SoonHei

@How to be wise essentially YOU are detaching from the sense of do-ership. keep in mind. the mind/ego is ONE movement... and it was always doing its thing on its own. you having the illusion of control only.

is that what it is? losing yourself in the moment totally... where the attention isn't zero-ed in on any 1 particular part/abstraction of the experience. but the whole of it... and YOU have no knowledge really of the contents as you're simply taking in raw experience, moment to moment. ? and if there is some conversation taking place... it's sort of like you're day dreaming or zoned out... yet when it is "your" body's turn to speak... it speaks on its own accord... just like while driving, the body drives on its own after you drive enough times... or like riding a bike... the mechanics of how you're operating a car now as an expert is unknown to you... (effortless action) is that what unknowing / not-knowing is when it comes to totally being in the moment? YOU do not know what is going to happen next... yet the body/mind is an active participant in the next moment while a task/role/words of its own. i ask this as I find practice of going within myself during regular interactions and not just in quite meditation sits. i feel as if i am zoned out... yet i am talking and replying back to the person i am speaking with... but have no memory really about what was just talked about... is having little/no-memory also part of unknowing? One finds one does not need to remember and all intelligent action simply arises as YOU recede more and more backwards / within.

@Nahm hmmm Is it not thought+Belief = creation of Reality .. for that bit of consiousness? In this case. Absolute total Belief... Totally fearless... More like cannot wait to blow himself up in anticipation of what's to come sort of belief.

@winterknight great work!

@Aakash dunno... BEING for me is understood in a visualization-sense (it's not the real deal, because visualization is a part, not the whole) but think of a 3d cube of reality... floating in space and that BLOCK of reality just being that cubed-block, yet morphing/moving from one moment to the next... the morphing/moving is occuring within its stillness... this is essential. BEING is what is seemingly resulting from it. this makes it all messy. cuz words/concepts... sounds/vibrations are being used to communicate something which cannot be done this way. like me trying to tell you what Kit-Kat tastes like with words.

this is a "radical" consequence of how the reality is structured. A suicide bomber who has been "brainwashed" into thinking that his death while killing the "infidels" earns him a ticket to heaven with 72 virgins for eternity... upon killing himself WILL GET the heaven with 72 virgins for eternity the key here is his absolute trust/faith in this... so much so that he is literally killing himself willingly to get it. he has NO doubts whatsoever. reality is mirrored by beliefs. what one beliefs he becomes/gets/has.

@Aakash it means what you want it to... even if it means something else.

@Aakash both of you don't actually realise what it being means for god. distinctions/concepts ^^^ cannot realise yourself... can only be yourself.

@Mu_ BEing. CHANGE is the one constant... so imagine if reality without change - if experience could be "paused" / frozen: BE with change (as it always has been): BEing even the freezing/paused experiences of eternity are BEing and that's because I AM the ONE TRUE CONSTANT. The Change-less.

@zeroISinfinity lovely artwork! or is that a parrot?

yes. the meta sees the no-mind it's not TRUE meta... (cannot be because it is IT) but meta will do for the sake of talking @Nahm

@Aakash i think due to this not being a live face 2 face talk. you're maybe confused about what i am saying. i am able to see what it is you're saying. and i'm saying the same thing potato - poTAto that assumed position is not TRUE. i was talking about the moment one falls back into ignorance or identification with the I.. with identification, there is someone who moves - thus the 'mover' the mover is the assumed position which never was there is movement and the mover is part of that / one with that and 'mover' is an abstraction of the whole movement ... there is no static singular entity of a mover thought is that abstraction which creates the mover in the whole of movement. thought IS the Mover.

yes... no real mover... hence why the mover was in quotes 'mover' it is in retrospect that the labels like a "mover" are assigned on the assumed position.. for the sake of talking about it.

@Aakash nice analogy aakash. the dots with the black-sheet. yes. ONE being with infinite eyes each eye an individuated awareness stars in the infinite sky @Nahm @Jacobsrw once the thought is caught/seen... once seen that there is identification with a 'mover' in the movement. that particular movement ends/drops. and that rests it.

@Nahm it seems like a see-saw though. there is falling away from clarity and then returning back to it... upon investigating "do i really know what's going on" the thought which immediately follows is "who is asking this" and then there is resting back in that knowing of myself. and with that, there's even further thoughts... do I really need to figure any of this out? because i don't. i am already and always me. and this is KNOWN as the higher-mind which speaks for me (or about me) but isn't me...

@zeroISinfinity effortless isness ising vortex is like the roots of a tree but for existence/isness but these roots are nowhere and thus errrrryyywhere

@Nahm thanks! understanding arises for SoonHei SoonHei likey more and more is revelaed by rocking in the NOW all various ideas/concepts and other different things - all end up at the shore of NOW - "end up at"

nothing with fear as far as I am concerned. for me. it's the knowing of what I am and then acting out of that knowing. with that, there is never when one isn't in the present moment... there is ONLY the present moment, so the question of being in the moment becomes crazy talk so acting out of the understanding gives birth to the experience / unfolding which is in-line with the understanding of our true position. if it can be said this way... there are bad/evil/egoic/selfish/conditioned/devil thoughts and then there are unconditioned/good/intuitive thoughts/loving/spontaneous/angel thoughts neither are ME but ONE is in-line with the TRUTH and the other is not. both are just the mind battling itself. but when the true position is known, there is functioning from the good thoughts actions only. the higher-awakened mind.

@Aakash nothing is happening is not what you think it is. nothing happened or nothing is happening is TRUE when you watch a movie on a screen/projector. NOTHING really is happening... there are sounds, and images on the screen. there is a play of all that in the room you're watching the movie in. but there is no bad guy running from the cops... or a guy/girl kissing ... all that is in the story which is created from connecting one moment into the next so nothing is happening points to the understanding only. not LITERALLY nothing is happening. and from the ABOLSUTE point-of-view... the same understanding follows like your dreams at night happen but do not really happen anywhere or in time. rest assured, not-knowing is not what you're saying... about the nothing is happening.

eternal roller coaster ride once you overcome the fear of the roller coaster then it's a fun ride... eternal fun

woah epix

@fridjonk lol e-indeed ! you are e-right my friend lol this is starting to kinda sound like an exaggerated thick italian accent e-hello, nice to e-meet you seniOr happy friday yall <3

@Leo Gura it's never about/describing NOW

caterpillar (not the company, but the sea turtle)

LOLOLOL @Aakash you're the best bro <3 <3 fly high! you aint need no wings! but e-wings will get you there