean dancing - nothing to see / ask here

@Shin meh. that point not too important here the discovery was more powerful. but yeah, some dude - common guy, in my area who teaches non-duality and is well known. no online presence. anyhow. i hadn't been more quite before lol as to what to ask or talk about because in knowing answers wont give whatever it is I am searching for

@winterknight hmmm yes. thanks and i agree as awareness simply is and is watching the play - either knowingly or not. a serial killer can be consciously or unconsciously be doing his deed. it's all a wonderful construct the more you understand. truly absolutely infinite and perfect. the only way it can be...

@winterknight there are the ying and yang to enlightenment... mostly, the ying side is talked about and seen and popular... But of course, there must also be and thus is the Yang. Now what I mean with these is: I talk about ying as "good" And I talk about yang as "bad/evil" They are in quotes because ultimately there is no such thing and I get that. So with that said, my question is, enlightenment can also mean a person who was a psyopath killer prior to Awakening and he then has an awakening and it's permanent... then can his behavior can remain as it was if not infinitely worsen yet he would still be the buddah? This would be the God POV of Hell side of enlightenment and it's ever worsening "experience" ? Vs the good side.of enlightenment mooji/sadhguru etc that can be said to be God's POV of the good/heaven side of enlightenment? (Again the hell/heaven are distinctions) but i am using them in the context of what occurs/unfolds from the pov of a human in this dream of life.

@Nahm thank you like always. your words strike as lightning deep into me indeed. the way it happens in my case is being identified as the person and worrying. just telling myself and feeling it out that i am not that and using past confirmations to address and confirm that it is not just an idea but i am truly not the person. then detachment occurs. and there is a bit of ease... i was about to write that I kind of feel sorry for the character, being in that predicament.... but then realized who feels sorry but the character itself @Skanzi yes. i agree with you. it's labeling myself first, and then furthering it by trying to "accept" it . kinda building your own story there so to speak but yeah. shitty/mean/self-ish person... relatively speaking.. like, i was asked by a friend to be mindful about something which i did not end up doing... but as i see thru these habbits. the energy in them tends to ease i like that video by Leo... "awareness alone is curative" - very much the case @Truth Addict and detach. the only "way" <3

in a more fearful or less fearful way? @WelcometoReality

@Preetom ur so very right! Nobody to eat the cake Truth is for truth And to really eat that cake, you must become and surrender to the truth But this.means.knowing.and.accepting fully the consequences of my actions and yes here again the I speaks To enjoy the cake. I must become nobody... Abide as and become nothing. @cetus56 public swimming hours from 2-5pm.daily @WelcometoReality yes brother. Thoughts alone i can handle.. it's rather the karmic consequences of certain actions which were taken that I am worried about Like being tied to a tree and seeing the forrest fire approaching... the Thought that the fire is coming to be and will likely burn me... Is a thought but it's likely the case and "true" So here there is nothing but its acceptance and surrender to the truth. Become noone, truly. Effortless becoming.

Blessed posts fellas

@cetus56 hmmm Sure. Acknowledging the negative however would imply the projection for forthcoming negative domino effect Like if i forgot to shut the tap and left the home. I am 100km away when i remember this is so... Now i expect my basement to be flooded for example The basement flooding which will result, that is what is called karma? I guess turning that to positive... Maybe i needed to redo my floors in basement so it's good? @zambize thank you. Yes the same thought process... @Highest if only i was at a point to be able to abide from and as that... @Preetom yeah. That's crazy! the groundless meaning nature of thoughts wow. Indeed. I guess with that, if i take out the I, no issue is there... It just really means that you have to be just ok with whatever happens Dropping the I is the case when there is no worry or nobody there to accept or reject the situation... So the moment there is a question of this worry again means the I has been picked back up... Hmmm kinda talked out loud to myself there (Well that's always the only case though, isn't it) @Serotoninluv Not using the "this is just what I am" in an unhealthy way... I feel that maybe the case here for me... I have a pattern of thoughts about being and not being the doer of my actions. Which either makes me reason with myself and do something i normally wouldn't do... Saying to myself well. I wont step in to stop. And if that's what's happens, then well that is what was supposed to happen (it is true) but it's this knowledge in the wrong hands (my ego) and it causes this Thought and repeated negative behavior I have been trying to stop...

No-Body and nobody Wow. I like that.@How to be wise

@winterknight thank you. A pleasure as always.

Also had this insight that the body does not know, technically or heck even directly, that what "I the Self" or even the character knows. There is only an apparent connection between it. It just occurs on the same frame and we make a story out of it. And well the body is a distinction and that dissolves the body right there

@How to be wise how about this spin... When I say, it's "true", then it is True. And then, a second later, I say it's "untrue", then it's Untrue.

@win@winterknight From the fully realized "POV" which I consider to be yours/mooji/spira/tolle's ever-present experience which doesn't shift back and forth... From that POV, would the "awakened one" care or have preference over if IT were to shift between having the POV of a character who is awakened and rich vs a character who is awakened and poor, homeless and say partially blind. In other words, when that "which I am" is seen as already and eternally to be self realized would it care about what then unfolds out in my life? Like if there is hardship initially and then whatever or even hardship and a.continued downward spiral... As long as one is buddah, there is no more to be done? It is, as it is? Even with the character sitting down and doing nothing, and having the realization he is buddah, this is ok? (I am sure Bad for the character but ok for the self) Another question The realization that all is unfolding as it should really for.me personally brings me to just being ok with the situation, no matter how shitty things are... But the trick here is that this may allow things to get worse because you aren't doing anything about it. It's almost as if it's like the character really has to be okay with the present circumstances if it's the reflection of the understanding, however should also look back and see the repetitive negative behaviours leading the line of destruction of your life and what you should learn your responsibility as the ME and create and work for the work which will bring your life back to track.

@How to be wise lol it is and isn't true.

@Amun don't think he was asking He was telling you!