SoonHei

amen

in this waking state I am aware of my true-state and that unfolds this waking state in accordance to that understanding. anger, sadness is still there, but much, much less. and whenever it does arise, the returning back to the true-state ends that before it explodes anywhere. now, this being aware of my true-state does not translate into my dreams (sleeping dreams)... such that, though i am aware of my true-state in this waking state, when i got to sleep at night. there is a discontinuity... if i happen to be in the middle of a snowstorm and building an igloo... there will not be the knowing that just moments before i was on my bed trying to sleep... so this leads me to ask this question, the fact that i am aware of my true-state in this waking state, and after each night's sleep, i wake up in this reality with that understanding... is it just that i am aware in this dream-reality... and not in TRUTH? am I deluding myself? at the same time, there will not be any difference between SoonHei vs My true-self being aware of my true self. how can one disern that one is not deluding themself... that SoonHei is just swapping the human mask with the true-self mask... because if it were really the true-self aware of the true-self... then forgetfulness would not be the case as it is in my dreams... i am not lucid, that I am dreaming... i am aware this waking state is none other than a dream... actually there is no difference between this vs my "dreams at night" from the absolute view... so is that the case? once there is TRUE KNOWING. is it total - such that one remains aware going from waking dream to sleeping dreams at night back to the waking dream and so on... ? i think there is a topic about that posted recently as well where duality between dream vs reality collapses... to me this is the case as well, but it is a knowing/understanding... not sure what a FELT KNOWING of this would be... that would be adding a layer there which may not even need to be added...

yes. this part here... ^^^ this is what led me to start this thread... the state in which the sage is established... thank you @Eu Sint yes. it is understood. and the one wanting to be in that state is seen. ? @Serotoninluv damn. and i thought hurricane meant devastation only. sounds like fun times! weather, storms etc were always my fascination as a kid. have played in fair bit of rain and storms myself ... and wow. just talking about this, had memories flash about all those times when playing in the rain was a thing! imagination as a kid is on some next level indeed. good times... fun times indeed.

THE EYE OF THE HURRICANE

@Serotoninluv thank you for showing me once again my inability to accept the ordinary and casual dull boring finale of it... and you're right. the whole obsession of WHATS NEXT and trying to see and arrive at the station I have heard of.... all the while the person itself is still latching on... @Nahm can't blame me then can you? i wouldn't be the most sneakiest if i don't sneak past myself every once in a while... /end.

@zeroISinfinity from what you describe. it seems it is a phenomena? so IT too shall pass?

@zeroISinfinity yes. that's what i mean by KNOWING... the BEING of it. beyond the knowing that all happens as it should... that there is no do-er. it is also seen that the thought "i did this or that... or I decided to move my hand.. or I decided to write this thread" is ALWAYS AFTER the deed is done. right when it is being done. there is no ME doing it. i guess i'm looping in on myself here... the thought wanting the liberation... or that state where i remain fixated in that knowing while the transition between waking/dreaming occurs... What is left when actual ONE remains is state of Union with God and returning back to home which you never left. = i searched for God and found only myself. i searched for myself and found only God

@Leo Gura @Eu Sint @Nahm @Koyaanisqatsi @Serotoninluv

Just keep quiet Just keep quiet I am a slave of Love I am a devotee of my Master With me just talk about Him, nothing else Don’t talk about your suffering mind Don’t talk about your problems If you don’t understand this Just keep quiet Don’t say anything Keep quiet my Love Keep quiet my Love I got mad yesterday Love saw me and said I am coming, don’t cry loudly, don’t scream, Just keep quiet, don’t say anything I said I’m scared of this Love said, now it is gone, there is nothing here Just keep quiet, don’t say anything I said, I whisper all of my secrets into your ears It nodded its head and said: Don’t speak with me with words Don’t say anything Just keep quiet In the path of Love Such a great Master has been found How beautiful is this journey with Him But, don’t say anything, Just keep quiet. I said, is he human or an angel? Love said, he is not human or an angel, He is something else Don’t say anything Just keep quiet I said, please tell me, who is he I am getting mad of this unknowing Love said, stay in this space, don’t say anything, just keep quiet. I said, I bow at your feet, please tell me, is he God? Love said, Yes He Is. But keep quiet, don’t say anything. Now is the time to move from this colorful and beautiful house The dream of your life, Just move out, just go, Don’t say anything, just keep quiet. Keep quiet my Love, keep quiet my Love Just keep quiet, Keep quiet my Love.

No. Not always. People have reported having various types of awakenings in which they were omnipresent, 360° views, infinte prespective Reality is never ever limited to "always" The only always it has is that it will always be without limitations

@Kubia oh yes! sense doors are not to be shut down , nor do they shut-down for a non-dual state there is only ever senses just the MY drops... so it goes from MY SENSES to just SENSES whose senses? before any thought or interpretation, it is just SENSES sensing, hearing, touching, tasting, feeling as Paul Hedderman says

Shutting Down Interpretation = no thoughts/story about situation simply whatever is perceived by your senses is sensed. no labels added. no subtitles. simply what is. where then is YOU and OTHER if no labels or thoughts are present so yes. non-dual

It works both ways. I think bhakta means identified as EGO surrendering to God And jnani means as the true Self.

@Serotoninluv @Serotoninluv ? His way is certainly very clear. This analogy: That-Which-You-Are-Not is hearing (claiming to be the hearer) the message about That-Which-You-Are. Now, You try to arrive at That-Which-You-Are on the imaginary horse of That-Which-You-Are-Not.

@barcos well your state of consious was clearly different than your regular day to day... Funny enough, that's what's the case... How is it possible, whatever you experience daily... It's magical... You just got a glimpse of what the quote "the ordinary, becomes the extraordinary" really means To someone who lives in an African village, times square new York would blow his mind in awe vs those who sit in the middle of all that and just go about their business.

This guy posts weekly videos. He was an alcoholic. He was in alcohol anonymous as a recovering addict when his shift happened. He is fully realized. Has great pointers as well.

Have had this too. Houses on my street seemed like monopoly houses and the street seemed like it was a board I suppose i was a monopoly piece ?

@Serotoninluv thank you for that. It confirms how it appears for me. Thanks ! The understanding dawns... In the current chapter that is

@Serotoninluv is it fair to say that "reality" never breaks character... ? Meaning even for the self realized, that awakening and living from that point onwards (relatively speaking) is all part of the dream. Like an actor can break character while filming a movie... But if we equate breaking character with enlightenment, that 'enlightenment' is still part of the play, yes?

The movie is infinite Sfg. Frjyder. Gscv dgfe et hh ddsx ddhrs hfssc eegbv ddcetghg CV hnydcvb gdseew as dc. Ghn Sure, that's me writing that. Only saying the lines as the plot requires it to be. I'm just an actor saying my lines, including this line.

Very nice

@ActualizedDavid the question can be about anything... you say aliens... but what about mathematics? or physics or space exploration, or amazon rain forest, or basketball? guess aliens as well as many other things may not have been relevant to what they were preaching. also... there's truly no WHY for anything. any answer to a WHY?-question can itself be questioned as WHY and so on.

had a deja-vu with that title because of what it is. there was this thread about it once, try reading some of that

You decide Or is there really a difference?