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Good point. But I let words in real life situations, not only in texts, take control of my life and effect my state of mind too. So what's the difference between people's real life interaction "words" and the "texts" that are written online? The only difference is that I don't get so emotional in real life situations because I know what they mean easily and read their minds so much easier, but I get so emotional on texts maybe because I don't understand what they mean exactly and it angers me that I don't. That is weird, but I don't see any difference between spoken words and texts. Forgive me if I'm too blunt but that this is quite true for me.
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i started this course when I was 17. I realize now this was kind of a mistake lol. at age 22 right now. Takes some time to get used to the course. the benefits come out of this course after some experience, not right away surprisingly
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charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Windappreciator I think many of my best mentors had been INFJs. They were highly theoretical and wasn't very practical in a way haha, but they were highly proficient in advising others how to be practical hahahaha, when they themselves weren't achieving them. Like Phil Jackson was never a good basketball player. But how damned good he was with coaching. Like a monster. People don't understand the genius of him. People think Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant were alphas. I would say they dominated that perceived alpha style, but behind the scenes Phil understood what true leadership was. -
My father was a sensory type. Prove it before you tell me. Always have to be proved to a fault. He's a business CEO for a cement company. I'm 21 years old and he always had his ideals and values imposed upon me. I've studied personality types and I've seen that Confucius was an ISTJ type. I realized right there and then why Confucius was so Earth based, not Heavens based in his teachings. He would never talk about death. I had many problems with STJ types in my life. I'm an ENTJ, and ESTJs tend to go for social status to impose their own right and wrong, morality, and sense of duty. They had no sense of malleability or desire to revolutionize anything. They were structure based for the sake of it, not for the sake of a higher dream or purpose. I've heard the difference between ESTJ and ENTJ types is that ESTJs make great managers while ENTJs make great entrepreneurs. This lack of malleability from ESTJs disturbs me and their constant routine based just for the sake of it makes me want to scream. How do we deal with sensory types, especially if it is a parent? If it is a coworker? I go along with NFPs, NTPs (emotionally, they piss me off, but whatever, they're good coworkers), NFJs, or NTJ types (INTJs or ENTJs can be scary even for me sometimes, and it's a bit difficult to work with, but since effectiveness is my goal, I like them a bit) I don't try to personally attack anyone in the STJ category. Please, I do see the value of STJs, STPs in society. They make good government workers, beaurachratic entity workers.... etc. We need them no doubt. I simply wanted to ask my question.
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it still takes time for my mind to process this Why do I find it hard to understand this?
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@hamedsf quite insulting that a girl will think of me as an axe murderer. A crazy person? yes, but an axe murderer. Very insulting.
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@hamedsf what do you think, maybe lying ain't a bad thing. Indirectness isn't a bad thing. I am recently trying to incorporate indirectness and lying in my arsenal of communication, because I've found life ain't all about directness. But it seems that at least one has to be authentic to the other person, lest one must not be too direct, no matter what the situation. Show it through a look or an authentic gesture of how you really think of that person, not by simply cutting the communication off. Would you agree there are some men who are like women? They are insecure about their friendship with the guy, so they do some feminine bullshit. And about women being insecure about men. Really? The fuck. So I've made mistakes with women like this so many times. I've experienced this so many times. They would answer fast but they would leave me on read. Really? I've got so fed up at the end that recently I've kind of lashed out at the last girl I've been texting because I thought she was so wishy washy about me. I was so fed up I told her "Is this how you treat your friends? Being wishy washy?" or something to that effect. Told her to tell me to "fuck off" if she doesn't want me to talk to her, and she wouldn't say it. She just wouldn't tell me to "fuck off" or "go away", which made me drive up the wall. Adding to this, if it's a bit funny haha, I told her that maybe that's why all her friends are clowns because she makes 1000s of friends, but have no depth in them. Level 0 in friendship building hahahaa. (I know it's a bit cruel but it's funny) Am I the only person that are able to tell people "fuck off" ? Lol.
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@hamedsf because they don't need me.... hmmm. That's a very healthy way to make or break off friendship with people But what do you think. I'm a person who will downright tell them to their face directly what I think of them. Whether I value what they do or not. I just can't conceive of people who will not directly tell me what they think of me because I tend mostly not to do that. I just need a confirmation about this.
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charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I get your gist and I understand it well. But what do you mean by sensors are teaching me to deal with lower Fi? What does my introverted feeling got to do with sensors? What do you mean that sensors are teaching me to deal with stupid people? Are you implying sensors are somewhat more stupid than intuitive? hmmmm....... maybe? .... I have no idea. It's hard to see myself say such a thing that far. Although it's quite minute, I do like to believe there has to be some very intelligent sensor types. However, it is true for all the ones that I admired for their intelligence, they were 90% intuitive types. Other 10% were sports players that I admired most. Michael Jordan and Kobe allen iverson were ISTPs and ISFP I agree. I cannot tolerate lethargic stupidity and malicious behavior. I can be very grandeur even for people who at least attempt to become competent in what they do, or unwise people who attempts to be wise, but anyone who doesn't even try, they are like garbage in my eyes because they don't even try. Yet, I see how Lao Tzu would be very disappointed with me of thinking that and I've been trying to solve this judgmental attitude for some while, for at least 4 years, but I still find it hard. the Sensory types seem to be one of my last straws. It really is. -
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@The0Self the only sensory types i get along with maybe..... esfps esfps they can be weird and obnoxious. But if they just have their shit together i enjoy them and love them too. For example, dmitri fyodorovich in brothers karamazov was one esfp. Zack, the character thats written below in my description, he was an esfp. Esfp what i do like about them is that they dont work for ambition with their sensory. They use their sensory type for peoples emotional needs not material needs. And sensory types can absolutely help people emotionally for sure. But with other things. When sensory types try to work on something an achievement or goal, they literally have no intuition and takes things as face value... reading between the lines seem fake to them. Their interpretation of how reading between the lines is fake makes me .... not so happy. Im sure mature sensory types are not this way. And im sure even mature intuitive types will value sensory information too.... but still ..... its hard to be with them -
charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@diamondpenguin My all time best friend was an ENFJ. The profile pic of mine is an emperor is an ENFJ, we mostly believe. INFJ seems to be the introverted one. ENFJs make a different taste of leader than an ENTJ. While ENTJs are focused on efficiency and creativity and execution, ENFJs are focused on harmony, self-expression, and inspiration from their subordinates, in which ENTJs lack. ENTJs find it hard to be liked as much as ENFJs. My friend would always outshine me in school because even though many knew I was much smarter and efficient and a good team builder, they gravitated and wanted to be with my ENFJ friend because he was indeed truly nice, comfortable, loveable, and awe-inspiring, in which I lacked apparently. The emperor, Liu Bei, on my profile pic was an ENFJ. His greatest rivalry was an ENTJ, Cao Cao. Cao Cao was the only one to recognize the heroism that Liu Bei had even when he was a struggling general holding a few thousand troops. "There are only two heroes in this realm of China, and it is you and I,' he said. Liu Bei was so great at inspiring and making people love him that even if he wasn't as efficient or talented as Cao Cao, his talent of inspiring and caring for others had him attract great talents to work for him. Cao Cao never had the talent under his wing as good as Liu Bei. INFJs seem to be more like Gandalf. The wise good man behind the scenes who enjoys mentoring the hero to go on the adventure. I think they make tremendous mentors, in my view. INFP, ENFPs make great enlightened masters. But INFJs are a bit different that they have a judging function which means they have a controlling mind, subtlety. So they are the ultimate quiet entrepreneur who would never show himself on the stage, like never... they will always be deferring even to their disciples. Gandalf always defers to Aragorn's apparent recklessness sometimes. INFJs are like Phil Jackson types. Phil Jackson has a way of being quiet, never showing any force at all, but their force is apparent in a way that it runs deep. Michael Jordan and Kobe were alphas no doubt, but Phil Jackson in some way controlled those two players to be the best they can be. I have no doubt in my mind if it wasn't for Phil Jackson, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan would not have existed. Hence, I speak of INFJs as subtly great leaders without ever being perceived as leaders at all, and they don't care to be, which is a very admirable trait, in which ENTJs or ESTJs do not have. ENTJs and ESTJs fall into the trap of wanting to assert their dominance and power to others, which is often something that will come back and bite them if they become arrogant and greedy. Subtle form of power, whether it is for good or for greed, is always more powerful, if you know what I mean, and INFJs or INTJs are masters at this. INTJs mirror the ENTJs INFJs mirror the ENFJs. INTJs and ENTJs focus on effectiveness and productivity in their vision. INFJs and ENFJs are more people oriented and want to make people emotionally happy. They are great at this. INTJs and INFJs will do each of those two subtly and behind the scenes. -
charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@diamondpenguin sorry, in what way have I answered your question? -
charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Carl-Richard I know it's more like a cognitive reframing bias, but I guess. One has to admit that even stagnant malleability can be a stagnant behavior in itself. -
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@Leo Gura I am indebted to you, sire. -
charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Carl-Richard Genius -
Muhammad, Mahavira, Krishna, Gautama Buddha are or at least were great warriors. They were either in great warrior tribes or led wars upon wars against other factions for the sake of God. I once heard OSHO speaking fondly of warriors and speaking offensively at Rabbis. He said Rabbis are so inexperienced in war and are intrenched with knowledge and education that they do not know the realities of life, so they are more interested in violence, hence they are the most violent. He continued to say the Buddha understood the realities of violence, so he was able to transcend it unlike the Rabbis constantly preaching non-violence. The concept of war and enlightenment had intrigued me since day one even before my recent frequent study of war and politics. It always seemed to me that people who weren't proficient in conflict and war or were inexperienced were ironically most violent and aggressive, when others were more peaceful and down to earth.
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@Focus Shift well, 99% of people die still being attached to sex. another 1% are lucky enough to not have any attachments to it. I guess they are the enlightened ones. What truly shocked me to the roots was when I was 15 years old, I saw my grandfather thirsting for sex from his maid at age 88 while he was dying. He was always the alpha, the feared one in my family, but to see him so weak and desperate while he was dying shocked me. It turned out that his alpha personality was a sham. That picture in my mind drove me to really take action on my own sexual desires. I think it's more about going deep into sex. It is a lie to say these enlightened masters had no deep understanding about sex. They were totally aware of it and understood all the nooks and crannies of it. We must do the same in order to be conscious beings. At least, that is what I do. I try to understand and go deep into sex.
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charlie cho replied to charlie cho's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
that last sentence had inspired me Purple man. Really, that sentence illustrates the concern I had about people learning spirituality without understanding the realities of violence. It is my understanding that the world is composed of two parts. Creation and destruction. And most often the black, the yin, the downtrodden, the darkness, the evil, the women, the destruction, the shadow, the latter part of anything is always misunderstood. I guess that's how the world wants it to be. The world always wants the shadow to be unknowable, the woman to be misunderstood. But it remains a fact that both yin and yang have to be integrated if one wants a holistic understanding. -
"Have you guys ever been around someone who have a lot of status but as soon as they need to show you their status, they look chode? ... As soon as you see that he needs it (status), they handed their power away!" - Owen Cook This was the problem I had about people stressing on status and power attracting women. It pissed me off people focused solely on this subject without looking at the deep implication of it. Yes, perceived status may impact men isolating other men, and to some degree have women do that too. But with a woman with a trained eye will see through a man trying to gain power through perceived power. It's like we think hollywood actors are the most powerful, but in reality, harvey weinstein was dominating the producing stream. I feel the need to stress... that we think Donald Trump, presidents of the united states, Chairman Mao, Microsoft, Google, Elon Musk look like they are the most powerful, but in reality, there is one other that is truly dominating the world, just like how Harvey Weinstein dominated Hollywood actresses. What power would this be?
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I originally posted a question about how social status attracts females. But are we going to deny there is not some kind of powerlessness to a man striving for power? You can be famous and be a good person, yet be low status. You can be not famous but have influence over another any time any where. That is social status and power. Isnt there a kind of power a person has when he doesnt feel the need to get power? Of course, the majority will be attracted to the social power, but isnt there a stronger magnetic attraction to a person like this who doesnt feel the need to control the whole world? Wouldnt this specifically attract certain persons more intimately and more powerfully as opposed to the majority? I know this can be interpreted as very much philosophical, yet i have to talk about this with you. I know it has been discussed, but this topic has still been on my mind. I guess its like comparing a king to a dostoevsky. Majority loves kings but they fall out of love quickly after another king emerges. But people do love the dostoevksy like glue.
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I never had a problem with gaining social status. I had experienced many times however when girls would reject me even when I was the most popular person in a group. So, as I was interested more in meditation, I became ignorant of politicking or gaining social status within any group. I am a naturally extraverted person, so it was doubly hard for me to do this, but I did. Are women attracted to social status? social political power? Doesn't it all melt away if you have a very attractive sexuality in you? for example, you can have big political power in your social group, but if you're just plain insecure about your sexuality, I don't see why women wouldn't be repulsed. I ask this because upon watching David De's and Owen Cook's content, he talks about status, but it confuses me, what they really means by this. Sometimes, I feel like they are talking about being a mature man. Other times I feel what they are talking about is just simply being popular within a group. You know, there are certain men who are very attractive, but are not necessarily the most popular. I was actually going for that as I was in my journey of meditation. But sometimes, I feel regret, whether I have done the right thing or not in regards to social status.
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Krishnamurti said something profound. Many times we have a narcissist in our lives is because we are in some way dependent on them. Krishnamurti says life does not put us in situations where we can "completely" be independent socially, politically, physically. But he said psychological, spiritual freedom is absolute. One has to be independent psychologically. One has to depend on the postman, the supermarket to operate well, but we should never let the annoying milkman, postman, our family member ever penetrate into our psychological freedom. So he says, if we are not financially free, we must put up with our bosses if we have no other option, put up with a narcissistic relative, but draw the line between them and your psychological freedom. They can put you in jail, beat you, destroy you, but your heart will remain yours, and that is what gives you power over them. I don't see any that is more profound and deeper than this method to deal with narcissist you are with
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if that's the meaning of black pill. You must come to korea. Girls and guys are all into black pill. Heck guys are doing make up. Heck guys want to do plastic surgery let alone just women. #1 plastic surgery country in the world. Very proud to be number one in that category as a Korean.
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@Danioover9000 finally some guy with sense is answering! hmmm what you say all do makes sense........
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reply what you think about what he says. About the latter part of the video