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I think that's the million dollar question...the funny thing is only you can only answer it.. because why would you believe a dream character...
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1 hour ago, justfortoday said:Yep. Wait until you realize that it is yourself that is replying to you on this thread.
We’re all you.
@justfortoday Hm still not consciouss if they are other POVs or not .
If I as God live one dream at a time that means I'm just taking to myself right now.
Damn still not awake.
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2 hours ago, tuckerwphotography said:- Every single thing that this Dream character called Tucker experiences is exactly what wants to be experienced. Everything. Every thought, every sensation, every emotion, every moment. It’s all happening for no other reason than to be experienced. To experience is to Love.
For no other reason that because of Love.
Each second of Tucker's dream was an " inevitable" of love
Your whole life was perfect and love. Ta-da!
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It's impossible to get more accurate than this. It was just an idea.
Holy shit!
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I just woke up from a dream. I usually don't give much attention to dreams but thought to share this one since it was pretty insightful.
In the dream I was walking by and suddenly an attractive girl walked pass through me. In that instant I thought to approach her but then I didn't. And immediately afterwards I said this phrase:
- "Actually, this is me just being biased towards one form or another. -Me looking at a plastic wrap on the street, 'If I would be *truthful in life, I should give the same importance or unimportance to this plastic wrap (a certain form that is appearing) than to that women (another certain form that appeared). It's just another form".
Note: * This word (truthful) I didn't said it in the dream, but it was like an "attitude" the character of the dream was having that was alluring to truth. Yet the word truth or spirituality or Non-duality wasn't really used at all.
Then i was walking with my father and a guy appeared on our back and start Fighting us. He was much younger and he started wrestling my father and was hurting her. I remember I joined the fight and I end up beating this guy to death to save my father from dying. At the end I thought "what a mess/disaster".
But then I woke up from the dream and I realized it the angustia i felt when the guy was attacking my father was totally an illusion since the difference between my father and the guy who attacked us was just held in my imagination, not in the dream. The dream was just One substance of mind with several forms in it! My father never really "happened". Nor a an attacker..nor a fight!
And of course I realized too how true the character was about the plastic wrap vs women insight. Damn! If only THIS world would be just like that! ?? A dumb dream what I will soon wake up from it ??
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1 hour ago, LfcCharlie4 said:@Javfly33 Adya meditated for 7 years, Zen style, before his first awakening. I think you’re getting him confused with someone like Eckhart Tolle or Ramana.
@LfcCharlie4 Oh no, I'm not referring to his Enlightement or Awakening.
I mean mystical experiences, or at least mystical glimpses. He declared in one video he would get them when he was as young as when he was in primary school.
I can't recall what exactly he experienced but it looked it was kind of some high awareness state when he would be the "observer" for the whole day. With 8 years old. Yeah, that's why I think using an example of someone who has awakened through meditation as a point to prove Psychedelics are not neccesarary is naive. Maybe the one who awakened thorough meditation had a very particular brain chemistry than most people brains don't.
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4 minutes ago, Display_Name said:You don’t say. Comes with the territory of discussing bs like this in 3 paragraphs of a forum post.
Neither do I tbh. Shooting the shit?
It seemed that the usual narrative is to "debunk" the ability of Psychedelics to produce Enlightement.
The truth is no practice or substance is a warranty for producing Enlightement. There are only tools that can help more or less. For some minds meditation it will be all of takes. For others not even hundreds of trips will produce an Awakening. (Let's not even say a permanent non dual state)
Adyashanti did not spiritual practice before his first mystical experience. Should we infere from that that we should just drop the practices and just watch TV for a Enlightement to happen?.no. because adyashanti mind is different from your mind or mine
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4 minutes ago, Display_Name said:Well, the latter IS Frank,
Thats what makes him so special.
He’s the only one we know of that attained full buddhist Liberation (4 Paths model) AND has 5-MeO experience, so he dodges the common (and justified) “yes but he doesn’t know 5-MeO” criticism.
Adyashanti also recently had 5g shrooms and said it didn’t really change much. Getting him on 25g 5-MeO would be interesting.
In any case, it’s quite clear to me that Leo may have gone deeper on peaks, but Frank is far more liberated. In his words, quantum leaps. His 5-MeO trips give him more credibility than all other enlightened people imo.
Looks like you are over simplifying different people's minds.
Frank Yang might have a certain mind, very different from other type of mind, and so on.
Psychedelics usually cause changes outside the trips, just as any sober practice.
Awakenings and non dual state are usually temporary, no matter if they happen chemically or "naturally" induced.
Not sure what is being discussed here to be honest.
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38 minutes ago, Globalcollective said:. The best one tho was I once approached this girl and she rejected me and then I reproached her six months later and she didn't recognise me. It went very well and we went on a date and I asked her if anyone had ever approached her in the day like that before and she was like "once, the guy was super creepy not like you" lool.
Lol talk about rapid growth!
Thanks for sharing
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21 hours ago, Globalcollective said:@Javfly33 Yeah first two years was before I lived in a big city, once I finally moved took about two. Everyones journey will be different and everyone will have different sticking points but mine was the ability to escalate sexually. Once I learned it and also realised women love sex getting laid became super easy. Could even do crazy stuff like taking a girl home from meeting them 30 mins ago in a shop. Of course this isn't a great thing to be going around and doing but it illustrates the point its not hard and that it can be learned.
I should add as there seems to be this massive divid now between men and women on how this should be approached but we should just want to better our skills so we can attract better relationships and deepen our connects and get away from these toxic red and black pill ideologies.
A dumb question: Have you ever been "called out" by a girl that saw you approaching other girls in the same city you approached her in the past?
Is just a dumb fear I got since LOL and since you said you were in a small town i wonder if that happened to you. Probably its a dumb question.
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1 hour ago, vizual said:@Globalcollective Biological drives/needs have nothing to do with this, I don't think anyone has claimed that in this topic. The claim is that it is possible to have an unconditional type of love with a romantic partner that transcends social status, looks, money, fame, notoriety etc. Basically a love that transcends the material realm of being.
According to most people here this is a fairy tale and not possible. It's okay if you think that. My experience does not stroke with that belief.
@vizual I already agreed with Preety India that is totally possible.
What you guys miss is that to get there, you have to be able to:
- Approach
- Be assertive
- Have a decent amount of confidence
- Know how to socialize
Etc ...
For some people, this things are not given. They have to go out there to gain it / grow/ actualize it. And here is where dating advice and "rationalism" survival talk enters.
You guys are not "trascending" survival status or value by that romantic love. You are just building it on TOP of the basics. A lot of people DO NOT have the basics
That's the thing you are missing.
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24 minutes ago, Preety_India said:It's not just all about attraction as it is made to appear.
Its also about values
The love can last even if the attraction is faded.
Love is a virtue independent of attraction.
Of course much of dating is meant for best case survival but not everyone cares about survival all the time.
We love someone because we have developed a friendship with them for some time and that connection blossoms into love..
When the human brain produces strong chemicals of bonding with a person, their looks and external factors are thrown out the window and you just want that person and nothing else. It's like soul bonding.
All of this has nothing to do with dating strategies.
All those high value creation dating techniques are fine within an Orange stage paradigm
But at a certain point, you can transcend that for a soulmate.
Such people can have lifetime relationships and they are more likely to look at pickup as very unconscious because they won't like the survival factor of it.
It's like being versus shopping
What I'm talking about is being and loving and asking nothing. Except that you don't want to be hurt. The relationship exists within an ambit of rules to preserve its sanity.
Whereas all this stage orange dating is nothing but shopping.
I don't believe in this type of dating. It can be conscious for those who look at it from a survival point..
But deep down I don't believe this. I believe it's possible for two people to simply find each other and be together transcending the rules of survival.
That's true love
I'm going to put effort into conscious dating. Not this type of dating.
It looks very unconscious to me
@Preety_India I do think that that sort of deep connection you are talking about can happen, but I also think that for that to happen, the man and the women must have some survival dating attractive values on them.
If you are an awkward insecure low confident guy, I find it it hard that a minimum atractive woman will "trascend the rules of survival" for you because you happen to have his particular x tastes or values that she usually would look for for a long-term partner .
In the same way, I find it hard that I will be ever be atracted to a low value girl even if he's into a lot of rare niche things I might be into and has an amazing personality.
Will I want to be friends with her? Of course, yes.
Will I want her to be my sexual partner or have kids with her? Nope .
Why for women would be anything different? It's not. We both are interested.
And also note that you say "the love can last even if the attraction is faded". So you accept that attraction must be there. The attraction is the Pilar of the house. Then you can build that deep connection that you say is "real love". But you can't build "real love" withouth attraction in the first place. Because real love withouth attraction is just friendship. And everyone knows friendship is second order priority versus romantic partner.
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2 minutes ago, Preety_India said:What survival?
The interests or agenda that you mind has in order to choose one man or other.
It doesn´t matter if the guy was broke. By some reason, you found it atractive. The WHY of why you found it attractive, that´s survival. Not mere coincidence.
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9 hours ago, Preety_India said:This is exactly why I started this thread.
Totally agree
How come nobody on this thread understands unconditional love?
I have fallen in love with a broke guy. I cared for nothing. His money or status or anything.. So am I wrong??
I fell in love with him. I felt an intuitive deep connection with him. I wanted him and only him.. I never thought about his sexual value .
I transcended his looks or money or status only because I wanted to be with him for the rest of my life. There was no game or sexual value there.
It's sad how we are supposed to automatically believe that dating is this game like a contest to get high level contestant.
I don't care how someone on this thread judges me. This was the main purpose of this thread..
I believe in unconditional love. I don't believe in all this dating rubbish and pua player nonsense.
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You are not getting it.
All of those logical explanations are the self deception of the ego mind at play! Haha.
You want to practice unconditional love? Love the garbage container as you love your parents. That IS unconditional love.
If you prefer your parents to a garbage can I got news for you; you are biased.
In the same way, you are clearly biased regarding sexual or romantic partner. There's no such a thing as romantic love. Is just survival. But the ego mind plays very well the self deception card. It will take a long time probably to realize this .
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42 minutes ago, Globalcollective said:Yeah I had this problem I use to live in a small town like you and the nearest large city was about 1.5 hour drive. I planed trips say once every two weeks to go to the city and spend a day or night there to practice, do this until you are able to move. Its not ideal but you will slowly start picking it up over time and then when it comes time to move you can. Yeah I think driving two hours a lot would burn you out and prob not worth it so plan to slowly move to a bigger city. Also do every bit you can in your small town. Go on apps and try and get into small talk ect. When you are learning its about getting as much exposure to women as you can and slowly over time you become very comfortable around them. If you get a GF in this time learn how to get better at sex too that is a big one.
I think ultimately you will prob have to move to a bigger city, you don't have to live there premaritally just for for abit until you get better at it. If done right it shouldn't take more than a year or two.
Ok, thanks for the reply ?. By what I'm reading It will be a journey for sure ?.
1 o 2 years? You said it took you 4 years though.
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7 minutes ago, Globalcollective said:@Javfly33 ahah of course
Ok, so I have a question of logistics if you are kind to help
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If I want to start doing pick up (once Covid goes down a bit), what should I do? I live in a town of about 20.000 people. So here its not possible. 15 min in car from here is a town of about 45.000. Still I think not enough people. Then I have another one 40min from here which is 55.000 people. A little bit more but probably will burn it fast. And 1 hour from here is a city of over 2 million. And pretty good city for pick up I think (its a famous one some bootcamps are usually done here). But its 1 damn hour from home.
How should I structure my calendar so I dont burn myself but also I make progress? Will I have to drive daily 2 hours in order to make progress? So far moving is not an option but maybe next year will be. But ideally I don´t want to waste more time and start making progress already.
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Omg just help me please.
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There are definitely some PUAs that fall into that category.
I personally don't like or intend to use Pick up as a sort of manipulation. The main reason I want to master pick up is because I basically lack confidence and assertiveness around women, so at least for me, it's not an option to just find love when going out with friends, at work...etc. I probably need 1000 thousands interactions to be able to grow myself enough to be attractive to a girl I like. I already met several girls in the past which I loved to have a relationship with them but because I haven't grown as a men I couldn't have nothing with them. So for me pick up is not just about finding sex , pick up (or at least any kind of dating practice) is necessary for me to even have a relationship!
I think a lot of PUAs start like me and a lot of people don't realize that
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6 minutes ago, Moksha said:The best motivator for enlightenment is suffering.
Lol I entered this thread just to write this
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1 hour ago, universe said:That is pretty common. We don't enjoy fruits we didn't earn or invested in. Like if somebody handed you a trophy for being alive, you wouldn't enjoy it as much as a olympic gold medal that you worked you whole life for.
Sex is not a trophy though. You overthink things too much. Just enjoy the process, there is nothing else to do. If online dating isn't for you, that's ok. Not everyone likes it, I would even say most people don't enjoy it.
Sex, drugs, money. Those are not bad per se. But be mindful of how they work in distracting you.
@universe Thanks for the reply . Very wise.
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17 hours ago, DefinitelyNotARobot said:I have had similar experiences with the heart. Whenever I surrender to the present moment my awareness automatically goes to the heart. It also went to the belly once, but usually it's the heart.
It then stays there until it creates a shift in the sense of "I". It starts to feel like the heart (or the belly in that one instance) becomes the center of "I" and simultaneously the center of everything.
But I couldn't explain you the meaning of it as I myself don't know.
Interesting. I haven't had the experience from the heart yet. Thanks for sharing!
@DLH Very interesting! Just what I was looking for!
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50 minutes ago, Nahm said:Beautiful. It is wild. The truth is just too good to be true. Yet here we are. ?
@Nahm the 'bad' thing is that we might forget it (maybe you don't) very fast.
But, even that won't be 'bad'. If we couldn't forget it then love would be limited to not forget Truth ?
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Yesterday did some Lsd and again I went to my favorite therapist, which is God
My ego has struggled a lot all this past year's with the concept of "this is a not enough good/valid/worthwhile experience. Let me judge it and pursue another one."
With this attitude the ego not only prevents itself to feel that that experience is perfect and worthy to experience, but also it generates pain and suffering. It literally creates from nothing something that is impossible: unhappiness and suffering. It creates "sadness*, "dispair", "loneliness" etc everything. Because all of this emotions are actually perfect and love. You can say they actually don't exist because they are love BUT we give them those names because the ego has actually created then as something opposite from love . The ego experiences sadness as something that is not Love! Sadness for the ego means pain so that's why I say the ego has constructed all of these things. So it's better to call it sadness than just love.
Another consecuence of this attitude is that also you don't judge reality but you judge yourself too. Because the ego has a standard of not only how reality should be in order to be loved or worthwhile, but also himself too. So the ego invents a matrix where your life is not "an enough" life. Such impossible thing it's possible to create believe it or not.
God showed yesterday that each moment on my life has been perfect! Each moment has been love! Each moment has been God opening his arms to gladly receive that experience.
It truly felt like a taking a bath of healing when I listened to some songs that I used to listen in what my ego would categorize as "deep unhappiness moments of my life" and realized that those deep unhappiness moments have been actually perfect. I was just to blind in my ego to see it.
So that's it for today.
God showed me yesterday that actually everything has been perfect and my life has been Love each second. Each experience has been Yes or Yes love. Is un-avoidable. Since all experiences are perfect withouth the perspective of ego. Thanks God!
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Withouth the ego, Reality does not include suffering because it's not existent. However, ego seems to be a normal thing to exist in human beings.
So you must inquire the ego.Since it seems to be the "false topping" that has been added to what it is an already perfect and loving reality
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All I see is a great "trip" withouth taking anything ! How could you ask for more? ?
Honestly, man, reading some paragraphs of those made me a little sad (in the empathic way, I mean, not judging, like, at all).
Amazing how we end up believing stories from our thoughts and making ourselves such fictional hells when reality is always Ok... I can empathize.