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thank you Leo <3 love to get a nod from you. shows me i am at least looking at the pointer in correct light if not yet the thing being pointed to this shakes my soul in 'anticipation' of that moment lol. can't "wait" 2 years vs 20-30 years... WHERE THE 5-MeO at??? of course you do! you think there need be 'people' to call it a universe? you are the larger galaxy in which blood cells live as 'humans' small bacteria and all, they are dumb and dull to us, but they are intelligent in their own way we are also bacteria or just dull cells to the earth, or out galaxy as a whole - remember, it is all conscious and intelligent

It is all one. Leo as well as many others have said that whatever you may think the TRUTH to be, it isn't it. I don't say that this video here is THE example of what reality is like but from what I have learned thus far, about reality being groundless and infinite, I feel this video comes closest. hen, what this video is depicting is a snapshot of a single moment in 'time' of reality the part about the infinte intelligence of reality is such that as you zoom in deeper and deeper (or zoom out) there is some form of life or forms in general and it is all connected as can be seen in the video so if this snapshot were a moving live image as it were being zoomed in, then that's what the design of reality is like... and maybe not even then, although it comes quite close but for reality.. not only is it "moving" it is all of the possibilities, all at once, present, in such a way that u can zoom in infintely deeper and out infintely and find form/life and it will be all connected like an elegant infinte clockwork. GOD IS GREAT i firmly believe that the structure of reality is as such (those who have awakened or had a glimpse can correct me if needed) and whats the impossiblity or mind-boggling/fucking aspect of it is that upon awkening, you "BECOME" this whole ineffable object... you literally become all of it. just like right now you have 'become' your whole body... you BECOME the WHOLE OF REALITY and to somehow imagine the taste of intelligence.. just notice how intelligent you as a human being are. intelligent in the sense of your cognition, abilites etc all that you do.. now this infinte object, embodying the infinte object = infinte intelligence... we just cannot phatom that... and also for reality, it includes other thoughts/dimensions which are not even shown in the video.. so it really truly is infinite, in infinite dimension What reality is, is a 'single infinite object' (in a way) now, you can't bind an infinte object into form, but for the sake of understanding, imagine an unimaginably large Sphere - and in it, all of reality is contained.. upon enlightment or breakthrough.. you become that 'infinte object' and it cannot be named because what would you call that structure which is seen in the video? it's just called the ALL, the ONE,

Someone posted the following video in some thread last week. I have checked out the guy who's channel this is. He has so many videos all the way from 2008 onwards... What he does is most of his videos is give a preface to what the video is about and then closes his eyes and allows the higher self / the absolute to communicate about the topic. It is amazing. He, like Leo, has very lengthy videos, full of information. The part where he is channeling the higher self, those words seem golden. Now I guess there is a difference between this and how Leo does his videos. Leo's video's content and the way he describes is more related to our current phenomenal/form world and it's doings. However, I can't help but wonder, the way this guy channels his higher self - is that the same way Leo just talks about a topic... I assume he has some mental quick bullet points and rest is done in the moment. it must take great effort... but knowing Leo's been on the path and has had awakenings, i am sure his ability and the knowledge he spreads is backed up by and comes to him effortlessly just how this guy does the channeling...

the fact that there is no smallest particle... that reality is groundless

another thing is the golden spiral. that's literally the stamp of infinity the golden spiral/ratio is such that it is an irrational number (has to be that way) and the reason it is irrational is because that's the only possible mathematical way to completely fill something purely and fully, without a point of separation. so when we look into the making of any 'natural' object plant phenomena, it is a spiral inwards because it fills the tiniest points of space completely, showing and proving it is truly infinite on each level

yes. same question here and also, for those of you who have tried it. what progress/improvement if any since you began. thanks

lol really? unsure if you were being sarcastic or just shaking my soul up that what i am calling to be the entire understanding is merely 1% i don't doubt you for a second... as i said so myself that the true understanding comes from the experience of 'embodying' the absolute itself... but other than that, @Nahm would you say my understanding of this way about the structure of reality is correct? Leo has said himself that u can zoom in and find "universes upon universes" in your thumbnail or even on an atom etc so yeah, i have got this part correct yes?

that's not bad... Be melting snow... wash yourself of yourself

also. instead of googling or searching elsewhere, i may rather ask here kriya yoga vs 'normal' yoga.. what's the diff? is this a diff type of yoga? like advanced yoga? just like there are advanced meditation techniques. ? and where can i find the way to do this kriya yoga, like the physical postures / positions to sit in . and what to do and how to do it? lazily googled something before writing this and saw its from the AUTOBIO of a YOGI's author? he talks about the practice in the book or what? so please, if someone can send a link of videos which shows how to do it and explain it gonna see that leo's video i posted 2 posts above - unsure if he explains how to do this form of yoga in that. t thanks

is this the video he is talking about? i havent yet seen, so just confirming... this Kriya Yoga been popping up to me here and there quite a bit. gonna follow the universal signs yolo

Hmmm Damn yeah, that sounds likely... Being grounded into nothingness as they are already at that level of "base consciousness" to begin with

I was just curious about this topic. To those of you who maybe familiar, what do you think may happen to an enlightened master upon consuming a high dose of mushrooms, LSD, Salvia, DMT & especially 5-MeO-DMT? Would they at least experience hallucinations? I assume that they wouldn't experience oneness / breakthrough which a normal person experiences because that is already their normal state... But I was curious about hallucinations or the experience of being shot into another reality such that the they are no longer "physically" in the room which they consumed the drug in. What you do guys think?

when we say that reality is all the possibilities that can be, are. does that mean there is a "snapshot" of each of these instances of the universe which "exists" "physically" somewhere and just needs to be "viewed/experienced" ? like Leo says he could have died a trillion times from the moment he was born to the moment he said that line - really, he could have died an infinite amount of times as an infinite amount of things can happen and that also includes infinite deaths and if you think about reality such that it cannot be divvied into smaller parts such that there is always further smaller parts, same thing applies to "time" that there is smaller and smaller fractions of times and all of those exist between the tick of the second-hand of the clock, there are infinte "ticks" between them... there is no smallest "tick" and each of those "ticks" exist just understanding this intellectually is so mind blowing as to how massive and vast reality is... and Leo says HE BECAME IT... i suppose when you BECOME it, you FEEL/KNOW the size experimentally and i cannot, for the "life" of me, effin comprehend what that may freekin feel/look like GOD IS GREAT

@Capital so just watch the thoughts? the ideas which come up about how to handle the certain situation or do this/that. ignore them? like purpose of meditation is just to sit, watch the thoughts and let them go? take no action? if i find a solution to a problem i am having or whatnot. or that's some other meditation?

i know what you mean the reason why we take them seriously is because they ARE serious... to us... in our current state of awareness. for example, i may have thoughts just like you about a real life situation which i am having or something i have shunned away. that arises in the awareness during meditation and we can't help but to give it weight and attention because it concerns us and we relate to it i suppose it takes a while to be able to discern the thoughts as objects and then dis-attachment follows gradually

I presume you haven't heard of 5-LeO-DMT.

@Leo Gura i have a question to you and all in general about this one there's a video Leo made about doing the DO NOTHING meditation 20 mins a day, everyday - for the rest of your life he said you should start seeing results maybe in a month-3 months time... like very basic subtle changes but then it grows exponentially does this also work for someone who is starting off with the DO NOTHING meditation, without having done much of the other ones?

@Ingit what meditation are you doing? the DO NOTHING meditation? and these thoughts are coming into your awareness?

wow that's great! good to hear. god bless you! the new path of life you have found sounds very fruitful and a lot better than the old version of you as you describe can't wait to stand at the place you're at now someday

@wavydude you've had an experience on that? another bigger episode was something i had equal to what you may see on youtube for k2/flakka - what i took was far less than that, but i was completely blackedout and just recall waking up my friends told me that for 20 mins straight i was screaming at the top of my voice and kicking violently also singing some "song" in a differerent "language" which was strange AF they were all semi-litt too. so no video was had, but when i woke, i did see the destrcction around the room i had done

This happened roughly in March 2017 - I was 27. My friends and I had been smoking weed here/there. It was quite new to us and we were all in the later stages of our lives and felt quite youthful having finally tried weed. Never tried it in school and stayed away from all that jazz back in those days. We found this "King Kush" incense - some product at a convenience store. We thought it's synthetic weed and that's what it might have been. The first time we tried it, it was crazy! Mostly because of how quickly the high came on and how strong it was in just one or two puffs from a pipe. Usually wore off within 25-40 mins. So one night, right before I entered my house after coming back from a night out with friends. I decided to take a quick puff of this stuff before I came in. It was quite late at night and my goal was to take a puff and run up straight to my room (knowing the high would be kicking in as I am running up to my room - I live with my parents) So that's what I did, quick puff and then I ran up. BTW, I should note this is a very "mild" substance, weed like effects but felt stronger, quicker and a bit psychotic tbh. anyways, the high kicked in midway as I am going up to my room and I just push myself forward and make it to the safety of my room. After about 10-20 seconds I entered in, something changed, almost instantly... My visual field was all the same, I have dim lights in my room for night but thinking back it seems maybe the light became more pronounced - anyhow. What changed was all of what I saw did not make any sense. I had take off my shirt as I usually sleep shirtless - and I was standing infront of my mirror, I noticed how/what the fuck is on my chest ( looking at my nipples ) then I saw my face, eyes, nose... i looked at each of these facets which we have and almost had to remind myself that this is what we call nose, mouth, nipples, hands, arms - i looked around my room, saw my bed, pillow, drawer, lamp and had to make a consiouses reminder thought that this is what it is called or this is what it means... the whole thing was very disorienting and freighting... i recall asking myself that well maybe this is the effect of the drug... but it had a strong sense of sanity about it. i was asking myself that how can I un-see or forget this perspective... even after my high comes down, this understanding/sight will be there. it was like, how do i return back to "normal" again. i don't remember if i contemplated too much about other aspects of life like my job, friends, education etc... but i saw us humans as "creatures" - not human... as in, i saw us for what we are... we feel very superior or advanced due to our intellect, and we are so! but in that state, i saw myself and all of humans as "creatures" or just mammals - that's the word which came to me at the time. thinking back, after learning about spirituality and all this - i wonder if this was a brief episode of dark night of the soul / meaninglessness - i saw the contents of my visual field and mind as what IT IS. not the "meaning" we give to it... as i write this, i don't think this was a glimpse or awakening as i thought of myself as a 'me' or 'ego' saying that I am a mammal/creature.. not a human.. the thought about having genitals especially was like wtf is this... we have this thing between our legs and we find a female and 'mate' it was all very biological view of life as other animals are... anyways, i told myself - used my religion as the grounding. i am a Muslim. i recited some verses from the Quran and thought about God and told myself it will be normal when i wake up. and i forced myself to sleep. i cant say i want to be in that state again but i also cant help but think if i missed a great chance at awakening - using the stuff i know now about surrendering or self-inquiry.. if done in that state may have given me deeper realizations and rather than to see my body and then give it meaning etc. i could have just see what IS and maybe see the beauty of it's isness... but yes. any input of what exactly that was. it was unlike what you would call a normal high from weed or even that stuff which i had tried b4 with different consistent effects - this was a one off scenario and looking back, may have somehow made the universe connect me to this path i am on today...

@exhale that's nice to hear! what practices if any have you been doing since stumbling upon Leo? or is it just listening to what he's been teaching and applying that at intellectual level only? any meditation?

@cetus56 hmmm yeah. havent used that stuff since that episode lol after that episode.. searched online for what happeneed... couldnt really find something to relate to.. or how to explain it.. one thing led to the other. found spirtuality meditation etc along the way somewhere and then Leo's stuff on youtube came up from somewhere and then here we are today

@cetus56 wow. thank you very much for that. this makes sense. and that's totally the case! hmmmm. likely the case... not 100% maybe because i still was 'me' but with all that new . . it was surreal. amen to that

@Highest hmmmm interesting... i always feel that high and meditation requires more effort... maybe the weed aint good nuff lol @cetus56 just how i viewed things/prespective change i recall someone saying that enlightmenet/awkening state is viewing the world without lables... like what we call a flower isnt a flower, and a chair isnt a chair.. its just labels of forms/appearances we have given. it was like that in a way... looking at objects in my room and wondering wth is all this and why we call it the things we do.. and also deep meaninglessness and hopelessness - like why is all this here.. and also the whole mammal/creature feeling away from this inteligence we think we are just thinking now as i wrote this. that what our body/form is.. is just plain/dumb form... a creature indeed. i couldnt put my "intelligent self" together in the body when i saw what the body really is.. like an animal... so i guess that's the huge difference.. i saw/felt the divine knowing/intelligence which i am and knew it cannot be this 'dumb'/plain body which i thought i was...