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1 hour ago, coca said:@Javfly33 You should not be around anyone that has robbing in their psyche if you can afford a 40k watch.
I think its reasonable for anyone that can afford a 40k watch to feel a sense of status/accomplishment.
There needs to be incentives for creating value in the economy.
I mean walking in the street. It happens all the time here in Barcelona that some rich ass tourist with 100K on their wrist gets robbed.
1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:The message could be translated like: hey, I'm rotten inside, but look what a beautiful cover
yes 🤣 pretty much. And when the watch of 1Million comes out the watch of 500K will feel like a cheap crap.
58 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:That's true. It's low conciousness but it's normal, happens to almost everyone. In some moment of your life you can't avoid to show off like a turkey, it's pathetic, but almost impossible to avoid, I think all humans have done , but the best is that that stage of your life finish when you are still a teenager 😅
yeah I include myself in the herd. At first you feel like a cool kid but then Is something you realize it only puts you more ego maniac, less close to others. At some point have to let it go, although and its right time it was necessary to feel a little help from material validation, as long as one sees the trap soon enough
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1 hour ago, Thought Art said:@Javfly33 God, let my wealth and affluence be invisible and extremely stable.
thats probably the best way to go
40k or 200k either way wearing that on the wrist puts you in risk of robbery at least
13 minutes ago, Thought Art said:Value, is of course relative. I think a better life is to orient around high conscious principles of living the good life and looking rich, doesn't matter, isn't wealth... Why impress someone with money?
I think part of it is the status that comes with it. The feeling of showing off that you 'have made it'. If you contemplate it is very common in Hip Hop culture to show off diamonds, expensive clothes, cars, etc... Since most people that created this music 'came from the bottom', wearing or using certain expensive things feels like a great accomplishment, and also a big way to the ego of saying "Here I am. I am more than You. I am special".
This might seem as low conscious (and maybe it is), but if you come from being poor or marginalized, when you "make it' (economically speaking, at least), these things can provide you a strong sense of self-esteem/value/worthiness that was taken from you when you most need it (at the beginning phases of life where your psyche was most vulnerable).
There is also have to be taken into consideration certain things are just utterly beautiful and difficult to find in other place/in cheap alternatives. For example a lot of fashion hype beasts teenagers wear those cringe Gucci logo t shirts or Supreme bags, but outside those simple pieces that show a logo just to make money, there are other ones that are really unique and is kinda of impossible to find anywhere else.
I cringe when I see millionaires wearing Balmain logo tee shirts when there unique beautiful things to buy, but of course the don´t buy Balmain or Balenciaga because they have a passion for fashion they just want to show off that they have money in the most vulgar way...
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17 minutes ago, Thought Art said:40,000 dollars for what? a Bracelet
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Just kidding, I don't really understand spending that much for a watch, nor do I believe in the monetary value ascribed to a Rolex. But, I can understand people enjoy it.
40K? That's nothing. Richard Mille's are around 200K each. And Patek Philippe can go over that up to half a million.
At this point Rolex is not even anymore a sign of status. It tells you are a poor rich. You are there but not really there. A struggling rich.
Until you don´t wear a whole mortgage house on your wrist, your watch is not that impressing.
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14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:Wow, you're sad, baby. I'm so sorry I made you sad. I won't give you any more ideas and I'll tear down the imaginary brick wall that I created. I'll stop being a burden to you and your constructed stories so you can be at peace to build on it some more. I hope you get somewhere soon or get enlightened sometime soon because its getting to be quite a drag just hearing stories upon stories without the exciting endpoint. Will somebody get enlightened already please so I can add it to my list of life's beauties.
Don't worry, is my mistake. I shouldn´t have gifted to you more replies that the one you were entitled to for the day.
My mistake, when you give high quality food to peasants they bite the King's hand 🤴🏻
They are so used to the dirt they think you are trying to poison them when you give them highest food, what the King himself eats
The moral of the story is:
Never help again a peasant, let her get so tired of the dirt until one day she truly asks on his knees for help. In that moment she will be receptive and it will happen in a moment.
So unless next time you are coming on your knees, ain't helping you. 💅🏽
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10 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:I'm not saying there are two, I'm saying you're confusing being aware that you shouldn't beat your child or smoke cigs, or do drugs, or look before you cross the road with pure awareness
No, Awareness is the only intelligence that there is. There is not a self or a you inside a brain.
Awareness is all there is.
Why you keep making dualities?
QuoteThe same awareness that makes an alcoholic beat his wife is not awareness itself.
Awareness is aware of the husband beating his wife. The husband is conscious of his actions. I'm tired.
🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦 If you say so @Princess Arabia
Keep daydreaming that Awareness is some magical neutral universal thing that just is outside the world, sure.QuoteAwareness is aware of the husband beating his wife.
Oh god.... Please stop watching those videos of non dual assholes they are brainwashing you.
QuoteThe same awareness that makes an alcoholic beat his wife is not awareness itself.
@Princess Arabia So let me get this. The awareness of the beating is some rented awareness by Awareness ? 🤣 Or what? Can't you see you are not making sense here? You just don´t want to accept the fact that the magical perfect Awareness that Rupert Spira and this assholes have sold to you is the same one that beats the fuck out of wives every year.
But yes, keep dreaming, keep thinking like a 13 year old child. What the fuck do I care. Im the one now who is done with you. You dont want to grow up and accept responsibility. You are a child.
You think this spiritual work is a game, but is very real. Awareness is not something you outsource responsibility to. Is not a God. Is You, and you have to take responsibility for it. Not treat it like an outside entity which is Perfect and Neutral like an Allah. Is sad that you don´t see this, but I can not try it more, you are closed, brainwashed, and not mature to start actually comprehending. You have made an Ideology out of this work, that´s why you are like a wall now.
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3 hours ago, Ishanga said:P.S. I've never taken MDMA, so why can't ppl fight while on it, compared to Alcohol, I've of course use it and I've dealt with thousands of ppl that abused it while I did security work, its a very crazy substance that we have legalized, that most ppl cannot handle that causes tons of suffering, compared to ppl on weed, I've dealt with them too, and they are chill, laughing and hungry ppl that is it!!
It seems It artificially activates for some hours certain parts of the brain very similar than those that activate when we feel very compassionate and empthatic towards others, and at the same time lowers certain rumination self identity Thoughts
So basically It leaves you very aware of the Life around you, while at the same time you dont feel as important or as special, basically im a way you become a mother to the world.
Of course this is a simplification and mdma can affect in different ways to people but usually It is like that. Whereas alcohol you just dont care about anything lol
2 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:the consciousness that's fundamental and permeates through all of existence . I'm speaking of the Awareness that looks through everybody's eyes and is the one awareness that we all are.
You seem to Keep saying something like:
"oh, there is the awareness that creates the father that Beats his child yes, but There is this other awareness that is always neutral evercompassing the universe blablabla..."
NO! YOU DONT GET IT. THERE ARE NOT TWO AWARENESS.
The Awareness that gets entangled with the frustration of the Mind when you hit your child IS THE SAME ONE that gives life to whole universe and permeates me and you right now!!!
@Princess Arabia You are not getting that THERE IS ONLY ONE AWARENESS.
ONE ONE ONE!!!! There is not another awareness that is always there and neutral. No!!! The awareness that makes the father beat his child is the universal one.
There are not two! The same awareness that makes an alcoholic beat their wife is the same one that creates a Picasso painting, the same one that is being aware of your Thoughts and the same one that reads through this words and replies to you.
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1 hour ago, Princess Arabia said:I guess, I felt insulted like I'm trying to con my way into this stuff and that I'm trying to manipulate the convo and trying to maneuver my way into being right.
Damn, thats crazy that you took It that way. I expected you'd take it in a cool way like "dont be so smart 😎😏".
Personally It doesn't serve me to say "when I hit my child 9 years ago, there was Still awareness ". Is used as a kind of an excuse, and It takes out responsability which i think is one of the pillars of freedom
Imo you hit your child because you were unaware in that moment, Lost in the compulsion of the rage/frustration of the Mind mechanism. Saying " but there was Still awareness in the back" doesn't help you in avoiding It doing It again. Because you are not Accepting that truly awareness not there at that moment
Can you hit a child if you are aware? No, you have to be unaware to hit a child.
Thats why people can not fight on MDMA, while alcohol can make easier for domestic violence to happen. (Alcohol is one substance that lowers awareness as we all know It)
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10 minutes ago, Ishanga said:he is received like a rockstar 😂 crazy
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Yesterday I had a deeper peak into this stuff again while holding Bandhas.
Basically it works like this: Before the body asks for air, before that there must be created the thought, then the sensation, and then comes the feeling of 'needing to breath'.
- Create through an awareness belief that you are a body and you need to breath
- A thought is created instantly about needing to breath
- Fear comes attached to this thought (thought of 'need')
- Feeling or sensation in the whole body of intense need to breathing
- Finally breathing.
So basically What Sadhguru means when he says "One moment of unawareness in this Yogui and he will be gone"?
Basically it means that unawareness is the same as creating the belief that you need to breath. Once you create this belief it becomes real so you Create the need for the body to breath.
But if you stay completely Aware, then pure silence and you do not create any thought, then breathing is not necessary because you are not creating anything there.
You could stay years without breathing, as long as you don´t fall of this empty awareness, if you do you will create thoughts therefore thought of needing to breath therefore if you aren´t able to breath in that moment body will die. What you create becomes real, you create all rules with thoughts.
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8 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:I believe you're the one with the ego trip. You seem very sure of yourself and isn't leaving any room for err. I don't need your help. Neither do you need my help. No one needs to be helped in this regard. Only have a better understanding. Your reply here shows me you are not even the one to make me understand anything as you're not even addressing what I've said only trying to show how right you are. That's why you thought I was doing the same. I will leave this right here and let you ruminate a bit and maybe come to see how awareness is untouched and unbothered by this whole conversation and you're right its not separate but it isn't identified only the contents are and awareness is also aware of that.
Im not in any ego trip, but If im trying to help you and your reply to me almost like you were angry then obviously I play my Game too. (I didnt expected for you to take the 'Nice try' phrase of my message in a bad way, I Thought It was just funny)
My view on Awareness is what It is. That It Awareness is always in the Now that And It fluctuates in a long spectrum between identification and non-identification.
So I just have to be honest in how It works in my experience, if in yours works all the time as non-identification,then great for you, then is you in that case who is the Guru 😜
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1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:This is where I believe you're mistaken. Awareness doesn't identify with anything, the egoic mind does. Awareness is that which is aware of the false identification. The feeling of being the thoughts, of being the mind belongs to no one and the egoic structure falsely identifies with this. They are just feelings and thoughts without an actual person attached, but the person thinks its the thinker and doer. Awareness, being your true nature is aware of these attachments. It is aware of the misidentification. It is not a thing that can tell the egoic mind to stop being misidentified as the egoic mind and false identification really doesn't exist and is only an appearance within awareness.
You are allowed one reply of the Guru for day. Sorry I will reply and help you tomorrow sweetheart.
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16 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:Reincarnation intuitively seems very possible, I feel that life is a path to learn, but that's true? Maybe all mystics had this kind of feeling and they accepted that reincarnation is a logical possibility. In other hand many said that they remember past lifes, but is that true? Maybe. I think it's a possibility quite possible
@Breakingthewall @Someone here I think the key here shouldn't be whether reeincarnation exists or not but whether in what ways our life is a replication of someone else's acts
Because clearly, in a way, reality is reincarnating. Yesterday more than 300.000 babies were born. There is the proof, that Reality is recycling itself. Without new babies, without new life happening, even if reincarnation exist you would not have a body to reincarnate into.
I see interesting in observing the following: When you are having sex with a woman what is that you are doing? In a way, You are doing an act based on a memory imprint on the system, on a certain volition, this imprint tells you, feel attraction towards that woman, and not towards a dog.
So the process of creation comes with a certain software, so it can replicate itself. Because the creation wants to survive, so it makes you horny, so you can have sex and reality can keep replicating.
So there is something clear: We don´t exactly know if you had past lifes or if you will have future lives, but is clear there are certain acts in reality that allow reality to keep replicating itself.
So even if this is your last life for you, you are collaborating with the software that makes the replication possible. Whether it will be you or not, we don´t know it. But some parts of Reality will have to give life to those 300.000 babies bodies.
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9 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:"If awareness was really there, you wouldn't have identified with the mind in the first place". What's noticing you have identified with the mind?..... AWARENESS..... YOU CANT ESCAPE WHO YOU ARE.
In that phrase, With you I already mean awareness itself, not the person.
Awareness can identify itself with a limited identity or not. When it identifies itself, it becomes the thing which it identifies itself with, thats why the feeling of being the thoughts, of being the mind.
That's it. You lost yourself in that moment. There is not a second awareness in the backstage looking out for you if you identify with the mind. ( Which is what it seems you are telling me here: "There is always awareness being aware of X" ) Nope! If you make the choice of losing yourself in identification you made the choice.
If you choose mind over You, that´s your mistake. Don't try to protect your mistakes with a second invented awareness looking always for you, heheheh. Nice try 😂 @Princess Arabia
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26 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:Duh! What do you think is aware of that empty mind A. W. A. R. E. N. E. S. S.
@Princess Arabia It depends.
Awareness is always there, but Awareness lost in identification, creates the appearance or feeling that awareness is not there, and only the mind is there (ego-thought, creation of "I")
When there is identification with mind, you apparently become the thought. This process of identification, we call it unawareness, or lack of awareness.
Why? Because if Awareness was really there, you wouldn´t have identified with the mind in the first place.
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@Someone here That is correct. Body dissolves and becomes part of the earth.
What reincarnates is reality itself.
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On 12/6/2024 at 5:58 PM, Breakingthewall said:Being with totally empty mind is experience. A cat in the sofa has empty mind and it's an experience, and it's not enlightened, it can't be open to the absolute because it doesn't want to see and to open. It want to be the experience and be happy being a cat, nothing else.
Exactly. We really need to start diferenciating between awareness and just empty mind. Just because mind is empty doesn't necessarily mean awareness is there. An awareness can be there even with an active mind.
You could drink a bottle of vodka and have a peaceful empty mind. Does that mean enlightment? No, in fact you are even further from enlightment than sober, you are less conscious, less emphatic, less aware of reality. But you have empty mind, at least you are not suffering. But you are not alive either.
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18 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:Yes but how to go deep enough to understand what is that process that is happening and where it leads, what are the mechanics of the cosmos.
Not exactly the cosmos, in the sense that what will happen in 5000 years, but in the sense you understand the relationship between yourself and physical reality.
For example the controversial video of Sadhguru saying a Yogui being able to breath for years buried under the soil.
That still would be relative knowing about the mechanics of Breathing and Body. Getting to a level of Awareness where you stop the process of time in the body. Still relative, just galaxies of deepness compared to academic understanding.
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Now that you talk about Hinduism: Something interesting in that lineage is that Shiva (the masculine) is the destructor and Shakti (the femenine) is the creator. Shakti (the femenine) tempts Shiva with his dance, and in this moment Shiva sacrifices its own emptiness and no-movement, towards going to do an action (go towards Shakti). In this movement, Shiva creates karma (the act of going towards a woman is a certain volition, isn´t it? We men know it very well)
So that women are a great distraction for men in spirituality is not a coincidence. The mere desire and craving of men for female Beauty, is one of the main acts you are entangled here, Shakti will keep tempting you, and you will keep yourself in the chains of this karmic dance.
Notice what is the driving force that makes a man go out at night to pick up girls, or go to the gym to lift weights and appear muscular, these is not a driving force that liberates you, this is a driving force that entangles you.
In an opposite way, when you meditate (or a similar spiritual practice) you stop creating karma. Because there is no tendency there, there is no volition.
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6 hours ago, Someone here said:How is swimming in a pool of cow shit not Love ? Isn't Love supposed to be another word for god or the absolute or everything that is?
No I don´t mean that, I mean that you as existence are you experiencing/being/feeling Love or not.
That´s all that matters, whether you want to call a cow shit love is kinda of meaningless. You could just call a cow shit a cow shit but take a bunch of Mdma and feel Love (I have never tried it but I've heard it feels like that) and you would be in love.
And you could call a cow shit Love, Brahman, or God, but internally feel depressed, and...well, you tell me, what does it serve you that the cow shit is Love? The point is are you Being Love or are you being thoughts/duality, etc?
The only reason you feel Love when your gf gives you head, and not when you eat a cow shit, is because you needed to create dualities in the dream in order to make your human form survive.
So for survival, you sacrifice love.
So now you have to develop a mechanism, an internal mechanism to go beyond the dualities, the conditions. Because with conditions you will never know love.
3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:How could be you without form?
In how I see it, in a way, I am already without form. However there is a tendency to remain or appear as a form.
QuoteYou mean being the absolute, then never happen, just existing. But then there wouldn't time, just absolute existence. For ever?
I'm not saying existence would disappear. I mean the ability or tendency of holding to a form.
In the same way you can lose the skill of driving a car if you hurt your brain in some areas. Some brain damage can be forever.
QuoteIf now there is a límited form, the only possible deduction is that always would be a limited form, because if it stops being, then you will be the absolute for ever, and it's not the case because you are a limited form. Can't be for ever eternity after next month, then it's not eternity, has a beginning, then has an end
I think we agree that existence is too complex to understand it with our limited minds and lineal language. So I'm definetely not saying that I know how is it possible, but I'd say it is.
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6 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:Do you mean after death? Is it possible to know such thing? I'm open to the possibility that it's impossible to know anything
I think it is possible. Because it is still relative knowing, this would be the science of how the mechanics of the existence itself works.
Is not knowledge about you, is about certain processes within yourself.
Like for example we can now how differently water and alcohol affects the body. That would be knowing, but of course is relative, is just mechanics of the reality, is not really about you/absolute.
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1 hour ago, Kuba Powiertowski said:Amazing that you are sure of that.
No comments.
If you lose your mind (not metaphorically, but literally), how you could ever want anything? At that point you are gone.
If you have become a part of existence itself, you are completely gone. There is no possibility of returning from there.
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2 hours ago, Someone here said:Well if that's the case..then why make dozens of threads about cessation..mahasmadhi..non existence..ending the cycle of reincarnation etc ?
When I created the topic about mahasamadhi or ultimate mukti I was not talking about disappearing as being destroyed, but as a losing the anchor to a limited form.
Which, in a way, it is being destroyed, because all we know as egos is limited forms and anchors.
But anyways, ultimate goal is complete bliss, which means not taking more limited forms.
QuoteIf you feel happy just by existing then this is good. This a sign of enlightenment. But i don't believe you're "there "yet .
For sure, I´m not there yet at all. There is not stability still, There is a lot of distractions and going back and forth. You could say Im prolonging the inevitable, but is also true as an ego I don´t have a choice or control in the timings.
QuoteI've followed your posts over the years ...you improved..but you still believe the true nature is nothingness and not both nothingness and everythingness ..which oddly enough you seem to contradict once again with this post. So what's the deal jav?
nothingness seems negative and 'small', thats why maybe seems contradictory to 'everythingness'.
My main point is that Reality is real, is awareness and is alive. And that finite reality or identification with form is a delusion.
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@decentralized Maybe some basic Hatha Yoga would help for stability and balance, which is what seems is lacking for you.
The problem is see is not with the kundalini, but that your system lacks the preparatory steps to handle that kind of energy.
As is with everything a great supply of energy can fry your laptop or provide stable charge depending on the foundations of the electricity circuit. So you have to work on your foundations now, make your body a stable rock.
It wouldnt hurt you to learn to sit in ardha siddhasana. If you Only can master this one you could temporarily block what you dont want as long as you are home and can sit like that.
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Dont hold any mudras that you dont know because you will manipulate things in your energy system in ways you do not understand.
Once you Catch Yourself doing a mudra stop it inmmediately.
The best way to get Yourself out of this rut probably is regular exercise, be outside, go to events, sign to a running club, whatever, meet people. Lower your state of consciousness consciously (ironically), because is clear a door has been opened for you that your system was not ready.
The plan is easy; behave like a normie and do normie chimp stuff as Leo would say. Maybe you can even go party a bit and drink a beer or two and smoke a cig. Chill. You Will go back to those perceptions when you are ready. Not like this. The way is happening is not the right way.
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exactly