charlie cho

Many people have different values. As for me, I don't value money or fame as much as anybody else does. Depending on the person's consciousness, his value will be more less materialistic. In theory, to have a sustained value system, it has to be consistent and infinite, so it seems to me nothing is more valuable than any service or product that supports values that are high consciousness. And I cannot see anything more fragile and finite than superficial materialistic values, so it feels that marketing strategy would lose whichever the period you are living in. Even if I were to live in 2000 B.C., where people were living mainly in Stage Red or Blue mindset, I think it's the same losing strategy to stoop down to their level to offer them the survivalistic value. Does it not ring true to you about what I said? Is it worth it to stoop down oneself to appeal to people with low consciousness? What is value in marketing? I am in no way saying food companies, hotels, real estate companies for residents have low consciousness. I'm just saying when these food, hotels, real estate companies are driven by low consciousness, isn't there a problem

the farther you are from reality, the weaker your understanding of the world will be. The weaker your understanding of the world, the more confusion you will have of the future. The more confusion you have for the future, the lesser vision you will have and it will be fragile. When there is a fragile vision, nothing is achieved. More closer you are to reality, the stronger your understanding of the world will be. The more clarity you have of the future, your vision of the future is more clear and concrete. The more clarity you have of the future, by more consistent means you will retain that vision in your heart. The more clear you are of the future, the more it is likely that vision will be achieved. The forceful you are unto the world, the farther you are from reality. More you are going with the flow with reality, the closer you are with reality. Going against the stream of the universe is the very definition of forcefulness. Hope this is a good explanation

I don't know why you posted three on your own when no one is answering. Anyways. If you would like to listen to my word, take it with a grain of salt. I am by no means perfect or enlightened as Buddha Okay here it is. Realize that this period of struggle, too, is your road to enlightenment. Even if you were to live completely selfishly and be an attention whore until you die, that is also considered to be the path to enlightenment. Why? Because there is no such thing as a wrong direction in life. People causing wars, murdering, raping and pillaging each other is all part of the one Tao 道。Simply, it is that the Tao is acting on all that like a theatre play, but in reality, in essence it is not evil nor good. People are disillusioned by the need for power that they start wars in selfish ways, but this is just the Great Tao being disillusioned. God is being disillusioned, willingly. In fact, that illusion had never existed really. So there was never an illusion in the first place. When people are acting in selfish confused ways, they are simply imagining things. Understand, however, that that imagination does not exist and to God, it is totally irrelevant and needs no care in the world what those imaginations are because it never existed in the first place. I would advise you to simply do what your heart feels is right and good. We are all in different situations and different things will be good for different people. That is why following your heart is always the best thing to do. One warning is this, do not follow the crowd, the mob, or society's models of reality. That's all. Second warning is, don't be corrupt. And corruption starts with the mind. Third, don't ignore your talents. God has put talents in you for a reason. Don't ignore it completely. Use it in some sort of way. Fourth, don't use this world like an Indian rail station. Don't put out trash on the floor and go off to your trip away. Make the station a little more flagrant, a little more pretty, a little more fun so that the people who will come to this same place will enjoy and realize the people that came before them were beautiful people, that they should do the same thing as them.

Is value core values? Eben Pagan says if you want to make money, you should not care about money, but value. I watched one marketing video from Steve Jobs and he said marketing is all about values, not what technology or great product Apple has. So I thought maybe Value means, core values? What the hell does value mean? Let's say the core value for Apple would have been "people with passion will make great products." Nike would be "Honoring great athletes" A famous church like Joel Olsteen's church would be "Doing the highest service for God" or whatever his values are. So it seems people are not attracted to superficial values, like great technology, great screen displays, fast computers, courses that make you money fast. It seems that you have to sell not what is materialistic, but what is emotional, isn't it so? Is that what Eben Pagan is trying to say? Please help me.

It's not necessarily a book, but watch the course from David De Angelo about "On Being a Man". His material is really mature especially against the PUAs, and also does not have any superiority complexes. He teaches everything that's got to do with being a true man. It's not some macho bullshit.

Did you know Krishna and Muhammad were warlords in their respect? I know Moses, Jesus weren't. Buddha and Mahavira did not go to war while they were enlightened, but they were warriors before they were realized. I've been contemplating about war, competition, and conflict a lot lately, mostly because I'm gonna work in the police soon and I feel it's most compatible with me. In some sense war is necessary don't you think? To flat out say it's totally unnatural to be in conflict would be a contradiction, no? For example, there is this simple duality where if something needs to be created, something needs to be destroyed. Or, I can take an example of Michael Angelo of him saying that he wasn't carving the marble to make a stone statue, he was simply freeing the angel that was in the stone by carving it. Gardeners are like warriors because they cut trees to create art. Michael Angelo carved marbles to create statues. Rock tumblers tumble rocks in water to create shiny stones. Fire creates delicious food. Surgeons are in battle with illnesses. The Guru is in battle with the devil inside his disciple's spirit. I can go on and on. You know the saying about Zen masters that they are killers, not saviors of the self.

@StarStruck I would say nice guys and pick up artists are similar in the respect that they are both extremes. They are both hypocrites in some sense. Nice guys are hypocritical that they are "Nice" but at the same time try to take advantage of women for sex. They are usually the ones who justify themselves as being "Nice" being angry they did not get sex. Pick up artists are hypocritical in that they were those "Nice Guys" in the past, or at least they have some deep trauma that hurt their ego like those "Nice" folks, so they went to the opposite end to be destructive and hurt other "Nice" people. All in all, they are both piece of shits. I would say the normal people are in the middle of these two extremes. They don't do pick up artists too hard like the gurus, nor do they call themselves "Nice" people. Anybody who has a remote sense of intelligence know that unless you are some Buddha Jesus type of person, you don't immediately categorize yourself as "nice." There is no nothing more non sensical than that. Even the Buddha avoided saying that he was a "Nice" guy. Jesus would never be so arrogant to call himself "I'm a nice guy." It's an arrogant statement to call yourself "Nice." It's a contradiction in terms when a "Nice guys" calls himself a "Nice guy," you understand what I mean

Have you read the 48 laws of power from Robert Greene? I read it because not that I want to manipulate others, but I just want to be super aware that these politickings exist, and be wary of it, and if possible, use it for my advantage in my purpose. How do you think the power of consciousness relates to people playing with politics? I mean, how do you suppose a man like Lao Tzu going to war with Niccolo Machiavelli? Both were not generals, but at most advisors of the state. Or suppose, OSHO and Bill Gates fighting politically in a conflict?

just as much there is no difference between a sight of a dead body and a beautiful art of Leonardo Da Vinci, there is no difference between you going in the hot bath water and feeling good and being shot by a gun in your leg. Sure you would rather not see a dead carcass in front of you, but still, sight is sight. Forensic scientists do this everyday and this is what makes them serves society in an honorable way. But to forensic scientists, for example, their sight of bugs swarming inside a human body and the stench the human body makes is actually a good. First of all, without the stench bugs and insects do not come. Insects and worms serves two benefits to our Earth. Because they are hungry for rotten food, they eat all of them and procreate inside the body. As much insects are living in the body, it keeps eating until the body is completely destroyed and disappear. Second benefit is that the types of insects and their growth stage demonstrates the time and period of the carcass dead, so the detectives can estimate the time to see in what area the criminal may be at. In other words, to the detective or the forensic scientist, sure the stench is displeasing, but they see the dead body as their friend. A friend that will teach them where the criminal bastard is. I'm serious that's how they see it. So to them, it's a pleasure that they can serve society in that way, even so it would be displeasurable to the masses. Another example would be stretching your legs in yoga. Yes, it is painful. It is good that you do not go overboard with this. But a certain tension to loosen up your body is extremely beneficial for your health. But you must understand the pain will be there when you decide to become healthier. The pain is necessary and should be embraced. Many yoga practitioners rather love that pain because they know their muscles are loosening. They know this pain will serve to not only make them better at yoga, but also be healthy in daily life. Same with Kobe Bryant playing basketball. It's painful when he wakes up and goes on a bike ride in London before the Olympic basketball game, but he knows that frustrating bike ride will eventually translate to him becoming a better basketball player. Therefore, he feels the bike ride to be rather pleasurable than painful. Most people will find it painful. Pain and Pleasure is subjective. Yes, the body may feel pain. But the body will feel pain when it gets massaged. But I personally love that pain and feel pleasure from it. Same with women who likes feeling pain when having sex

@flowboy right. If the universe puts us in a deserted island, we will not be able to think about "Talent". We will have to live through our instincts.

I've read this quote from one wise mystic. "In what world do you think the heavens will be touched by your cunning head? You live by the head, you do things by the head, you talk by the head like a serpent. The heavens do not want your serpent-like demeanor. Live with the heart. Only with a warm heart will you be able to reach the heavens. The heavens open up to your warm heart. The heavens are touched by your totality and warmth. The cold cunning mind will never be able to touch the heavens." Recently, I've been conflicted between the two ideas whether I should work according to my talents or passions. God and consciousness had always been the highest value for me. I realized from this quote that if I were to live my life for Truth, I would have to live by the heart, and if necessary abandon my talents in order to follow my heart. With a cold calculating mind, even with enough talent, I will not be able to reach the heavens. Who wouldn't like to touch God's heart with their work? With their lives?

I don't know much about the pareto's principle. I don't follow much principles or theories unless I have seen them in my practical life. Simply put, we can understand the pareto principle in terms of meditation and spirituality too right? Pareto's principle seems to be explaining the law that not everything is symmetrical. It's like the differences between the Zen and the European gardens Zen Gardens present their bushes, trees, and flowers in a disproportionate pattern, but in a way there is a balance, while European gardens have all their objects parallel, same, equal, and symmetrical, which makes their gardens, surprisingly, unbalanced to the eye. Playing the guitar, I realize people do not care about right standard tuning. People need disproportionate tuning for the guitar, piano strings in order to not feel uncomfortable when hearing the chords. Human bodies are disproportionate in nature. People who have crooked faces might look more attractive than symmetrical faces. A man in a bar who stands straight up like a soldier will appear to be straight, but look very unbalanced and weird to the people watching him. I can go on and on. my example; If there is big (80% in area per squared) there is small (20% in area per squared) If there is sharpness (80% degrees of slim width), there is bluntness (20% degrees of its wide width) If there is the strong (80% muscle mass), there is the weak (20% muscle mass) If there are is a high IQ number (80% in the number of IQs), there is a low IQ number (20% number of IQs) If there is a many (80%), there is a few(20%) If there is light (80% existence of light) there is darkness (20% existence of light) If there is an angel (80% existence of goodness) there is the devil (20% existence of the good) I don't know. To me, Pareto Principle accentuates the fact of the VITAL FEW and the UNIMPORTANT MANY. In other words, life is never equal, fair, or symmetrical, but that is in a way fair in a metaphysical sense. How do you guys measure the pareto principle in your life? I think, to deny the pareto principle is to say existence is fundamentally equal, which is the most absurd thing to say if one has a brain. - Life is unfair but that is good. Unfairness seems to be the law. And I'd rather live with the stream not against it. And that is good. Living with unfairness, therefore, is good

@K VIL2 I think an element of mercy is important in whatever toxic relationship. Any sense of justice is deeply rooted in the idea for revenge for what the other person has done to us. Ancient Greeks used to discuss about justice, but what I think they got wrong is that the ideal for justice inevitably make people hold an attitude of hate towards the perpetrators. People act unlovingly because they have never been loved, and if we continue to hate on those people again and again, we only give them more reasons to hate us more. We can only diel down their hatred when we show mercy. And that mercy need not be something where we never be harsh. True mercy is about being objective, being results oriented. If in order to change the other, we have to be cruel, then we should be cruel. And I think the idea "people never change" is too defeatist. Never say never. It's dangerous to go to such extremes, no? Changing is hard, though, but to say people never change is hypocritical.

I've been looking for good, honest people around my life and I have never found one in my life except online. Made three genuinely nice friends from online. I've been feeling like the naked Diogenes with a lamp, walking around grumpy around the village saying, "I'm here to find an honest man!" but not having to succeed in doing so, unfortunately. I'm tired of this fucking search But I'd like to know how to generate a mastermind, a team, an organization if I can if I were to create a business. I don't know. I just want a group of friends who have a common cause or a goal they are trying to achieve so we can help each other out and maybe create something great either collectively or individually, in which this case it would be called a mastermind. Like RSD pick up, or Dan Kennedy's marketing course, Eben Pagan's productivity course, or Leo's book list or life purpose course, anyone of you found a course that teaches team building to an extensive level? Any recommendations?

Lao Tzu said, The scholar tries to understand the unknowable. The administrator tries to administrate the uncontrollable. The public speaker tries to explain the inexplicable. The best course for physical and mental health is to know when to discard, eliminate, and stop your desire to understand the unknowable. But if he decides to keep on, by the Law of Tao he will inevitably be destroyed. - Chuang Tzu's parables -

@Leo Gura Lol. Eben is great. Love him. He handles the practical side awesome

I value goodness just before compassion/love, which is my most top value, after introspecting myself. And my definition of goodness is based on both being just but also making me and the world richer spiritually, physically, and financially: this includes animals and material things. However recently, I watched a video Krishnamurti defining what true justice is and it really spoke to me. He was implying the very pursuing of justice needs three things which is compassion, love, and mercy, other wise justice does not exist. My interpretation of his sayings was one should not care of justice or fairness because the world isn't fair or just from the idle beginning. One should rather focus on love and mercy. The word mercy truly spoke out to me. I am not here to say words will ever convey the true Goodness of the universe. It never will. The word is never the thing. The finger is pointing to the moon, but it is not the thing we should focus on. Anyway, I feel Krishnamurti is saying the state of enlightenment has a quality of mercy, which translates to as the ultimate state of justice. Watching the film again, I see he did not completely deny the existence of justice. He was simply saying the very idea of justice won't do very much in actualizing it, unless we are able to express the quality of togetherness, mercy, and love. I am in a bit of a turmoil right now, because I'm considering to change my priorities in my values. Maybe justice should be replaced in my list. Maybe I should completely eradicate the idea and replace it with the virtue of mercy since I already have the value of love/compassion in the top of my list. What you think of the virtue of justice? Is it overrated? Is there a cynicism in it? Or do you feel justice really needs to be considered fairly in our lives.

@Leo Gura right, as there is no difference between the body and the mind. It's literally one.

Maybe, rather than looking at life purpose as a spiritual process, I think we should also consider the very deep rooted aspect of life purpose. As our spirituality is deeply related to our physical bodies, to deny our physical talents would be stupid, I think. Brain capacity, intelligence, physical attributes define your talents. We are all one and the same, but at the same time, we do have different forms of physical expression. Life purpose is about our expression of our physicality. This does not mean physical exercise. In fact, intelligence in music, mathematics, physicality is defined by how our brain is structured. This is my insight on life purpose

Don't do death penalties. Don't put them in prison so they won't have a social life. Make them do hard labor. Their punishment will be to do immense service to society, (forcibly) Death penalties and prison time only destroys them. Their hard labor will create a new them. Simply put jail guards with guns around them to ensure they don't do anything bad. Labor is one of the best forms of transformation. Not therapy. Not personal development. Not spiritual enlightenment. For these criminals, LABOR is the best medicine. Not only does it help them, but it will help our society Invest money on having them to hard labor effectively. Just putting them in jail and stew in their filth not only is a waste of money, but they won't learn anything about love and goodness through that. Their labor will save us money. We just need to invest in some money in the beginning that's all. The results will come Just like the Nazis made the Jewish do hard labor. Learn how the Nazis did it and emulate it. (Not a knock on Jewish people, but we can all learn from out enemies)

dude, why do you not mention him. Bro, you will look like a fucking boss. BTW, Leo isn't the guy who invented the model, it was claire graves. So no worries. Just credit other sources justly. It will only make you look cool. Only uncool people don't credit others.

Maybe I was naive. Being in my early 20s, Direct confrontation, brawl fighting, debates, war between countries, hostile word exchanges, business competition, competition of competency were the only matters that concerned me in terms of warfare and conflict. I knew political warfare existed in society, but I had always underestimated the scale that it has the potential to destroy a person's life if he or she is not careful in understanding this. When he does not acknowledge such dynamics exists in the first place, he is entirely deluding himself of reality. We don't want to ignore reality. I recommend reading this book. Also, read Machiavelli's The Prince. Read Sun Tzu's Art of War since politics is basically about warfare and competition. Read the Analects from Confucius is you want to know the cunning ways to devise yourself to have a powerful reputation amongst others. Much of the hostilities we face when we are aiming for financial freedom, health, and relationships, we must understand how others ujustly may take advantage of you politically. Being a pacifist in the face of wolves is the source of endless tragedy... Learn about power dynamics if you don't want tragedy in the world.

What do you think? Will the content of knowledge we bring be corrupted if the "HOW" and the "philosophy of science" is inept? Maybe it isn't really about "what" you know, but "how" you know it. My interest is not in what most scientists are right now. My interest lies simply on what makes a great scientist. I mean Tesla Einstein level scientist. How much did they devote their time on the philosophy of science as well as the "what" of science, the content? Watching a lot of books about Einstein, David Bohm's philosophy, some Chemistry journals, Thomas Kuhn, Leo's videos, Forensic Science text books, Dr. Henry Lee's Cracking Cases (an account of a Chinese American Detective of all his homicide cases), Feynman's biographies and his lectures.... I have found one thing in common. Their respect for the philosophy of science is immense. Mostly, they got the inspiration to learn about the "How" of science from a very young age. It was so deeply seeped into their souls that they did not need to necessarily read a book about "philosophy of science" to do excel in the field. My question still remains however, should we first understand the "how" of science before seeping into the "what" of science alas we gain corrupted knowledge? I don't want corrupted knowledge. I've seen the dangers of it in my life in other fields. What do you guys think?

I'm listening to Brian Tracy's "No Excuses" and it's extremely motivational. I trust Brian Tracy. Do you guys have any books, audiobooks motivational from great teachers? I don't like motivational speakers if you know what I mean.

a fortune is like a woman. You have to beat it to death to let it come to you. Fortune goes rather to the impetuous men than to the idle.