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@Nahm do explain. breathing from stomach? like breathing deeply throughout the day?

@cetus56 you got all referential arts/pics/gifs ready to go eh

good thing i got some content from yesterday to bump this thing with during my high and mini-contemplation which followed, i discovered yesterday that each minor variations of our states are nothing but thought states even me - myself, what I think I am. the common notion of the "I" we think each of us are is just the THOUGHT OF IT i noticed this as i was staring in the mirror and i realized that i often do different voices/pranks in public.. like if i am at a drive-thru ordering something or jusst random person in the mall, asking a question, for shits/giggles. i just do an accept, different voice or whatever ( i know, lame, and pointless - but isn't eveything pointless ) so anyways. this was just so clear to me and then i thought, while i had this quick realization, that what exactly am I. like the default me... that's just the state/thoughts that i carry with me for the majority of the time, nothing more. its just collection of memory of thoughts which define the what the common notion of each of us is so during this, i felt and saw and understood that the "gap" between the thoughts is what I just am. i had a step-above realization to my previous, ever-changing notion/understanding of our eternal nature . it is the GAP of just BLANKNESS between each thoughts but normally. that GAP is overlooked either because we cannot stay in that NOWNESS very long before our thoughts come in i also think after a certain degree of understanding, it is better (or at least was yesterday) to have eyes open and just look into the blankness of your room while "focusing" on this thought i can tell if that sight of my room coupled with an end of the thought stream - i would just BE and that would have given me that glimpse... but i couldnt get my thought stream to end ... however the realiazation of what I think I am was very clear and understood to be just thoughts after thoughts and memory of thoughts all appearing in the NOW

How's sex on MDMA?

lol this was the case in many situations lol agreed. lead by example. have them approach you and ask you HOW!? i'm on the fence on this one yes. i can see that it does not matter. but a nudge of advice to others here n there to assist doesn't hurt @Privet yes i agree. and that's what i also felt as i wrote my topic post. the information just falls on deaf ears if they aren't ready to listen or grasp what is being said. i feel a good ol Leo video can do the trick but then again maybe i watch it from a place of understanding and thats why it clicks for me and rest of us vs the untrained mind might not get anything at all lol or might dismiss it all calling good ol' Leo bonkers as well

hmmmmm i just find it all so different than the regular stuff that whatever i may start off with will be faced with resistance lol

i think a lot of it might have to do with just the acceptance of the fact that YOU cannot change the way another's mind functions. trying to change it and failing can cause suffering so by skipping this step. you can just accept their suffering? and be there for when they need you to be or if they ask, then give the advise..

i agreee eckhart's was spontaneous.. i think depending on the teacher, and what their path was like... it is all reflected in their teaching also i think that a lof of the gurus refer to the simplicity of seeing thru the illusion but it's only really AFTER the fact that they say this i dont think they are deliousion, far from it lol - i dont even need to say this but when they say, or eckhart says IT IS HERE NOW! just NOW. simply NOW it's easy for them to see it as they are speaking from that place of NOW vs the rest of us could be a billion miles away from the NOW (billion mental illusory miles) but yeah. i agree with you. the work that needs to be put in is massive it's no easy task especially since it is a sub-task for most of us, unless we can , like Leo, work towards making a life purpose in which we end up working in this field of study and making a living to be able to continue to do this work and not worry about paying the bills my goal personally is somehow winnging the lotto (using mind/law of attraction/positive vibes to get that lol) and then after lotto, meditate away and enjoy and go deeper into it i am not after the money (or so i think now, hopefully i wont change after getting the money) but yeah. i am after the freedom which money will give me which allows me to do this work uninterrupted or worrying a guru would tell me here, i am just setting up this obstacle for myself to delay the work which needs to be done. but from my full time work job which i very much need if i need to survive on the month-month bills i got. i cant bring myself to full dive into it... and the next thing i know is i have lost my mind and cannot work anymore and then lose my house/job/car lotto > freedom > eventual enlightment LETS GET THAT MONEY SO IT CAN GET ME ENLIGHTMENT SO THEN I CAN LOOK BACK AS ALL AWAKENED SOULS DO AND GO LIKE WOOAH. WAS "I" A CRAZY LIL NUT OR WAAT?

i love the color shade of light and dark on his face. the light source/lamp is shining from his right side and does not light up the left side of his face nice effect. very artsy and thought out

@Preety_India kaash aap hamko real life mein dikhti... aur jaise Rupert Spira sahib kehtay hain... mein aapki beauty ko dekh kar fully us moment mein gum ho jata aur enlightenment paa leta... Jokes aside, nice post thank you.

sad to say the reason why i clicked this thread was to write this and i guess from what i have gathered thus far - love is universal. it is the experience of us feeling our very own self. when we absorb deeply into the what-is of the moment is when we exeperince love. this can happen during intimate moments, moments of experiencing nature / beauty etc.

Never mind

???? @Leo Gura

Very deep post by Robert The. Main essenes of it makes sense when looking at how enlighteed beings live. It's important to note when I say how "they live" it means how those now-"mostly empty" body/minds act/behave . And their bodies act out happiness as the higher self is seeing thru the illusion thru them. From that point of view, happiness can be substituted by 100%surrender and acceptance of what is. So for example an enlightened person getting raped for example would / can be fully ok/accepting of that experience. This is important due to: And That's why this here by @XYZ is very important when it comes to how that happiness, which Robert refferrs to in his post, needs to be had at this sort of level to be fully liberated . So you work toward that and that accepting of what is only can happen when we stop taking things personaly and slowly letgo until the last thing to leggo of is "I" which somehow has to be seen thru.

@WindInTheLeaf holy shit Thanks! That was very helpful! The first line about "what if this is that, waking up thinking I'm awake but I'm actually dreaming There is no way to know! Unless one wakes up that is... Lol So I guess this yet again puts it all in perspective That if u put the dream and reality on the same filmroll , our little daily awakenings occur on the different frames on that filmroll... All on the same plane of reality So the real awakening is outside of that filmroll reality. Wow.thats why it's unlike anything else we have or can possibly imagine All of what can be experienced , all the infinite absolute experiences are all on that film roll So when "we" wake up and "see" from the place-less place . Place where there is "non-experience" since all of what can we experienced is on that filmroll, the filmroll is alive yet aware of each Experiences in it. When enlightenment occurs we "see" from meta-filmroll That's they reason I suppose why it is said that it cannot be explained in any way possible since it's outside the realm of experience Oh but it blows my mind that it's all one! Woah God bless God is the greatest!

@WindInTheLeaf exactly I know reality itself is groundless I am referring to the process/each of our experience Let Waking State be represented by ∆ Let our nightly dreams be represented by ßn N being the variable since each of those dreams vary in story/setting etc So this is how our experience goes ∆ - ß1 - ∆ - ß2 - ∆ - ß3 - ∆ ... So on. You see the recurring ∆ That's what I am referring to when I say our "grounded state" where we "launch" into the various ßn experiences... The substance and lived experience of both ∆ and ßn are the same Yet ∆ is a recurring experience with a seeming continuity So all im asking is that the ∆, although same in all aspects as ßn, somehow a higher order or somehow differentiated than our dreams as per our experience that I mentioned above.

Hmmm Yes. Somehow if I look back upon any dream I have had (after waking up from the dream) I can relate to that to an extent Like after the fact, it was like I had that entire experience occur to "me"

@starsofclay can you do it with a good success rate? Induce lucid dreams?

Yes I'm not sure this also applies to lower level of truths I have felt this feeling in the body about knowing and loving that truth <3

All the same I get that Labeling it doesn't change I'm rather inquiring into the mechanism of how it goes from one state to another And different order of reality so to speak

Yes but initiated from a "grounded dream" i.e. the current waking state ???

All experience is "real" That's why I know there is 0 difference between my current waking state and a dream state (while I am living in them) It's only after waking up from a dream can you look back and go like Woah, that was a dream What I was just asking that why/what is it that I keep "returning" to this current waking state after waking up from my nightly dreams... I think leo may have referred to this calling it a higher level or order of reality/dream... Please can someone shed light on it

how may sex feel for enlightenmed beings? osho must have been a champ.. or if he went slowmo like his talks, that's jazzy too dunno who else... lawl "with the force of the universe...! "

WORTH IT!!!!

Very nice