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Another way to look at it if this It's all abstract. Meaningless Even 2+2=4 is meaningless So sure, it all just is And it's TRUTH

That Dog is Woke!

but that would eff me up no? i assume the zen master with the 40 years under his belt has intergrated the teachings/insights slowly over the years vs me / anyone else getting that all in 15 mins only... am i, by just asking about this, almost asking for a negative to follow the 5meo trip? i hope not... but i feel strongly that intergration would be lacking very very much unless ur talking about the insights during the trip and maybe like few hours after that and then ur ego will return faster than the speed of light @Leo Gura

@hundreth i was gonna ask this too

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@MarkusSweden can u post link to the thread where he used that screen analogy I love reading those out. Thanks in advance

@Leo Gura so when this idea is seen to be an illusion or when the idea die is there a new idea formed once this one falls away? and to that one, who sees the idea of a person for the illusion it is before physical death of the body (dies before dies) does that "one" form another NEW idea after the death of the physical body she/he once thought they were? cuz while enlightened, that "person" still communicates via the body until that body dies..

@Leo Gura Very Powerful. Thank you! <3 But it's not really an experience, or a perception, or a thought, or a belief, or knowledge. It's something entirely new which you've never encountered before. And yet it's right there under your nose right this second. What you're missing is that you have 100% raw direct unmediated access to Absolute Truth, prior to perception or experience. Because you believe that you exist, this sense of self which you think is real has co-opted the Absolute and recontextualized it as "my experience". Such that the Absolute is right there, but you cannot see it because the ego has managed to convince itself that "this is MY experience". Once the ego is realized to be an illusion, "experience" will be recontextualized into the Absolute. THANK YOU

@Serotoninluv yes. that exactly. i listen to Rupert quite a bit. and have heard him use these analogy many times. and yeah, that's what i meant - just may not have said it as it was needed to be just "breaking" it down using further that all the experieince occurs "infront of You" and well, it's closer than that, as IT IS YOU and MADE OUT OF YOU

We all know ports... USB ports, Audio ports, Video ports That's the key. Ports! ports open the Portal of your entire Experience! There are 6 ports (maybe more - someone else with a higher understanding can maybe add here if there are more) 1. Seeing / Video 2. Hearing / Audio 3. Feeling / Sensing 4. Smell 5. Taste 6. Thought / Mind You are the BLANK SCREEN on which YOUR ENTIRE EXPERIENCE plays on with the help of these 6 ports. Most powerful is # 6 and that is what you have to stop receiving the input from to realize and see the other 5 senses for what they are and how they all blend together to give you ONENESS. it is ONE EXPERIENCE. Just like when you're watching a movie - you are seeing/hearing (feeling if watching a 4D movie with moving seats lol) It is ONE movie. all as a whole, that you're watching. But the main point of it all being ONE EXPERIENCE and ONE is this. You, the body which you see, you feel, you can touch - that is also the feedback which you are receiving VIA the ports. You, the BLANK AWARE SCREEN - sees the body, touches and feels the body, tastes with it - yet it is just more feedback/data being sent to you via these "ports" You exist in a place outside reality - meta-reality , in a place-less-place. That is where all this data is "sent" to you where you "see" it How liberation from suffering happens is upon the experiential understanding of this. One KNOWS VIA THEIR EXPERIENCE that this is TRUE and not just as an intellectual understanding as this here (you see, reading it does nothing. if you have read thus far and are still reading on as if nothing powerful was said, it means you DO NOT GET IT FULLY) intellectual understanding IS NOT ENOUGH lol i am still at the intellectual understanding level btw... but seeing it this way makes so much sense! just working towards that experiential confirmation now After the experiential confirmation - liberation is something which is worked towards by letting go of attachment or taking things personally in each moment as you are merely the blank screen watching... and by returning to that knowing in each moment, you tend to care less and less about what experience is being displayed in-front of you and just learn to accept and love it all <3

awakening is when one has an experiential seeing/understanding of their true nature - which is pure awareness/consciousness enlightenment is the end of the seeking/suffering when one gets that there is noting to do / no goal / it all just IS . acceptance of what is in each "moment" is enlightenment awakening alone does not mean direct enlightenment... one has to work his/her way upto that level... this is being said very loosley here... but this is a quick in a nut-shell of a nut-shell version although some people upon their awakening find enlightenment a lot quicker vs others may even fall back to their regular self or may not even notice that an awakening / glimpse of the truth occurred

@Tausif Ahmed yes. You're right brother. It's all from the same source You can literally say it is same God which just has different names Allah, Brahaman, Christ, As per the differences in the ways of the religions... Well, understand it this way...There are more than one way back to your home. But the vast majority of the religions do not interpret what is being said (in their holy texts) and when the meaning is lost over the years... It ends up looking like the opposite of what it was supposed to be about. They are all looking at the finger which is pointing them to the Moon.. But they are not seeing the Moon, they are looking at the finger...

Click the video below, it will play at the spot I am talking about

@RendHeaven lol yup And also that really that's pretty much our world is I was just a little high from some weed and tried on my VR headset... It was just amazing. A bit more realistic cuz I was high & after 4-5 mins in the video , felt fully emerced So easy to explain to someone how reality is just by showing a VR headset 360 video... But not even close because 1080p Vs InfiniteP, Infinite pixels of sphere of reality... With intelligence formation zoomed in and zoomed out for eternity

Adyashanti said he has been thru this and wouldn't wish it upon his worst enemy... He clearly was a seeker It can happen to anyone Also, that's one of the things I often get afraid of as well... I also believe giving it Thought = giving it more strength It's good to be aware of it should you face it, then you'll know how you can try to surrender to it and escape it... But other than that, keep it in the back of your mind in the buried archives only to be retrieved if going thru it. It may happen to you, or it may not All depends on your spirituality level or life's experiences .

i have had this... its like you're blacking out outta nowhere and before you can ask many questions of it, your vision comes back like the way ego comes back to someone who has a quick glimpse of the absolute without knowing a dot about spirituality

@Artaemis Hmmmm. Noted. Thank you. Will try with a little boost from Mary Jane tonight.

Can someone post any good links to trip reports about this? or post their own brief encounter. In mood for some divine confirmation this morning. Thanks anyone

woah - that was amazing. thank you, @No-Thing

Beautiful.

exactly. this point here. which makes it difficult for me to see its magnificence, in all it's glory just like those who go to India / 3rd world country for the 1st time and are in awe of just a completely different way of living or those who come from a 3rd world country to a 1st world country and are just in awe looking at the buildings, cars, people

epic bless

I think I took a few steps higher today in my understanding of the NOT-TWO teaching. More specifically about the ONENESS... I never really paid attention to what the ONENESS was being referred to and finally got (more deeper than before) that it is the ONENESS of my experience. That the 5+ senses I have all combine in this empty container which I am and play out as a single one (not-two) experience - this includes the part "inside" of me which is my thoughts,feelings,sensations etc and thereby destroying the duality. Now I get that there is ONLY the NOW. But I have trouble with the understanding of the PAST and FUTURE which are said to be non-existent and illusory. It is also said that all of eternity already IS - in that, even though past/future are illusory, they are EXISTING somewhere is it kind of like this: my NOT-TWO experience moves along a set, already present and fixed "timeline" and if zoomed out, it can be seen as a video clip on VLC or whichever player which as the CURRENT time marker but you can drag and move around the timeline to view a certain part of the video. or a book, which is already written but I am on a certain page number right now... ? just trying to understand how it is both said past/future are an illusion yet at the same time it is said that past/future exist always from the God's/ONENESS level point of view.

so say using our definition of the concept of time, i clap my hands when the clock reads 4:01pm and at 4:02pm I say MEOW now what you said was everything is happening NOW and there is a movement and what is also said above by @tsuki is that past is just a fantasy which we call real if we were to pause that movement you refer to... then the clap at 4:01pm and the meow at 4:02pm - do they both occur simultaneously as everything happens NOW ? can we really not say one event relative to the other event occurs at different intervals in this movement ? you can see where I am coming from, as well as @CreamCat is the mistake we are making for this concept in the questions we are asking itself? is what Leo said here the key answer?

Try this variation. It's more closer to "reality" of infinte as it shows a world of forms within forms... this here is "form is formlessness" I think